[Dancehall]

For a pop star it's more about presence. It's about being captivating with whatever talent(s) you have.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Ressti

Musicianship has nothing to do with picking a hit song. Prince has musicianship. Beyoncé has musicianship. Mariah Carey has musicianship. Rihanna does not.

But she's an interesting person, she has some nice songs and sometimes she delivers a decent performance, so I get it.

I'm sorry but when have I singled out any artist? Why are you trying to start a stanwar?

And please define that musicianship you speak of. I see you've mentioned Prince, Mariah and Beyonce, but I can't seen to discern any pattern in those three examples

[Alexis Neiers]

singing, how else would someone get a record deal?

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

singing, how else would someone get a record deal?

Good question. Let us ask some record labels. (won't name any names)

[Mariano]

Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy

um, but having a good ear for music IS a talent and is necessary for success. What are the point in good vocals if the music you're singing isn't good?

omfg How do you decide whether music is good or bad when it is subjective ?

There is nothing hard in listening to 10 demos and picking the most single worthy one Let's not.. And most real writers, don't write a song to be a hit. They write a song to be a piece of art. I really can't get how can someone sit and write a song to be a hit.. like But of course these people exists .. I mean all Katy hits, Riri's hits ...

[EnigmaPopstar]

Singing and Writing.
"An ear for good music" doesnt even exist.

[Mariano]

Originally posted by Dancehall Queen

For a pop star it's more about presence. It's about being captivating with whatever talent(s) you have.

That makes a lot of sense

[Lucyyyyyyyyy]

Originally posted by Mariano

omfg How do you decide whether music is good or bad when it is subjective ?

There is nothing hard in listening to 10 demos and picking the most single worthy one Let's not.. And most real writers, don't write a song to be a hit. They write a song to be a piece of art. I really can't get how can someone sit and write a song to be a hit.. like But of course these people exists .. I mean all Katy hits, Riri's hits ...

You just answered your own question. People like Katy and Rihanna are successful single sellers because they always play it safe and they know what the general public like

[Nhật Thực]

the GP is demanding more and more from an artist over time

nowadays we're not interested in the puppets like boybands or girlgroups like we used to in 90s anymore

since music is getting more sophisticated , the voice is less important than the abilities to creat a great tune of an artist

[Mariano]

Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy

You just answered your own question. People like Katy and Rihanna are successful single sellers because they always play it safe and they know what the general public like

they know ? really..

[Lucyyyyyyyyy]

Originally posted by Mariano

they know ? really..

Yes?

[Cola.drinker]

Being marketable. If it can be called "talent"

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy

You just answered your own question. People like Katy and Rihanna are successful single sellers because they always play it safe and they know what the general public like

Russian roulette is the riskiest lead single by a pop girl.

[Alejandrawrrr]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

singing, how else would someone get a record deal?

My thoughts exactly










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[Lucyyyyyyyyy]

Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr

My thoughts exactly










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I don't know why people ever try and come for Britney's vocals. Have you listened to any of her live performances from the beginning of her career? It's pretty obvious there was a time she actually had a great voice.

[Aurora]

Songwriting and singing.

[Lucyyyyyyyyy]

Originally posted by rihannafan

Russian roulette is the riskiest lead single by a pop girl.

I wouldn't call it the riskiest, but it didn't sell as well her other singles, did it? Thanks for proving my point

[danxc33]

Singing, but writting/composing can be as important and Demi has it all

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy

I wouldn't call it the riskiest, but it didn't sell as well her other singles, did it? Thanks for proving my point

If you're saying that sales are a function of commercial potential then no **** sherlock. But Russian roulette was a global hit and it went top 10 in most countries in the world.

[MSTI]

For me it's singing and dancing.