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Poll: Which era was more sucessful? BTW or TD
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Born This Way
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Teenage Dream
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Originally posted by pika
Teenage Dream in every aspect. BTW may have sold more albums, but Teenage Dream's singles make up for it. And please, leave awards and 'cultural impact' out of this, because the OP is talking about which one was more SUCCESSFUL, not critical acclaim and what not. WW, Katy did better, and in the US she did better. A true digital queen.
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exactly
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Originally posted by Bathomet
TD ww single succes was far colossal according to MT receipts. But those for BTW are far more rough estimates than actual points.
California Gurls - 8.553.000
Teenage Dream - 5.869.000
Firework - 7.631.000
E.T. - 5.298.000
Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - 4.520.000
pls few million for TOTGA.
Born This Way - 8.500.000
Judas - 2.500.000
The Edge Of Glory - 4.500.000
You And I - 2.500.000
Marry The Night - 1.000.000
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Even though I don't think singles success should define an era, TD was more successful in this case. It's not so much that her singles "make up" for the album sales but the era single handedly put Katy on the map as a serious contender. I know she was successful with IKAG and HNC but the consistency this era really blew her name up.
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I voted Teenage Dream, but it's really difficult to say. BTW made IFPI worldwide year-end, something none of Katy's singles achieved, and probably outsold, on a WW scale, every single Katy has released this era; on the other hand, Katy has had multiple hits, while Gaga had only two real hits and two moderate hits. It's also true that songs like Teenage Dream, ET, Last Friday Night and The One That Got Away were pushed by remixes and saw 80% of their success in the USA. But Katy had more YouTube views, though Gaga had far more impressive album sales and WW dominance and her tour is gonna completely outgross Katy's. Katy got more VMAs, Gaga got more EMAs; they both got no Grammys, but Katy got more nominations. Gaga got amazing critical reception, Katy was panned. It's really close.
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Originally posted by Bathomet
Imo BTW was highly sucessful albums wide ww, moderate single sucess. Katy had moderate album sucess ww and hughly sucessfull single sucess ww. if I were to cimbine the two, I would say TD, cuz TD single sales make up a lot for for its lack of album success than BTW does for its moderate lack of single sucess.
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TD didn't really have huge single success WW, though. I mean she was successful, but the success of the singles on a WW scale certainly wasn't hugely greater than Gaga's.
I mean if you were to compare the two on average positions:
Born This Way - 21x#1, 5x#2, 2x#3, 1x#4, 1x#8 Average: 1.63
California Gurls - 10x#1, 4x#2, 4x#3, 2x#4, 3x#5, 1x#6, 2x#8, 1x#10, 1x#12, 1x#17 Average: 3.93
BTW > CG
Judas - 1x#1, 1x#2, 5x#3, 3x#4, 1x#5, 5x#6, 2x#7, 3x#8, 3x#10, 1x#12, 1x#23, 1x#24 Average: 7.11
Teenage Dream - 6x#1, 4x#2, 1x#4, 3x#5, 2x#6, 2x#8, 1x#9, 1x#12, 1x#13, 2x#14, 1x#15, 1x#19, 1x#21, 1x#22 Average: 7.44
Judas > TD
The Edge of Glory - 2x#1, 5x#2, 6x#3, 1x#4, 1x#5, 4x#6, 2x#7, 2x#8, 1x#10, 1x#14, 1x#19, 1x#36 Average: 6.33
Firework - 3x#1, 5x#2, 7x#3, 4x#4, 2x#5, 1x#7, 1x#8, 2x#14, 1x#15, 1x#18, 1x#46 Average: 6.50
TEOG > Firework
You and I - 1x#3, 2x#5, 1x#6, 2x#8, 1x#10, 1x#14, 2x#18, 2x#19, 1x#21, 1x#23, 1#x24, 1x#26, 2x#32, 1x#83, 1x#98, 2x#104 Average: 30.89
E.T. - 3x#1, 2x#3, 3x#5, 1x#7, 2x#9, 2x#10, 1x#12, 1x#13, 1x#14, 1x#15, 1x#24 Average: 8.17
E.T. > Y&I
Marry The Night - 1x#1, 2x#4, 1x#7, 1x#8, 1x#9, 2x#11, 1x#13, 1x#16, 1x#17, 2x#24, 1x#28, 1x#29, 1x#34, 1x#37, 1x#38, 1x#50, 1x#51, 1x#80 Average: 23.62
Last Friday Night - 4x#1, 1x#2, 1x#4, 3x#5, 4x#7, 2x#9, 1x#15, 1x#20, 2x#22, 1x#25, 1x#33, 1x#34, 1x#38, 1x#56 Average: 14.00
LFN > MTN
That, said, a lot of Gaga's hits were immediate impact then fell off the charts. Also this was just to illustrate that she hasn't been extortionately more successful in the singles department.
