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Discussion: "Rushed" Eras
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I have to admit, Raymond -V- Raymond (especiallyVersus) was a bit rushed.
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Originally posted by starstruck52
Rated R shaped up when "Rude Boy" smashed. Loud is like an extension of the RB sound... so that's a no-brainer.
RR was a good album, it was just so contrived and gimmicky. Just like The Fame Monster. Both of those albums were just turn-offs. Glad they are dead and gone.
As for the original release of The Fame, GaGa didn't need to re-release. She could have had 7 singles from that album if she was that dead-set on being so overexposed. She didn't need to basically make a whole new album. But she was so hellbent on taking her image over the top she had to have more "artsy" music to perform.... so that's why TFM was created. Smh.
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So pressed.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Originally posted by staracademy1990
AGREED!! They should have waited till like March-May for a release
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March is 5 months after November
Although I semi-agree with you; the album was released at the complete wrong time. The single should've been released now & the album could've waited until March. Even with the sales push I don't think the Q4 release was right. With some promo & a good 2 months for the public to warm up to the TT it could've opened with better numbers.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Gwen Stefani's The Sweet Escape. An album filled with rejects...just doesn't sound right. The album seemed so uninspired. She worked with the same producer too often. Not the best follow up to the incredible LAMB.
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Member Since: 10/2/2009
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
March is 5 months after November
Although I semi-agree with you. The album was released at the complete wrong time. The single should've been released now & the album could've waited until March. Even with the sales push I don't think the Q4 release was right for this project. With some promo & a good 2 months for the public to warm up to the TT it could've opened with better numbers.
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I meant to say the whole era pushed to spring, so single and album released between March-May
They would have had a #1 smash + a Top 3 (possible #1) album
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Member Since: 10/2/2009
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Originally posted by RileyFreeman
I have to admit, Raymond -V- Raymond (especiallyVersus) was a bit rushed.
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Usher and his label clearly wanted to use the OMG success and use it for DGUFIL
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"Hot Tottie" could've been a way bigger hit than what it was if they didn't put all of their energy into DJ
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
I think if they release the right singles the album can make it to platinum (in the US ). So it won't be a total commercial disappointment. It won't touch The E.N.D.'s 3 million but hey, more artists than ever can't even reach a third of that.
The album's already over a million worldwide, they have a great worldwide fanbase.
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Yeah! they're really loved over here, you can hear "I Gotta Feeling" & "Boom Boom Pow" in clubs that only play reggaeton & popular music ( )!
And they're like the biggest group in the world!
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Originally posted by staracademy1990
but the whole Te Amo and Rockstar 101 mess should have been avoided
After the success of Rude Boy, Fire Bomb should have been released as a final single!!
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so true... Firebomb was the ****!
I think they were on drugs when they did that What were they thinking when they released Rockstar 101??? that song is so horrible, one of the worst of 2010!
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Originally posted by Hooligan
Releasing "Photographs" and/or "Fire Bomb" after RB smashing would've did wonders for the album instead of releasing R101 and giving up on it.
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RS101 was imo the best song on the album so I'm glad they put that out. FB and Photographs are good, but I think they would have flopped. The public didn't want ballads back then.... AT ALL.
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Member Since: 4/30/2009
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Originally posted by Kunt
So pressed.
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she didn't lie though. The Fame monster was so gimmicky and forced.
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Member Since: 10/2/2009
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Originally posted by R!ck
Yeah! they're really loved over here, you can hear "I Gotta Feeling" & "Boom Boom Pow" in clubs that only play reggaeton & popular music ( )!
And they're like the biggest group in the world!
so true... Firebomb was the ****!
I think they were on drugs when they did that What were they thinking when they released Rockstar 101??? that song is so horrible, one of the worst of 2010!
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I think the song is badass, but it's the worst single choice from the album to follow up to the success of Rude Boy. They needed a song that would smash, Fire Bomb or Photographs were the safest choices
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Originally posted by Hooligan
"Hot Tottie" could've been a way bigger hit than what it was if they didn't put all of their energy into DJ
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Hor Tottie was handled horribly - not a single performance or a video. What a joke, it could've been another top 10 for him. Same with Lil Freak, which they scrapped to make room for the at-time-time fastly oncoming monster OMG.
