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Chart Listings: Hot 100 Formula Finally Revealed
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So radio & sales are weighted the same ? Interesting .
Hate this streaming rule.
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ATRL Contributor
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I'll email this to Gaga. I wouldn't want her missing out.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Download Sales and any available physical sales (divide by 12)
Airplay (divide HOH BDS format actual audience impressions for Chart Reporters by 7,500) OR divide number found in Encore by 75 since that number is already divided by 100
On-Demand/Tethered Streaming (divide by 150)
Radio Streaming (divide by 300)
Club Play (divide points by 1.5)
With this formula,
1 Download = 1,000 Audience impressions = 25 radio streams = 12.5 on-demand/tethered streams
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Something is not right here:
100,000 downloads / 12 = 8,333
62.5M AI / 7500 = 8,333
1.25 million ODS / 150 = 8,333
which mean
100,000 downloads = 62,500,000 airplay = 1,250,000 On-demand stream
1 download = 625 Audience impressions = 12.5 on-demand stream
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Can someone show me an example of this formula?
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streaming
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Member Since: 5/14/2011
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Finally
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So basically it's the same formula that was discussed long ago here:
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=285296
only difference is that in BB formula streaming is little less - 0,08 instead of 0,1
(d/1000) + [(a/1 million) x 1.6] + (s/12500) + (p/25000) = total points
where:
d = sales (downloads)
a = radio airplay
s = on demand streaming
p = passive streaming (numbers for what BB never reports in it's weekly HOT 100 topics)
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Member Since: 10/2/2011
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About time
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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so if sales and radio counts the same why someone said radio counts more ?
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Member Since: 12/1/2011
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
so if sales and radio counts the same why someone said radio counts more ?
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they; alot of us, were wrong
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ATRL Contributor
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ok this literally makes no sense to me it's a bunch of division why is there no addition at the least? i'm so confused
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by Ulrihs
So basically it's the same formula that was discussed long ago here:
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=285296
only difference is that in BB formula streaming is little less - 0,08 instead of 0,1
(d/1000) + [(a/1 million) x 1.6] + (s/12500) + (p/25000) = total points
where:
d = sales (downloads)
a = radio airplay
s = on demand streaming
p = passive streaming (numbers for what BB never reports in it's weekly HOT 100 topics)
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oh ok nevermind thank you
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Member Since: 12/15/2008
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So I did an example for this week: http://www.billboard.com/news/psy-ca...07966592.story
3rd week atop for "One More Night"
And I had:
Song: Radio Points + Streaming Points + Sales Points = Total Points
One More Night: 185.6 + 64.56 + 181 = 431.16
Gangnam Style: 73.6 + 63.92 + 294 = 431.52
Radio x 1,6
Sales x 1
Streaming x 0,08
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Originally posted by Ger-55
So I did an example for this week: http://www.billboard.com/news/psy-ca...07966592.story
3rd week atop for "One More Night"
And I had:
Song: Radio Points + Streaming Points + Sales Points = Total Points
One More Night: 185.6 + 64.56 + 181 = 431.16
Gangnam Style: 73.6 + 63.92 + 294 = 431.52
Radio x 1,6
Sales x 1
Streaming x 0,08
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Billboard use the 75% of that, right?
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ATRL Senior Member
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So basically, when everyone was complaining that AI count too much, it was just because of a low sales period?
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
So basically, when everyone was complaining that AI count too much, it was just because of a low sales period?
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Kinda.
Airplay IS weighted up (take the number and x1.625) but it's only to make up for the digital sales market explosion over the past few years. They want airplay to count just as much as sales, and for them to be weighted equally, they have to multiply the airplay numbers b/c sales are much higher now.
People here for the most part believe sales should be weighted much more than airplay and that's why they complain AI counts too much. But it doesn't count more than sales. They're equal on average.
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Member Since: 12/15/2008
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Originally posted by Jennifer
Kinda.
Airplay IS weighted up (take the number and x1.625) but it's only to make up for the digital sales market explosion over the past few years. They want airplay to count just as much as sales, and for them to be weighted equally, they have to multiply the airplay numbers b/c sales are much higher now.
People here for the most part believe sales should be weighted much more than airplay and that's why they complain AI counts too much. But it doesn't count more than sales. They're equal on average.
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But explain my case please, if you can
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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Billboard stated in that article that there were less than 300 points separating them, so virtually nothing.
One More Night:
116M / 7500 = 15,466.6667
181,000 / 12 = 15,083.3333
807,000/150 = 5,380
Radio Streaming is unknown
15,466 + 15,083 + 5,380 + ? = 35,923
Gangnam Style:
46M / 7500 = 6,133.333
294,000 / 12 = 24,500
799,000 / 150 = 5,326.6667
Radio Streaming is unknown
6,133 + 24,500 + 5,326 + ? = 35,960
One of the rare cases where Radio Streaming (passive streaming/free) made a difference. I wish Billboard would release numbers for that aspect as well but it probably doesn't make a difference most weeks. It did in this case, though. "One More Night" probably got 2,300-2,500 points from that whereas "Gangnam Style" probably only got 1700-1800.
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Member Since: 12/15/2008
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PSY just had to sell like 1k of copies that week, and that's it
So, Maroon 5's mega smash "One More Night" was for sure a "legal" #1? with no rules changes? Amazing :worahip2:
Well done Billboard, I think it's fair, really
Although yeah, radio shouldn't count that much since there have been some cases that
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