Also, much of Katy's WW singles success is based on her US numbers, which isn't entirely fair either when making a WW comparison.
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Teenage Dream, even though it sold less than BTW.
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Originally posted by Orsay
This question pains me to the core.
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Me too
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Teenage Dream katy became very famous past year because of her TD album
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TD of course. Don't see the debate here :/
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
TD didn't really have huge single success WW, though. I mean she was successful, but the success of the singles on a WW scale certainly wasn't hugely greater than Gaga's.
I mean if you were to compare the two on average positions:
Born This Way - 21x#1, 5x#2, 2x#3, 1x#4, 1x#8 Average: 1.63
California Gurls - 10x#1, 4x#2, 4x#3, 2x#4, 3x#5, 1x#6, 2x#8, 1x#10, 1x#12, 1x#17 Average: 3.93
BTW > CG
Judas - 1x#1, 1x#2, 5x#3, 3x#4, 1x#5, 5x#6, 2x#7, 3x#8, 3x#10, 1x#12, 1x#23, 1x#24 Average: 7.11
Teenage Dream - 6x#1, 4x#2, 1x#4, 3x#5, 2x#6, 2x#8, 1x#9, 1x#12, 1x#13, 2x#14, 1x#15, 1x#19, 1x#21, 1x#22 Average: 7.44
Judas > TD
The Edge of Glory - 2x#1, 5x#2, 6x#3, 1x#4, 1x#5, 4x#6, 2x#7, 2x#8, 1x#10, 1x#14, 1x#19, 1x#36 Average: 6.33
Firework - 3x#1, 5x#2, 7x#3, 4x#4, 2x#5, 1x#7, 1x#8, 2x#14, 1x#15, 1x#18, 1x#46 Average: 6.50
TEOG > Firework
You and I - 1x#3, 2x#5, 1x#6, 2x#8, 1x#10, 1x#14, 2x#18, 2x#19, 1x#21, 1x#23, 1#x24, 1x#26, 2x#32, 1x#83, 1x#98, 2x#104 Average: 30.89
E.T. - 3x#1, 2x#3, 3x#5, 1x#7, 2x#9, 2x#10, 1x#12, 1x#13, 1x#14, 1x#15, 1x#24 Average: 8.17
E.T. > Y&I
Marry The Night - 1x#1, 2x#4, 1x#7, 1x#8, 1x#9, 2x#11, 1x#13, 1x#16, 1x#17, 2x#24, 1x#28, 1x#29, 1x#34, 1x#37, 1x#38, 1x#50, 1x#51, 1x#80 Average: 23.62
Last Friday Night - 4x#1, 1x#2, 1x#4, 3x#5, 4x#7, 2x#9, 1x#15, 1x#20, 2x#22, 1x#25, 1x#33, 1x#34, 1x#38, 1x#56 Average: 14.00
LFN > MTN
That, said, a lot of Gaga's hits were immediate impact then fell off the charts. Also this was just to illustrate that she hasn't been extortionately more successful in the singles department.
