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Discussion: Are Singles More Important to an Artist's Legacy?
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Anyone can get a number one single, getting people to buy an actual album is much harder. Carly rae jepson can sell singles, soulja boy can sell singles, PSY can sell singles.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Ri_Ri_Rock
Yes without successful singles you can't sell album.
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Bey and Lana say hi!!!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Kula
albums, impact>>>>>>>>>>
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I agree. Now with the exception of 21 can you(or anyone unbiasedly) name albums from the current pop girls that will be remembered years from now . . . .
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I think most people remember artists by songs they heard, and not by albums. Especially nowadays, where album sales are the pits and singles are probably the most important they've ever been.
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
RR sold less than 1 million copies...  Is that a "big hit nowadays'. And the 2 yr promo campaign for 4 kinda defeats the whole "selling without hits" because she's doing enough promo to excuse that. |
Why are you saying your fave's album sold 1M while it sold 3M. Why, is Wikipedia wrong and did RR really sold only 1M?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Anyone can get a number one single, getting people to buy an actual album is much harder. Carly rae jepson can sell singles, soulja boy can sell singles, PSY can sell singles.
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CRJ is the perfect example. CMM had impact but she can't sell albums, so she doesn't have legacy. Her HITSONG has legacy, not the artist herself
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Anyone can get a number one single, getting people to buy an actual album is much harder. Carly rae jepson can sell singles, soulja boy can sell singles, PSY can sell singles.
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That's a very ignorant and bitter comment to make.
It's extremely foolish to look at others achievements and say "Anyone Can Do That..." If ANYONE can do it, why isn't EVERYONE doing it.
Lord knows some are trying...
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
I agree. Now with the exception of 21 can you(or anyone unbiasedly) name albums from the current pop girls that will be remembered years from now . . . .
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by SupahBass05
What album besides the monstrous 21 has had any impact in the last few years?
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Born This Way did.
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Singles are obviously a big part of a legacy, every legend has at least one stand-out track that's proved to withstand the tests of time. Whitney with IWALY, Celine with MHWGO, Madonna with LAV, MJ with BJ etc. There's no denying that having those huge songs will help cement your name in history, every artists has to have that one song that automatically comes to mind when you mention them.
However, you can't build a legacy off of singles alone. Especially when most (or in the case of Rihanna, all) are forgettable and interchangeable. No artist should want to be remembered as "that girl with that song" and that's the direction some of these girls are going into. Albums are a HUGE part of creating a legacy. An album takes the listener through a journey and gives them something that will truly stick with them. It's not something they bop to at the clubs when they are drunk, it has a lot more value to it. The fact that 4 was one of the best physically selling albums of the year just goes to show that people are still thirsty for that journey. They recognize the name and love the music.
Also, you're acting like Bey & Gaga haven't had their fair share of amazing single success, which just isn't true. They have both had iconic WW smashes that have become iconic in of themselves. Rih has yet to release a single that's surpassed the impact SL and CIL had. Katy has yet (although this is probs arguable) to release a single that's surpassed Poker Face. 
When an artist has created such an iconic, massive name for themselves like Beyonce, Mariah, Whitney etc. they don't NEED to worry about creating generic dance hits to gain attention. They know that their album will be able to sell because of the huge fanbase and general praise they have received throughout the years. They sell because their music is good, not because their lead single was forced down our throats.
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Anyone can get a number one single, getting people to buy an actual album is much harder. Carly rae jepson can sell singles, soulja boy can sell singles, PSY can sell singles.
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They are relevant, but no one takes them seriously. Their fan bases are almost non-existent.
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Originally posted by Beyy
Why are you saying your fave's album sold 1M while it sold 3M. Why, is Wikipedia wrong and did RR really sold only 1M?
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When you said "RR" I thought you were referring to "Russian Roulette" and not "Rated R" .My bad..
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Wellllllll,
Bey is known for her albums
Rih is known for her singles.
that's that. lol.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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but, i suppose both are important.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
That's a very ignorant and bitter comment to make.
