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Discussion: Will Jill's recount plan work?
Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by Domination
Probably not. Jill's probably just covering her ass after she lost Hillary the election.
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Your math is off, she could have had all of Jill's votes and she still would've lost the election lol.
Democrats want to blame everyone other than Hillary and the DNC for this L.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by NE.
Your math is off, she could have had all of Jill's votes and she still would've lost the election lol.
Democrats want to blame everyone other than Hillary and the DNC for this L.
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adjnsakmd is this true
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by Suede
adjnsakmd is this true
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Some liberals are still trying to scapegoat 3rd party voters as if they were "protest voters' holding out on Hillary, when actually, most of the votes went to Johnson, and libertarians aren't liberals.
They would've likely voted Trump anyways, causing her an even bigger defeat.
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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It's Jill Stein. That's all.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by NE.
Your math is off, she could have had all of Jill's votes and she still would've lost the election lol.
Democrats want to blame everyone other than Hillary and the DNC for this L.
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Definitely not Jill on her own (she's not relevant enough to affect the outcome of the election, lol), but Hillary would have crossed the 270 threshold had she gotten Stein's and half of Johnson's votes.
People who voted third-party are directly responsible for electing Donald Trump, stop trying to blame "Hillary and the DNC" because you're pressed your candidate LOST the primaries by 4 million votes, lost the pledged delegates and the superdelegates.
Hillary will not be the 45th President of the United States, but the guy in your dimensionally-disproportionate avi won't be as well (but she was much closer to the White House than he ever will be), and that is not Hillary's fault.
Get
Over
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2016 has been a year of shocks and surprises , i wouldn't be surprised tbh
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Definitely not Jill on her own (she's not relevant enough to affect the outcome of the election, lol), but Hillary would have crossed the 270 threshold had she gotten Stein's and half of Johnson's votes.
People who voted third-party are directly responsible for electing Donald Trump, stop trying to blame "Hillary and the DNC" because you're pressed your candidate LOST the primaries by 4 million votes, lost the pledged delegates and the superdelegates.
Hillary will not be the 45th President of the United States, but the guy in your dimensionally-disproportionate avi won't be as well, and that is not Hillary's fault.
Get
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Did you read my post? LOL.
Jill was irrelevant and even she told her supporters that Hillary was more dangerous, and Hillary wouldn't have gotten even half of Johnson's votes.
Girl, who's pressed? My candidate still has a career and integrity. Your candidate rigged the primaries, had every major network and corporation on her side and still couldn't pull it off against a reality star with a hair transplant. And you say third-party voters are "directly responsible" for electing Trump as if they're guilty or regretful of a crime of some sort. They did not like your candidate and they did not care whether she lost or not. And it mystifies me why this is so difficult for Hillary supporters to grasp.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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doubt it
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by NE.
Did you read my post? LOL.
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Yes, hence why my entire post started with "definitely not Jill on her own", dude man bro!
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Originally posted by NE.
Jill was irrelevant and Hillary wouldn't have gotten even half of Johnson's votes.
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She would have if they hadn't been brainwashed by the out-of-touch idealists who gave false hope knowing they had no path forward in a 270-to-win system, dude man bro!
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Originally posted by NE.
And you say third-party voters are "directly responsible" for electing Trump as if they're guilty or regretful of a crime of some sort. They did not like your candidate and they did not care whether she lost or not. And it mystifies me why this is so difficult for Hillary supporters to grasp.
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Yes, they are guilty of getting indoctrinated into voting for a non-major party when the current electoral system (whether you like it or not) is a 270-to-win system that would never allow a viable 4-way race to the White House, they're guilty for showing up to the voting booths and enabling a man who virtually goes against ever single stance they stand for by not casting their ballots in favor of the only person in the race who has a feasible chance to defeat him; they're just as guilty as people who stayed at home, dude man bro!
Go back to making frog memes on 4chan and reddit, dude man bro!
