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Discussion: "Manufactured" Artists
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I honestly think Katy Perry doesn't have an OUNCE of originality in her entire body. It's her looks and her producers that basically do all the work.
Report this if you must, but it's my OPINION. I recognize that she does write. But it's not particularly amazing. There are plenty of people in the world with better vocals and capability, Katy just has that "look" and they built a singer around that. Same with Jessica Simpson tbh since she doesn't appear able to do anything...
I suppose Bey was towards the beginning of her career, but she just achieved such a level of success that now she does her own thing, and it's truly BEYONCE. She acquired fame through her intense vocals, striking looks, and massive amounts of star quality which has to stem from SOME actual talent. Therefor she is NOT completely manufactured.
Britney is an enigma. We can't deny the obvious lack of powerhouse vocals, but her voice is very unique and she was an incredible dancer when she first started out. She's a capable pianist and a competent song writer. We don't really KNOW much else since we have no evidence, but people seem to say she's rather in control of her career so I'll leave that one alone.
Gaga, yes. But not in a bad way. She wanted to be this kind of classic rock n' roll chick before Rob Fusari told her to hike up her skirt and use a drum machine, so she did. She has some kind of incredible IT factor, on top of striking looks, fantastic song writing skills, and great vocals. She was a ready-born star, and her label just pushed her to make her ideas bigger and bolder, and that became her schtick. SUPPORT OF THE GAY COMMUNITY WAS ABSOLUTELY HER OWN IDEA. No record label in 2008 would willingly tell their new up-and-comer to back the LGBT community, really. The Madonna similarities emerged later, AFTER that. Nobody compared Just Dance to Madonna unless they were deranged, which is my opinion, but I will leave it at that.
And Christina just kind of fell off the map cause she was manufactured in the wrong way.
There's no such thing as a COMPLETELY non-manufactured mainstream artist, they're not just BORN with a niche in pop music. Someone has to help them along the way, be that the label or their peers. Where they go from there is the defining element.
Case closed. ![coffee2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/b80efe23.gif)
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some women are made.
and some are created, for a special purpose.
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Does being "Manufactured" equal success?
Seems to be the case with most big pop stars right now.
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Between Bey and Brit it'd definitely be Brit just off her not looking or sounding interested in some of her material
But I think manufactured artists are those that seem like they just don't connect to any of their material, or when they are asked about their inspiration for a song and they give a generic answer
I remember Katy said some **** about recording firework so that others can release that firework inside of them, like wtf lol Kelly Rowland said the same thing about motivation and commander smh
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
I honestly think Katy Perry doesn't have an OUNCE of originality in her entire body. It's her looks and her producers that basically do all the work.
Report this if you must, but it's my OPINION. I recognize that she does write. But it's not particularly amazing. There are plenty of people in the world with better vocals and capability, Katy just has that "look" and they built a singer around that. Same with Jessica Simpson tbh since she doesn't appear able to do anything...
I suppose Bey was towards the beginning of her career, but she just achieved such a level of success that now she does her own thing, and it's truly BEYONCE. She acquired fame through her intense vocals, striking looks, and massive amounts of star quality which has to stem from SOME actual talent. Therefor she is NOT completely manufactured.
Britney is an enigma. We can't deny the obvious lack of powerhouse vocals, but her voice is very unique and she was an incredible dancer when she first started out. She's a capable pianist and a competent song writer. We don't really KNOW much else since we have no evidence, but people seem to say she's rather in control of her career so I'll leave that one alone.
Gaga, yes. But not in a bad way. She wanted to be this kind of classic rock n' roll chick before Rob Fusari told her to hike up her skirt and use a drum machine, so she did. She has some kind of incredible IT factor, on top of striking looks, fantastic song writing skills, and great vocals. She was a ready-born star, and her label just pushed her to make her ideas bigger and bolder, and that became her schtick. SUPPORT OF THE GAY COMMUNITY WAS ABSOLUTELY HER OWN IDEA. No record label in 2008 would willingly tell their new up-and-comer to back the LGBT community, really. The Madonna similarities emerged later, AFTER that. Nobody compared Just Dance to Madonna unless they were deranged, which is my opinion, but I will leave it at that.
And Christina just kind of fell off the map cause she was manufactured in the wrong way.
There's no such thing as a COMPLETELY non-manufactured mainstream artist, they're not just BORN with a niche in pop music. Someone has to help them along the way, be that the label or their peers. Where they go from there is the defining element.
Case closed. ![coffee2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/b80efe23.gif)
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I disagree. Adele is popular fad right now. Would you say she is manufactured?
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Yes. Oh yes. She's signed to an "indie" label in the UK, but gets all the benefits of major label support - like MIA and Vampire Weekend.
21 was produced by Rick Rubin, for goodness sakes. You don't get more manufactured - for what Adele does - then that.
