[idkher]

These responses she'd be in the same position, her type of music just hasn't been popular since the turn of the decade

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by IBeMe

this tbh.

she had a drive to become MASSIVE like Madonna and Janet. kind of like when you first get hired in a good job and you only concetrate in your work and want ot become the next CEO in that company...only to find out life isnt all about that...and sometimes it takes a big blow for oyu to realize that. so in a way the breakdown might have been a blessing for her because she is so much more relaxed and looks calmer with her kids but as you said.....performer Brit just went downhill..which is sad due to the potential but on a human level im glad she is happy now more then she would of ever been at the top

She kinda already surpassed one of them but I won't go into it for fear of turning a good thread into a dragging free-for-all

I feel like all the **** that happened to her was meant to happen. And I won't hold my breath, but I'm still hopeful that some wonderful and meaningful/honest music will come out of her maturity and unique perspective.

[IBeMe]

^ @idkher (the member) sis maybe her type of music would of been different by now. In The Zone would of worked so good now. some tracks sound timeless. they would just need a bit of a tweeking in terms of sound quality. engineering. if she gave more albums like In The Zone..I think she would still bbe at the top in 2015

[BabyCantYouSee]

Originally posted by idkher

These responses she'd be in the same position, her type of music just hasn't been popular since the turn of the decade

Blackout and FF were begging to smash during their respective times.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by idkher

These responses she'd be in the same position, her type of music just hasn't been popular since the turn of the decade

what?

The difference between pre-2007 Britney and today's Britney is that with ITZ and even Original Doll, Britney was helming almost all of the music from production, songwriting and more. She would probably be at the level of JT in terms of producing her own melodies, lyrics and maybe even beats with her trajectory of continued growth and creative control, if she hadn't been sidelined.

So no. We almost 100% wouldn't have today's mix of hot-producer-of-the-moment and Max Martin/Dr.Luke on the albums. But I'm ok with it too.

[Eternium]

Originally posted by idkher

These responses she'd be in the same position, her type of music just hasn't been popular since the turn of the decade

Then how does she debut her kind of music at #1? She debuted an album at #1 this decade, a single (which influenced a ton of commercial, faux-dubstep tracks), has had multiple singles sell millions of copies WW (even WB sold around 2M), etc. Your fave even went to her because she needed help getting her radio fodder to #1 and Britney proved herself as the queen of strong debuts. How is her music "unpopular?"

[KORDEI]

Then her current floppage and fall from grace wouldn't be justified and she'd be seen as what she truly is. a fad
if Mariah could come back from glitter then there's no reason why she didn't bounce back. just my opinonata.

[Retro]

Originally posted by idkher

These responses she'd be in the same position, her type of music just hasn't been popular since the turn of the decade

"Her type of music"

Jfc have you even heard ITZ

[Baby Boy]

Originally posted by idkher

These responses she'd be in the same position, her type of music just hasn't been popular since the turn of the decade

You're right. Dr. Luke/Max Martin produced pop songs haven't been big in years.

[Vulps]

I mean she remained a force even after the breakdown. In terms of commercial power anyway.

I'm sure she could maintain the success she found with Circus and FF if she put some effort into it. Sure there'd be the standard decline that every artist faces but I think she'd still be doing much, much better than she did with Britney Jean. But her priorities are different now, or so it seems. We can blame her label all we want but she's been in the business for a long time now and she can have her way if she wants. At a certain point you have to admit that she lets certain things just happen.

Britney the performer has long since been forgotten by the public now. And I don't think she's at the level she needs to be to change that. But she could still impress them with a really great album. Whether she wants to, who knows. As usual, it's near impossible to figure out what's going on with it her. It's always interesting to watch though.

[IBeMe]

Originally posted by YeaBey4ever

Then her current floppage and fall from grace wouldn't be justified and she'd be seen as what she truly is. a fad
if Mariah could come back from glitter then there's no reason why she didn't bounce back. just my opinonata.

the difference between Mariah's fall/breakdown and Brit's is that Britney had KIDS. This adds so much more stress and hate from the media. when ppl see a woman going through a mental breakdown..ppl can already be ruthless...add in two children and you get called a bad mom, then custody battles ect...the stress this poor girl had to go through is un matched. I never witnessed a frenzy as big as that and I was super young then. not even a stan of anything yet everyone was talking about Brit and how she is "crazy" ppl calling her evil names. Mariah dealt with half of Brit's hate I think.

also Britney was taking really hard drugs and was being tricked deceived by a money hungry paparazzi/fake lover.
she was oing through depression....monetary issues with her father and management. it was really really bad

[Eternium]

Originally posted by YeaBey4ever

Then her current floppage and fall from grace wouldn't be justified and she'd be seen as what she truly is. a fad
just my opinonata

Her recurrent streams are better than Lady Gaga, P!nk (who outsells everyone sans Taylor and Adele, hihi), Miley Cyrus, etc. Her catalog sales are the strongest for any female that debuted in the second half of the nineties. How is she a fad when she tripled the successes of all of the other solo female artists of the time?

