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News: Canadian Elections Day
Member Since: 11/18/2010
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
I don't think he'll get a majority to be honest. He lost a lot of votes in the last weeks. He's at like 36-37% and would need 155 seats to have his majority, which is very unlikely.
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Well time shall tell.... and to be honest I don't like this idea of a 'coalition government' I don't want the liberals anywhere near the drivers seat.
I still haven't gone to vote yet. My parents just called and said "Don't forget to vote conservative today." Noooo thank you.
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
I actually used this tool just before voting to make sure my vote for NDP wasn't going to divide the liberal vote and make the Conservative wins. You know if a lot of ancient Liberals vote for NDP, but not enough, it could make a seat go for Conservative that manage to take the lead.
http://www.projectdemocracy.ca/canad...back-democracy
In my place it was : This is a Bloc/Liberal/NDP race with little chance for a Conservative win. Vote your preference.
It's really impressive the campain in Quebec. The NDP is now #1 here and almost everyone is trying to make people vote for ANYTHING but conservative.
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Quebec is typically Bloc, yes? So, I think it's rather amazing that the province is mostly NDP right now (according to polls, of course).
Vote ABC: Anything But Conservative! A campaign started by our beloved former premier Danny Williams.
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
It was actually founded in the 60s, but never has been a real threat before. It was more another option for those who didn't want to vote for the classic Liberals/Conservatives/Bloc Québecois, just like the Green Party if you want.
But, lately, it's been gaining a lot of popularity. I think that is because the two major partys (Liberals/Conservatives) are very disappointing right now for a lot of people. It's a very very left-progressive party and his leader has a lot of charisma.
Yeah, I was more pointing out the Alberta province rather than BC - I was just amazed by them
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Gotcha.
I wish that my school offered the AP Comparative Politics and Government course. I love politics in the US and other nations.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by DWG
Quebec is typically Bloc, yes? So, I think it's rather amazing that the province is mostly NDP right now (according to polls, of course).
Vote ABC: Anything But Conservative! A campaign started by our beloved former premier Danny Williams.
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Yes, it's always Bloc. There are 75 seats in Québec, out of 508 in Canada, and the Bloc always takes between 50-60 seats at each elections
But, the polls are saying that the NDP is #1 right now, but I don't know how many seats they will get! But, in my Facebook, 95% of my friends are voting NDP
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
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Originally posted by DWG
I have no problem disclosing my vote either.
I had an extreme dilemma in my riding. The NDP candidate is not qualified at all and is a total dick, but I want the NDP to win nationally, so I didn't know what to do. After much consideration, I voted for the person rather than the party and I voted Liberal.
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The reason i voted for him was because he made me laugh during the debates.
Also I figured since they've never won, I'd help them out.
Is that bad?
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Member Since: 3/15/2009
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I dont know a thing about politics, but my parents said they voted NDP for the first time ever. (they've always voted conservative)
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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The actual seats right now are
143 for the Conservative Party
77 for the Liberals
49 for the Bloc
37 for the NDP
2 others
308 seats - 155 needed to have a majority.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by dddderek
The reason i voted for him was because he made me laugh during the debates.
Also I figured since they've never won, I'd help them out.
Is that bad?
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No, I really like him too! He always makes me smile when he's talking (even in French) + his idea are very progressive, which I like and he loves Quebec
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
Yes, it's always Bloc. There are 75 seats in Québec, out of 508 in Canada, and the Bloc always takes between 50-60 seats at each elections
But, the polls are saying that the NDP is #1 right now, but I don't know how many seats they will get! But, in my Facebook, 95% of my friends are voting NDP
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Awesome!
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Originally posted by dddderek
The reason i voted for him was because he made me laugh during the debates.
Also I figured since they've never won, I'd help them out.
Is that bad?
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Absolutely not! You're voting for the underdog.
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Originally posted by family.guy123
I dont know a thing about politics, but my parents said they voted NDP for the first time ever. (they've always voted conservative)
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And my parents, who have voted Liberal since I can remember, would have voted NDP this year, as well, but like I said before, the NDP candidate is ****, so none of us did.
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
Posts: 3,279
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
No, I really like him too! He always makes me smile when he's talking (even in French) + his idea are very progressive, which I like and he loves Quebec
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I think they should just let y'all be your own country already and get it over with.
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
Posts: 7,401
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fadicuss
The actual seats right now are
143 for the Conservative Party
77 for the Liberals
49 for the Bloc
37 for the NDP
2 others
308 seats - 155 needed to have a majority.
