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Discussion: Is committing suicide selfish?
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Originally posted by Rigalo
One could say its selfish to call someone selfish for committing suicide
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Hmm maybe. But the thing is that alot of the times people who commit suicide don't think about how the death will affect their family and friends. People do not think clearly when they want to commit suicide because they don't look at the effect it will have everyone else.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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it stupid, selfish and cowardly... and its sad really too, that things can get so bad that one doesnt see any other option!!
its really complicated, so yeah, i guess it depends on what the situation is!!
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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I mean, in a way yes. It's also selfish to want to keep someone alive so you won't miss them if they want to die so bad.
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Member Since: 10/4/2011
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Very. While its tragic regardless of how you die. It's especially tragic knowing that your loved one ended their own life.
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I've never looked at it as being selfish tbh..
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Hmm maybe. But the thing is that alot of the times people who commit suicide don't think about how the death will affect their family and friends. People do not think clearly when they want to commit suicide because they don't look at the effect it will have everyone else.
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Exactly. Because being suicidal is a serious mental health disorder and people around the world still don't understand that is is a mental health disorder and something that can be very hard for people to take care of.
I can see why people in this thread think it's selfish, but come on. We don't need to label people with life threatening issues as "cowards" or "selfish" because in that way, we're totally numbing ourselves to their problems and what they've gone through.
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Originally posted by Hugamari
I mean, in a way yes. It's also selfish to want to keep someone alive so you won't miss them if they want to die so bad.
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That's sort of true but then we can say everything we "Want" is selfish which I do not think is true.
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Yes and no at the same time
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sucide is highly complicated but at its core is definitely selfish
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It is technically the only unselfish act possible. In the mind of many people who commit suicide they truly believe the world would be better off without their existance, so by killing themselves (the ultimate sacrifice) they are helping others and are in no way helping themselves since they will be dead.
I really don't think you can say it's selfish. Depression is all consuming and it is chemical. If someone kills themselves due to depression I don't think any sensible person would view it as selfish because the person had a chemical imbalance leading them to think that killing themselves was the only option.
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Member Since: 10/15/2011
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Hmm maybe. But the thing is that alot of the times people who commit suicide don't think about how the death will affect their family and friends. People do not think clearly when they want to commit suicide because they don't look at the effect it will have everyone else.
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Just because they are not thinking clearly doesn't mean they aren't thinking about the effects it will have... Generally suicide isn't something someone decides on a whim, it's something that they take a lot of consideration.
Here's a pretty interesting AMA by someone who interviewed people shortly after attempting suicide. They pretty much answer this exact question roughly half way down.
http://anyasq.com/41-i-interviewed-p...empted-suicide
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My dad commit suicide this past May. In my opinion, at the time it happened, I felt it was selfish. He killed himself exactly one week before my high school graduation. I had one week to get myself together and put on a show for graduation. A few months to prepare myself for college and leaving my mom at home alone. His suicide note was for the most part, terrible. Telling me I had a good heart but then telling me I should use some of my kindness at home. He did this to my sister as well. This was his way of getting the last word.
I mean, I understand why he killed himself. He was an alcoholic, he wasn't doing anything with his life, and he was depressed. There were just other ways to fix these problems, and he go through with them. His suicide did a lot of damage. I know this is a lot of rambling, and I apologize. I still don't even know how I feel about it. It's selfish in a sense of that suicide effects a lot of people, but it's also selfish to think of myself in the situation.
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Originally posted by stoopidjenna
Just because they are not thinking clearly doesn't mean they aren't thinking about the effects it will have... Generally suicide isn't something someone decides on a whim, it's something that they take a lot of consideration.
Here's a pretty interesting AMA by someone who interviewed people shortly after attempting suicide. They pretty much answer this exact question roughly half way down.
http://anyasq.com/41-i-interviewed-p...empted-suicide
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Sort of ambivalent on this matter :\. But this article also just noted that someone is suicidal believes that their loved ones doesn't love them while this isn't the case all the time. I guess its all situational in the end whether it is selfish or not.
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Originally posted by ePoise
My dad commit suicide this past May. In my opinion, at the time it happened, I felt it was selfish. He killed himself exactly one week before my high school graduation. I had one week to get myself together and put on a show for graduation. A few months to prepare myself for college and leaving my mom at home alone. His suicide note was for the most part, terrible. Telling me I had a good heart but then telling me I should use some of my kindness at home. He did this to my sister as well. This was his way of getting the last word.
I mean, I understand why he killed himself. He was an alcoholic, he wasn't doing anything with his life, and he was depressed. There were just other ways to fix these problems, and he go through with them. His suicide did a lot of damage. I know this is a lot of rambling, and I apologize. I still don't even know how I feel about it. It's selfish in a sense of that suicide effects a lot of people, but it's also selfish to think of myself in the situation.
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may he rest in peace, wish you and your family all the best
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I personally think it is. This might be a bit long but I've discussed this topic so many times with my family and friends, so I've heard many opinions about it.
Why is it selfish? Well, if you're a mother/father, by taking away your life means taking away one big part of life to your kids. Whoever has lost a parent knows how this feels, and especially if they don't die naturally but they do it themselves, and then kids live their whole life thinking: "I could've done something to help him/her."
And when people commit suicides because of lack of money... I'll never, ever get it. You're not the first person in the world to stay without money. People were in way worse situations and still kept themselves alive and their better days have come later. I hear many stories of women suicidal because their husband beats them. And they have a child. She kills herself and leaves her child alone with him. How brave is that? Just run away and ask for help. Call the police, your cousins, a friend, there MUST be someone out there.
Talking about kids' suicidal... well, mostly it's because of bullying. Kids can't stand being bullied and un-accepted so they think the only way out is suicide. I can tell you something, I've been through all that bullying hell both in my primary and high school, it lasted something less than a year but it was a total hell. I'd just listen to what people would be saying about me from behind and my eyes were full of tears and I was praying to God they stop. And being this shy and confidence-less as I am, I never had the courage to confront any of them. I did have friends who were with me but they took everything them guys said to me as a joke. I haven't. I've received laughter in the face, they'd laugh at everything I say, they'd tickle me and follow me all the way from school just to make fun of me. But guess what? I never thought about IT. Why? Because I have a beautiful and amazing family at home that means the world to me and who were always there for me but I kept this away from them. I escaped to my world, writing music, lyrics about how I feel and that helped me. I finally confronted everything and my life'd changed sooo much and now I'm quite friends with those guys who were sooo immature back at that time. I see kids can't stand that, even though some were in a tougher position, so they take away their life. By doing that they don't realize they're leaving their parents heartbroken forever, who will keep thinking the same... I could've done something to save him/her.
My point is: there is no reason to suicide. Even though it's hard to see and you think so, but there is always someone around you who will help you get through all those bad stuff. There is always a way out... Don't do it. Don't let others win. Show your teeth. Fight. Only fighters can win.
End of my "short" story...
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Originally posted by like2throw
Very. . It affects more people than the victim himself/herself.
The varying degrees of the selfishness however, depends on the situation at hand.
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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No it's not selfish, but at the same time it doesn't really make sense to take your own life.
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