Also, much of Katy's WW singles success is based on her US numbers, which isn't entirely fair either when making a WW comparison.
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well, i think you got your aNswer... peak mean almost nothing,while longevity means a lot to a song's success.. so definitely katy wins here. album wise,Gaga wins!!
and US is still a part of worldwide sales so i dont see why it isnt fair to compare it
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Originally posted by cheers09
well, i think you got your aNswer... peak mean almost nothing,while longevity means a lot to a song's success.. so definitely katy wins here. album wise,Gaga wins!!
and US is still a part of worldwide sales so i dont see why it isnt fair to compare it
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No, I get that. She was obviously more successful singles-wise. But, I don't think as much as people are making out.
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
No, I get that. She was obviously more successful singles-wise. But, I don't think as much as people are making out.
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California Gurls - 8.553.000
Teenage Dream - 5.869.000
Firework - 7.631.000
E.T. - 5.298.000
Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - 4.520.000
The One That Got Away - 3.000.000
Part Of Me - 1.500.000
= 36.371.000
Born This Way - 8.500.000
Judas - 2.500.000
The Edge Of Glory - 4.500.000
You And I - 2.500.000
Marry The Night - 1.000.000
= 19.000.000
TD sold 17.371.000 more singles than BTW that's a pretty massive difference IMO. And TD era isn't over yet.
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Originally posted by P!nkInside
California Gurls - 8.553.000
Teenage Dream - 5.869.000
Firework - 7.631.000
E.T. - 5.298.000
Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - 4.520.000
The One That Got Away - 3.000.000
Part Of Me - 1.500.000
= 36.371.000
Born This Way - 8.500.000
Judas - 2.500.000
The Edge Of Glory - 4.500.000
You And I - 2.500.000
Marry The Night - 1.000.000
= 19.000.000
TD sold 17.371.000 more singles than BTW that's a pretty massive difference IMO. And TD era isn't over yet.
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Those aren't lists of total sales, they are lists of points. The sales difference between the two is much closer than that.
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Originally posted by P!nkInside
California Gurls - 8.553.000
Teenage Dream - 5.869.000
Firework - 7.631.000
E.T. - 5.298.000
Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - 4.520.000
The One That Got Away - 3.000.000
Part Of Me - 1.500.000
= 36.371.000
Born This Way - 8.500.000
Judas - 2.500.000
The Edge Of Glory - 4.500.000
You And I - 2.500.000
Marry The Night - 1.000.000
= 19.000.000
TD sold 17.371.000 more singles than BTW that's a pretty massive difference IMO. And TD era isn't over yet.
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"Born This Way" (single) has outsold every single Katy has released this era. IFPI is an official source, your list based on Mediatraffic points or I don't know what else is laughable.
Anyway, we all know Katy's singles are much more successful than Gaga's.
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Teenage Dream. The singles were extremely powerful.
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Originally posted by pika
Teenage Dream in every aspect. BTW may have sold more albums, but Teenage Dream's singles make up for it. And please, leave awards and 'cultural impact' out of this, because the OP is talking about which one was more SUCCESSFUL, not critical acclaim and what not. WW, Katy did better, and in the US she did better. A true digital queen.
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how does singles >> albums?
and every aspects? BTW tour destroys every katy's tours combined so lets not with this biased opinion
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BTW sold more copies, but the overall "Teenage Dream" era has left a much larger impact on popular culture. It's a very memorable era and pushed Katy up from being a B-List popstar (of One of the Boys) to an A-Lister. Apart from the discounts and cheap remixes, it was otherwise flawless. The single choices were perfect. Most people know and love the songs, the videos were spot on and everything fared well on radio.
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Clearly TD was more successful.
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Those aren't lists of total sales, they are lists of points. The sales difference between the two is much closer than that.
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dont be delusional hun, TD single sales have a way way bigger gap than BTW singles and the album sales of katy arent lackluster to BTW album sales compared to the singles
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