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I try to follow Canadian politics as best as I can (it's far less entertaining to keep track of than American politics), but what does it mean when one party has the majority? Is it that the majority party can get things done faster and easier because they have the seats to vote for whatever they're proposing?
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
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Originally posted by dddderek
I think they should just let y'all be your own country already and get it over with.
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But I love Quebec, and want it to stay as a province of Canada.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by dddderek
I think they should just let y'all be your own country already and get it over with.
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Yeah - the language, the way of thinking, the culture, the origins are very different from the rest of the Canada. Well, it's not everyone here who would want the Quebec to separate, but that's another debate.
I've personally swore that if Harper gets a majority tonight, I'm over Canada and will start being for the separation of Québec
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by DWG
I try to follow Canadian politics as best as I can (it's far less entertaining to keep track of than American politics), but what does it mean when one party has the majority? Is it that the majority party can get things done faster and easier because they have the seats to vote for whatever they're proposing?
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It's very important. As of now, Harper cannot do everything he wants because he can still be blocked by the opposition, just like he was blocked for his last budget.
For example, he suggests a law that everyone disagree with and they vote against it - it will be his 143 seats vs the 165 of the opposition, so he won't be able to make his law pass. Also, the opposition can decide to make him fall and go on elections just like they did recently. They cannot if he has a majority and we will be stuck with him for 5 years.
But, if he gets more than 155 seats, he would be able to make pass any law just by having the vote of his own party and the opposition would have nothing to say. That. would. be. a. disaster.
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
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Originally posted by DWG
But I love Quebec, and want it to stay as a province of Canada.
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Don't get me wrong I love Montreal and Quebec City.
But why would you want a province in our country that doesn't want to be in our country.
besides I'm not sure what the Premiere's do?
But I'm sure the Quebec one is secretly trying to sabotage our country.
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
Yeah - the language, the way of thinking, the culture, the origins are very different from the rest of the Canada. Well, it's not everyone here who would want the Quebec to separate, but that's another debate.
I've personally swore that if Harper gets a majority tonight, I'm over Canada and will start being for the separation of Québec
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I love the culture..
Hated learning the language.
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
Posts: 7,401
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Originally posted by Fadicuss
It's very important. As of now, Harper cannot do everything he wants because he can still be blocked by the opposition, just like he was blocked for his last budget.
For example, he suggests a law that everyone disagree with and they vote against it - it will be his 143 seats vs the 165 of the opposition, so he won't be able to make his law pass. Also, the opposition can decide to make him fall and go on elections just like they did recently. They cannot if he has a majority and we will be stuck with him for 5 years.
But, if he gets more than 155 seats, he would be able to make pass any law just by having the vote of his own party and the opposition would have nothing to say. That. would. be. a. disaster.
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Right. Okay, just as I thought. Thank you.
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
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Originally posted by dddderek
Don't get me wrong I love Montreal and Quebec City.
But why would you want a province in our country that doesn't want to be in our country.
besides I'm not sure what the Premiere's do?
But I'm sure the Quebec one is secretly trying to sabotage our country.
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"Just kidding!"
I'm sure not every Quebecer feels that way...or do they? Maybe Fadicuss could enlighten us?
The premier runs the provincial government. They're like your province's Prime Minister.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by DWG
"Just kidding!"
I'm sure not every Quebecer feels that way...or do they? Maybe Fadicuss could enlighten us?
The premiers do things for your province. They're like your province's Prime Minister.
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No, no, no. If everyone thought like this, Quebec would already be seperated a long time ago
There was already 2 votes for the separation of Quebec here. The first one the YES lost with about 40% of the votes in 1980. In 1995, the YES lost, but with 49,8% of the votes I think. It was VERY tight. As of now, it's kinda mixed, but with all the anger against the Canadian federal politics right now, we really feel disconnected from the rest of the Canada. I mean, it's so frustrating that the Conservative are last in Québec and have almost no seats here, but our Prime Minister will still be Conservative
BTW, where do you all live? Which city?
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Member Since: 11/18/2010
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Originally posted by DWG
"Just kidding!"
I'm sure not every Quebecer feels that way...or do they? Maybe Fadicuss could enlighten us?
The premier runs the provincial government. They're like your province's Prime Minister.
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I think I remember reading Quebec had the most corrupt gov't in Canada... (not sure how true it is though)
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