Oh and there was this other time when my family and i went to my Grandma`s house for the summer, We always hear Chains And Whips on the top floor. The top floor had no ceiling on it. We also heard voices, so my grandma thought they were spirits. So she brought in a Pastor to put holly water all over it. So next day, while we were all sleeping, and my grandma heard a chair flip. (plastic chair very easy to push) so she thought it was my grandpa`s spirit so she was like ``Please leave now`` Then she said ``Lucifer i am not tolerate your satanic actions, leave my house now`` she heard my brother`s video games moving and some of her stuff moving. So she stood and turned the lights on, there she found them robbing my brother playstation 1 and some of jewlery she screamed and idk how but while one escaped through the window the other one attempted to jump, my grand holded him by his throat, almost chocking him until my big brother told him stop it. And so she let go, and he ran away