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Definitely not Jill on her own (she's not relevant enough to affect the outcome of the election, lol), but Hillary would have crossed the 270 threshold had she gotten Stein's and half of Johnson's votes.
People who voted third-party are directly responsible for electing Donald Trump, stop trying to blame "Hillary and the DNC" because you're pressed your candidate LOST the primaries by 4 million votes, lost the pledged delegates and the superdelegates.
Hillary will not be the 45th President of the United States, but the guy in your dimensionally-disproportionate avi won't be as well (but she was much closer to the White House than he ever will be), and that is not Hillary's fault.
Get
Over
It.
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Most of the third party voters probably wouldn't have even showed up to the polls.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by NE.
Girl, who's pressed? My candidate still has a career and integrity. Your candidate rigged the primaries, had every major network and corporation on her side and still couldn't pull it off against a reality star with a hair transplant.
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Fact #1: Hillary Clinton did not rig the Democratic primaries.
Fact #2: The Democratic primaries were not rigged. Even if you give the Bros ever benefit of the doubt every single time they claimed "rigged!!!!!", she'd still the popular vote fairly easily.
Fact #3: She actually did pull it off if you consider the will of the people, who elected her twice for president; when she obliterated Sanders in the primaries with the popular vote+delegates, and won the popular vote yet again in the general election by 2M+ ballots.
Dude man bro!
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Yes, hence why my entire post started with "definitely not Jill on her own", dude man bro!
She would have if they hadn't been brainwashed by the out-of-touch idealists who gave false hope knowing they had no path forward in a 270-to-win system, dude man bro!
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They knew their candidate was not going to win, they voted with their conscience, and for the third time since it's so painfully hard for you to accept, the "brainwashed" idealists would've leaned towards Trump and added more salt to "da peeple's prez" wounds
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Yes, they are guilty of getting indoctrinated into voting for a non-major party when the current electoral system (whether you like it or not) is a 270-to-win system that would never allow a viable 4-way race to the White House, they're guilty for showing up to the voting booths and enabling a man who virtually goes against ever single stance they're for by not voting for the only person in the race who has a feasible chance to defeat him, they're just as guilty as people who stayed at home, dude man bro!
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I'm sure they're sleeping well at night.
Go back to retweeting white feminist memes and #StillWithHer hashtags and accept your candidate will never, ever see the presidency and will take that to her grave along with all of her wicked crimes. Karma is a bitch.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Fact #1: Hillary Clinton did not rig the Democratic primaries.
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She lied.
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Fact #2: The Democratic primaries were not rigged. Even if you give the Bros ever benefit of the doubt every single time they claimed "rigged!!!!!", she'd still the popular vote fairly easily.
Fact #3: She actually did pull it off if you consider the will of the people, who elected her twice for president; when she obliterated Sanders in the primaries with the popular vote+delegates, and won the popular vote yet again in the general election by 2M+ ballots.
Dude man bro!
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If the will of the people was good enough, she'd be having transition meetings in Washington right now, not knitting sweaters and roaming the woods for purpose. Your candidate's electorate was driven by fear and apathy, nobody liked her. Her supporters were simply more afraid of her opponent. Your girl was annihilated. Career ended in a matter of moments. Couldn't even face her own supporters and had to get Podesta's ass to send them home LOL. The will of the people elected Trump for President.
No, you will not have your "pop girl president" to shout "YASSS QUEEN". Get over it
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Blaming third-party is a cop-out.
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Originally posted by Mike91
Most of the third party voters probably wouldn't have even showed up to the polls.
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This. It happens every election.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by NE.
No, you will not have your "pop girl president" to shout "YASSS QUEEN". Get over it
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by NE.
They knew their candidate was not going to win, they voted with their conscience, and for the third time since it's so painfully hard for you to accept, the "brainwashed" idealists would've leaned towards Trump and added more salt to "da peeple's prez" wounds
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Their so-called "conscience" is what ended up getting Trump the White House, their "conscience" is what pushed the most qualified person to possibly seek the office of the presidency (far, far more qualified and intelligent than Bernie ) to lose the race even after making it loud and clear that she's beyond ready to take on the job, unlike the Orange Nazi they helped get elected in a 270-to-win system that isn't designed for "conscience" ballots to obstruct the voting process.
