[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by MusicTalker

I see your point. If you put this opening & compare it to TD, Loud, & TTT's opening, it's a great number. But compared to Pink Friday, the numbers are alarming.

I hope this isn't a sophomore slump for her.

She has plenty of hit singles on the album that will earn the album a Platinum or even multi-Platinum certification; the sales are not my main focus. My biggest worry is that she's going to alienate her core audience to such a degree this era that there will be a complete lack of support on their part come album #3. She needs to rope them back in throughout the Roman Reloaded era, and to do so, she's going to have to play her cards right. I doubt she will, though.

[MusicTalker]

Reported.

A thread with a logical point & argument = / = flamebait.

[IWasHere]

Originally posted by GRADUAT10N

You saw the Grammy performance, heard the pre-album release singles, etc. right?

+1. She did it to herself.

[Vertigo Stick]

Katy, Kesha, and Rihanna open with these kind of numbers. I don't see why Nicki can't either.

[collin]

Debut albums are always gonna sell a lot, though.
It's not like she's trying to out-do herself, just working off of it.
I think people are a little standoffish right now.
The pop half goes really hard into pop and the rap side goes hard into rap.
It doesn't really sit very nicely with fans, but I think it'll grow after they hear more stuff.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by collin

Debut albums are always gonna sell a lot, though.
It's not like she's trying to out-do herself, just working off of it.
I think people are a little standoffish right now.
The pop half goes really hard into pop and the rap side goes hard into rap.
It doesn't really sit very nicely with fans, but I think it'll grow after they hear more stuff.

[Flashing Lights]

Bad publicity, lackluster music and her urban fanbase (where the majority of the album sales for Pink Friday came from) turned their backs on her.

I think I covered all bases.

[Sparky Polastri]

Originally posted by collin

Debut albums are always gonna sell a lot, though.
It's not like she's trying to out-do herself, just working off of it.
I think people are a little standoffish right now.
The pop half goes really hard into pop and the rap side goes hard into rap.
It doesn't really sit very nicely with fans, but I think it'll grow after they hear more stuff.

Looking at some of the names in your sig, you should know better.

[collin]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

...?
Debut albums sell a lot for artists that have managed to build hype for themselves.
Ke$ha had a #1 debut. Gaga opened well, too. I think TF has sold more than BTW, I could be wrong.

[Dark Matter]

Originally posted by MusicTalker

Why do you personally think Roman Reloaded is opening with just a little more than half of what Pink Friday did?

1. The first album was released on Black Friday. First-week sales were obviously influenced by that. Regardless, that album had legs, and this album could very well do too.

2. She didn't pick an audience to promote to. Pop audiences were clearly here for her, but she didn't capitalise on it. She still hasn't properly promoted Starships, aside from American Idol and the NBA show. She should be on all the daytime and primetime shows (Ellen, GMA, DWTS, etc.) promoting to pop audiences, but she hasn't been doing it. Instead, she's been focused on doing radio tour and TV specials for urban audiences, and it's contradicted the pop strategy she had going.

3. Simply put, her urban fans have abandoned her because she's gone pop. It sucks, but at the same time, it could be the wake up call for Nicki to just focus on what works, and push that.

Just to be clear - regardless of sales, Pop Nicki > Urban Nicki

Nicki is an international star because of her pop music. She is about to become the face of Pepsi because of her pop music. She is in all the major press because they see her as a popstar. Now the promo she employs needs to reflect that.

The album potentially has very good legs - it just needs to have its marketing focused on pop audiences.

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by collin

...?
Debut albums sell a lot for artists that have managed to build hype for themselves.
Ke$ha had a #1 debut. Gaga opened well, too. I think TF has sold more than BTW, I could be wrong.

Debut albums don't usually sell fantastically, Gaga is the exception, not the rule.

[collin]

Originally posted by Sparky Polastri

Looking at some of the names in your sig, you should know better.

I can't at this irrelevant shade.
Having faves isn't about success.
Everyone is so negative about Nicki's sales.
Are we forgetting that she's basically dominating iTunes?

[collin]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Debut albums don't usually sell fantastically, Gaga is the exception, not the rule.

I didn't even build my point around Gaga, sis.
Artists that have enough star power will debut well. The end.

[fortheloveofmusic]

Originally posted by Division

1. The first album was released on Black Friday. First-week sales were obviously influenced by that. Regardless, that album had legs, and this album could very well do too.

2. She didn't pick an audience to promote to. Pop audiences were clearly here for her, but she didn't capitalise on it. She still hasn't properly promoted Starships, aside from American Idol and the NBA show. She should be on all the daytime and primetime shows (Ellen, GMA, DWTS, etc.) promoting to pop audiences, but she hasn't been doing it. Instead, she's been focused on doing radio tour and TV specials for urban audiences, and it's contradicted the pop strategy she had going.

3. Simply put, her urban fans have abandoned her because she's gone pop. It sucks, but at the same time, it could be the wake up call for Nicki to just focus on what works, and push that.

Just to be clear - regardless of sales, Pop Nicki > Urban Nicki

Nicki is an international star because of her pop music. She is about to become the face of Pepsi because of her pop music. She is in all the major press because they see her as a popstar. Now the promo she employs needs to reflect that.

The album potentially has very good legs - it just needs to have its marketing focused on pop audiences.

Urban my dam ass call a spade a dam spade. She is a RAPPER! There's no choosing sides lol

[Benzene]

I know she hates being called a sellout, but that's basically what happened here. Her core fanbase wasn't here for it.

Miss Cleo is on ATRL, and her name is DASLAYER.

[Sparky Polastri]

Originally posted by collin

I can't at this irrelevant shade.
Having faves isn't about success.
Everyone is so negative about Nicki's sales.
Are we forgetting that she's basically dominating iTunes?

It wasn't shade. You claimed that debut albums always sell a lot while more than one the people in your sig show otherwise. Debut albums don't always sell a lot.

[Amaru]

Originally posted by Benzene

I know she hates being called a sellout, but that's basically what happened here. Her core fanbase wasn't here for it.

Miss Cleo is on ATRL, and her name is DASLAYER.

[Guy]

She flopped on her core. Wanna be a popstar? Sell like a popstar. Look at this as a lesson learned, Onika

[iamthelaw]

Originally posted by Benzene

I know she hates being called a sellout, but that's basically what happened here. Her core fanbase wasn't here for it.

Miss Cleo is on ATRL, and her name is DASLAYER.

[collin]

Originally posted by Sparky Polastri

It wasn't shade. You claimed that debut albums always sell a lot while more than one the people in your sig show otherwise. Debut albums don't always sell a lot.

You're missing the point.
I said that people who have a lot of hype and are well-liked will debut well.
Like Ke$ha, Gaga, Nicki.
I'm not referring to my faves, many of who are very disconnected to popular culture.
Got it? Okay, let's be done now.