It's extremely foolish to look at others achievements and say "Anyone Can Do That..." If ANYONE can do it, why isn't EVERYONE doing it.
Lord knows some are trying...
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Because some artists priority is not to get a song to shoot to number one all the time. They are satisfied with using singles to promote their albums, not release singles for the sole purpose of shooting to number one.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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The album sales are where the money is, for an artist and for a label. Ask every artist what thery would like to have: a smash hit single or two or a multiplatinum album and I am sure, no artist would tell you that they'd choose the single(s)
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by posh
Singles are obviously a big part of a legacy, every legend has at least one stand-out track that's proved to withstand the tests of time. Whitney with IWALY, Celine with MHWGO, Madonna with LAV, MJ with BJ etc. There's no denying that having those huge songs will help cement your name in history, every artists has to have that one song that automatically comes to mind when you mention them.
However, you can't build a legacy off of singles alone. Especially when most (or in the case of Rihanna, all) are forgettable and interchangeable. No artist should want to be remembered as "that girl with that song" and that's the direction some of these girls are going into. Albums are a HUGE part of creating a legacy. An album takes the listener through a journey and gives them something that will truly stick with them. It's not something they bop to at the clubs when they are drunk, it has a lot more value to it. The fact that 4 was one of the best physically selling albums of the year just goes to show that people are still thirsty for that journey. They recognize the name and love the music.
Also, you're acting like Bey & Gaga haven't had their fair share of amazing single success, which just isn't true. They have both had iconic WW smashes that have become iconic in of themselves. Rih has yet to release a single that's surpassed the impact SL and CIL had. Katy has yet (although this is probs arguable) to release a single that's surpassed Poker Face.
When an artist has created such an iconic, massive name for themselves like Beyonce, Mariah, Whitney etc. they don't NEED to worry about creating generic dance hits to gain attention. They know that their album will be able to sell because of the huge fanbase and general praise they have received throughout the years. They sell because their music is good, not because their lead single was forced down our throats. |
True
Some girls haven't created this yet and will never because they're already seen as the stereotype singles artist.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by posh
Singles are obviously a big part of a legacy, every legend has at least one stand-out track that's proved to withstand the tests of time. Whitney with IWALY, Celine with MHWGO, Madonna with LAV, MJ with BJ etc. There's no denying that having those huge songs will help cement your name in history, every artists has to have that one song that automatically comes to mind when you mention them.
However, you can't build a legacy off of singles alone. Especially when most (or in the case of Rihanna, all) are forgettable and interchangeable. No artist should want to be remembered as "that girl with that song" and that's the direction some of these girls are going into. Albums are a HUGE part of creating a legacy. An album takes the listener through a journey and gives them something that will truly stick with them. It's not something they bop to at the clubs when they are drunk, it has a lot more value to it. The fact that 4 was one of the best physically selling albums of the year just goes to show that people are still thirsty for that journey. They recognize the name and love the music.
Also, you're acting like Bey & Gaga haven't had their fair share of amazing single success, which just isn't true. They have both had iconic WW smashes that have become iconic in of themselves. Rih has yet to release a single that's surpassed the impact SL and CIL had. Katy has yet (although this is probs arguable) to release a single that's surpassed Poker Face.
When an artist has created such an iconic, massive name for themselves like Beyonce, Mariah, Whitney etc. they don't NEED to worry about creating generic dance hits to gain attention. They know that their album will be able to sell because of the huge fanbase and general praise they have received throughout the years. They sell because their music is good, not because their lead single was forced down our throats. |
*coughs* Umbrella *coughs* WFL *coughs* Diamonds *coughs* 
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Member Since: 2/24/2012
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For pop artists, most definitely.
Like people can name some of Mariah's biggest hits, but not likely her albums.
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
I agree. Now with the exception of 21 can you(or anyone unbiasedly) name albums from the current pop girls that will be remembered years from now . . . .
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Pink Friday.
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