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Originally posted by NE.
Go back to retweeting white feminist memes and #StillWithHer hashtags and accept your candidate will never, ever see the presidency and will take that to her grave along with all of her wicked crimes. Karma is a bitch.
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Well, your candidate (whom Clinton wiped the floor with in the Democratic primaries) will always remain farther from the White House than Clinton was when the people overwhelmingly picked her to be president on November 8th. Get over the fact that the iconic Hillary Rodham Clinton (YASSSSSS QUEEN) will go down in history books as the person who didn't commit any crimes (according to hardcore facts), who was FLOTUS, a U.S. Senator, a successful Secretary of State and a major party candidate (something Bernz miserably failed to achieve) and was the people's choice for president despite the electoral college blocking her path forward.
Ahhhh. gotta lover #HER.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by NE.
Your math is off, she could have had all of Jill's votes and she still would've lost the election lol.
Democrats want to blame everyone other than Hillary and the DNC for this L.
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The one thing to blame here is the election system.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by NE.
Your math is off, she could have had all of Jill's votes and she still would've lost the election lol.
Democrats want to blame everyone other than Hillary and the DNC for this L.
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Why is it just the math?
Stein contributed to the credibility of the attacks on Hillary by using right-wing propaganda. She no doubt had an influence on the stigma associated with Hillary, particularly on the left. Many voted Stein. Many stayed home. Many voted Trump rather than Hillary even if they wanted Stein because they wanted to back a winning horse.
Stein's own numbers are only one part of this equation.
Of course you're right that Stein wasn't as relevant as other factors.
One would argue that Bernie did far worse damage to Hillary than Stein. Bernie attacked Hillary for being establishment and "corrupt", which was fine because he wanted to win, but Trump rode on that wave and many of Bernie's supporters (independents mostly) flocked to him.
This was mostly felt where it hurt Hillary the most, the dust belt, which incidentally went to Sanders in the primaries.
Of course people like yourself can't possibly fathom that an election that included baseless slandering, propaganda, international meddling, internal meddling, voter suppression, sexism. and rampant fake news on the media were much more impactful than Hillary's own mistakes. It was all Hillary's fault and we're all too stupid to have the same hyperbolic analysis that you have to satisfy your own viewpoints.
It's especially hilarious given that Trump did far worse mistakes but was rewarded for it.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Their so-called "conscience" is what ended up getting Trump the White House, their "conscience" is what pushed the most qualified person to possibly seek the office of the presidency (far, far more qualified and intelligent than Bernie ) to lose the race even after making it loud and clear that she's beyond ready to take on the job, unlike the Orange Nazi they helped get elected in a 270-to-win system that isn't designed for "conscience" ballots to obstruct the voting process.
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They do not regret their decision. They do not care. They exercised their Constitutional rights to voice their vote to whom they chose and were not muzzled to the constraints of the two-party system,
If by qualified you mean 30+ years of corruption, then damn right you are.
For the fourth time, your math is elementary. They preferred Trump over Clinton or would've stayed home.
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Well, your candidate (whom Clinton wiped the floor with in the Democratic primaries) will always remain farther from the White House than Clinton was when the people overwhelmingly picked her to be president on November 8th. Get over the fact that the iconic Hillary Rodham Clinton (YASSSSSS QUEEN) will go down in history books as the person who didn't commit any crimes (according to hardcore facts), who was FLOTUS, a U.S. Senator, a successful Secretary of State and a major party candidate (something Bernz miserably failed to achieve) and was the people's choice fo r president despite the electoral college blocking her path forward.
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She will only go down in history as the power-hungry crooked, bitter spouse who wanted felt she had something to prove and lost to an unknown Black man with a Muslim name and an inexperienced celebrity and had multiple FBI investigations for the dead bodies she accumulated and lies she told to the American people.
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