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Animal
-Kiss N Tell
-Blind
then move on to a full length album
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Hor Tottie was handled horribly - not a single performance or a video. What a joke, it could've been another top 10 for him. Same with Lil Freak, which they scrapped to make room for the at-time-time fastly oncoming monster OMG.
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I still can't believe they wasted two of the best songs of the year Lil' Freak and Hot Tottie
He could have increased album sales by at least 500K, those two are urban hits for sure
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Originally posted by staracademy1990
I still can't believe they wasted two of the best songs of the year Lil' Freak and Hot Tottie
He could have increased album sales by at least 500K, those two are urban hits for sure
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+1 I remember Lil freak got a lot of airplay on urban...OMG sucked so hard ill never understand how the public would prefer that **** as opposed to lil freak...same goes for hot tottie and dj
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All Ashlee's eras are rushed for something
1. Autobiography: SNL and Orange Bowl and the fact that she was doing a movie
2. I Am Me: She joined on theater doing Chicago on UK
3. Bittersweet World: A baby
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Originally posted by Toastyrokr
I'm going to post every few days an era or two and ask what you guys think about it. There are certain times in which an artists gives a fair amount of time between their album's, but then...there are the artists that hit the studio immediately after. Question is, did they rush the album's era by immediately working on new material? If so, what should they have done differently if the era either wasn't successful or should've had more promo or more singles etc... Also feel free to state your general opinion on the singles choices/album as a whole.
I've decided to start the thread with 2 of the more popular atrl artists
First album(s) in discussion are:
Personally, while the Fame era technically isn't over (the album is still selling), I think Gaga should've considered releasing Paper Gangster or Money Honey as a 5th and final single (I don't count Eh Eh...just b/c I think it was an international release only). I also think she should've reconsidered Paparazzi as a single...but then again, I'm not a big Gaga fan so I think the fans might beg to differ.
I think that while Rated R didn't sell well, she came out with Loud at a good time. However, I think if she wanted to maximize her first week sales or maybe change the album's outcome in sales she should've made the lead single either Rockstar 101 or maybe Hard (not rude boy simply b/c it doesn't reflect the rest of the album). Personally I think if she started with Wait Your Turn as an official lead single the urban market would've ate that **** alive. Overall, the reason I don't mind the Rated R era's shortness is b/c I feel like only the true Rih fans deserve this album...it's her best work to date imo
What do you all think about these albums/eras?
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Oh, no - Paparazzi was the PERFECT single. The song, combined with the video, made everyone who was initially against Gaga - and there were a LOT; I was one of them - reconsider her. IT was the perfect warmup to Bad Romance.
However, Monster, Teeth, and Speechless all should have been released.
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
Oh, no - Paparazzi was the PERFECT single. The song, combined with the video, made everyone who was initially against Gaga - and there were a LOT; I was one of them - reconsider her. IT was the perfect warmup to Bad Romance.
However, Monster, Teeth, and Speechless all should have been released.
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...yeah your right about the video...that was like the beginning of the "make a statement gaga" and the end of the "i wear legless unitards" gaga
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Originally posted by Toastyrokr
...yeah your right about the video...that was like the beginning of the "make a statement gaga" and the end of the "i wear legless unitards" gaga
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Which was needed. If she was Just Dance Gaga, she'd see the same fate as Kesha is seeing now: EP flops, no Grammy nominations, no respect.
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Originally posted by starstruck52
RS101 was imo the best song on the album so I'm glad they put that out. FB and Photographs are good, but I think they would have flopped. The public didn't want ballads back then.... AT ALL.
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But they still released Te Amo, which is a ballad. They should have released Photographs instead.
For Gaga, I think she should have released Dance In The Dark and maybe Speechless instead of Alejandro. But it's still fine that way, I don't think it would have changed things drastically for her.
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