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We all know Adele was manufactured to be the next Amy.
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Originally posted by A Muse
To an extent... Do you really think their labels will let them release whatever the hell they want? All of those girls (minus maybe Adele) will release pop commercial, easily marketable music because their label said so. And they will look and behave in a way that is marketable, because the label said so.
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Yes, but I'm sure that the reason for why they are in compliance with their labels is because they want to succeed as much as their label wants them to, so of course they're going to make music that appeals to the masses, and in a sense, they are complicit in their own 'manufacturing'. Its irrational to think that their labels supply them with their wardrobes, or tell them how to act.
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the ones who are told what to do and make music just to make hits
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
I honestly think Katy Perry doesn't have an OUNCE of originality in her entire body. It's her looks and her producers that basically do all the work.
Report this if you must, but it's my OPINION. I recognize that she does write. But it's not particularly amazing. There are plenty of people in the world with better vocals and capability, Katy just has that "look" and they built a singer around that. Same with Jessica Simpson tbh since she doesn't appear able to do anything...
I suppose Bey was towards the beginning of her career, but she just achieved such a level of success that now she does her own thing, and it's truly BEYONCE. She acquired fame through her intense vocals, striking looks, and massive amounts of star quality which has to stem from SOME actual talent. Therefor she is NOT completely manufactured.
Britney is an enigma. We can't deny the obvious lack of powerhouse vocals, but her voice is very unique and she was an incredible dancer when she first started out. She's a capable pianist and a competent song writer. We don't really KNOW much else since we have no evidence, but people seem to say she's rather in control of her career so I'll leave that one alone.
Gaga, yes. But not in a bad way. She wanted to be this kind of classic rock n' roll chick before Rob Fusari told her to hike up her skirt and use a drum machine, so she did. She has some kind of incredible IT factor, on top of striking looks, fantastic song writing skills, and great vocals. She was a ready-born star, and her label just pushed her to make her ideas bigger and bolder, and that became her schtick. SUPPORT OF THE GAY COMMUNITY WAS ABSOLUTELY HER OWN IDEA. No record label in 2008 would willingly tell their new up-and-comer to back the LGBT community, really. The Madonna similarities emerged later, AFTER that. Nobody compared Just Dance to Madonna unless they were deranged, which is my opinion, but I will leave it at that.
And Christina just kind of fell off the map cause she was manufactured in the wrong way.
There's no such thing as a COMPLETELY non-manufactured mainstream artist, they're not just BORN with a niche in pop music. Someone has to help them along the way, be that the label or their peers. Where they go from there is the defining element.
Case closed. ![coffee2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/b80efe23.gif)
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Most of J-K/Pop groups. ![deadbanana](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/bananas/deadbanana2_zpsd45da7d4.gif) they are oh so unoriginal.
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All of these popular artists who work with big producers are manufactured. But I really don't take anyone seriously who says that Beyonce is more manufactured than Britney, but then again, this is also coming from a Ke$ha fan.
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What do people have against "manufactured" pop stars anyway? Beyonce was rigorously trained since childhood to be an entertainer and now she's one of the best in the entire world. Britney in her prime was one of the best pop stars ever, and she was manufactured. When did POP fans stop caring about quality of entertainment and start caring about pretentious **** like who has the most gimmicks, "swag", and undeserved writing credits?
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
All of these popular artists who work with big producers are manufactured. But I really don't take anyone seriously who says that Beyonce is more manufactured than Britney, but then again, this is also coming from a Ke$ha fan.
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I like Vin but what was sis thinking? asdfghjgfds
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Every artist is manufactured to an extent and some are more manufactured than others. Britney is more manufactured than Gaga.
Katy Perry and Kesha may not be brilliant vocalists / singers but they can sing and do write their own songs. Britney does write songs but none of her stuff gets used.
Beyonce and Britney may not have much respect in terms of creativity as Gaga but they both have their ideas and are capable of coming up with melodies.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cap10Planet
All of these popular artists who work with big producers are manufactured. But I really don't take anyone seriously who says that Beyonce is more manufactured than Britney, but then again, this is also coming from a Ke$ha fan.
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He's more than a K$ fan.
He's here for the Trinity.
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Ke$ha is doing music she loves & writes, I don't know why anyone would mention her.
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Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez
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Even does my fave doesnt write most of her songs, she's not Manuactured because she calls the shots. A manufactured artist has no power nor any say on what gets released or how do they talk in interviews, what image they put off to society etc.
Manufactured artist: Jessica Simpson - labeled switch her from a Gospel artist to a Pop artist in order to capitalize off of the teen pop craze as Britney and Christina.
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Vin, you ask us the question but you don't give us your thoughts on the matter.
How is Beyonce more manufactored than Britney?
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