Seriously, Alicia Keys, Avril Lavigne, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, etc. all sold around 35M albums (being generous) whereas Britney was the only female act of that generation to break 50M...and she passed that barrier by about 35M, the approximate size of those other pop girls' of the time's careers. How is she a fad?

[Save My Life]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

Um...no one can be sure. I would say the breakdown ruined Britney the performer, but forever cemented Britney the icon and legend. She went through tough times much like other controversial pop/hollywood figures before her (Elvis, MJ, Marilyn, etc), and I think in the long run, had she not gone through it, she would have just been a super successful poster that would have eventually faded away when old age set in.

+. she's so happy with her boys and family. I bet if you ask her today, she would say it was all worth it.

This is probably the first logical post that has ever came from you so one round of applause At the end of the day and it may not seem like it, I'm sure it made her a stronger woman and now she doesn't have to wear herself out. I think she took a step back and had to choose what was more important to her because juggling a massive career with family life (which at the time, was deteriorating) was taking a strain on her.

I'm happy for her where she can just work at night time and still come home and get her kids off to school in the morning or take them to activities during the day. She still gets to be very actively involved in watching them grow up and that is the most important thing here. Just being a great mother.

[IBeMe]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

She kinda already surpassed one of them but I won't go into it for fear of turning a good thread into a dragging free-for-all

I feel like all the **** that happened to her was meant to happen. And I won't hold my breath, but I'm still hopeful that some wonderful and meaningful/honest music will come out of her maturity and unique perspective.

now I wont say any names but r u talking about the one who has a famous brother?

[idkher]

Originally posted by Eternium

Then how does she debut her kind of music at #1? She debuted an album at #1 this decade, a single (which influenced a ton of commercial, faux-dubstep tracks), has had multiple singles sell millions of copies WW (even WB sold around 2M), etc. Your fave even went to her because she needed help getting her radio fodder to #1 and Britney proved herself as the queen of strong debuts. How is her music "unpopular?"

Well first of all those #1 debuts were, as I said, at the turn of the decade when that type of music was still popular. Even with that said you know those #1 debuts mean nothing when their overall sales look the way they do. Her success this decade has been nothing special but I'll leave it to you to spin it in her favor.

[Shaliydah88]

I feel like Original Doll would've never seen the light of day regardless.

I also think that, had Dec. 2006- Aug. 2007 never happened, she wouldve bee nmuch better off. She needed time away from the spotlight to get herself together, even though that was virtually impossible at the time. Had that happened, the Blackout era would've been massive. The comeback of the controversial Princess of Pop, in full control. She could've channeled all of her struggles and pain and put it into the VMA performance. It would've been iconic instead of infamously bad.

Basically, had it never happened, it would've been the Circus era on steroids. It would've really been Britney, bitch.

[Vulps]

Originally posted by Eternium

Her recurrent streams are better than Lady Gaga, P!nk (who outsells everyone sans Taylor and Adele, hihi), Miley Cyrus, etc. Her catalog sales are the strongest for any female that debuted in the second half of the nineties. How is she a fad when she tripled the successes of all of the other solo female artists of the time?

Seriously, Alicia Keys, Avril Lavigne, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, etc. all sold around 35M albums (being generous) whereas Britney was the only female act of that generation to break 50M...and she passed that barrier by about 35M, the approximate size of those other pop girls' of the time's careers. How is she a fad?

Sometimes when a person says something that blatantly ignorant it's best to just give your soul a break and pretend you never saw it.

Originally posted by Shaliydah88

I feel like Original Doll would've never seen the light of day regardless.

I also think that, had Dec. 2006- Aug. 2007 never happened, she wouldve bee nmuch better off. She needed time away from the spotlight to get herself together, even though that was virtually impossible at the time. Had that happened, the Blackout era would've been massive. The comeback of the controversial Princess of Pop, in full control. She could've channeled all of her struggles and pain and put it into the VMA performance. It would've been iconic instead of infamously bad.

Basically, had it never happened, it would've been the Circus era on steroids. It would've really been Britney, bitch.

Blackout or whatever they wanted her comeback album to be should have been pushed back a good year or so until she was truly ready. If they wanted to keep her busy + keep cashing in some coins there were far better options (for her, anyway).

Heck, they could have released Original Doll and have let it sell itself.

[Save My Life]

Originally posted by YeaBey4ever

Then her current floppage and fall from grace wouldn't be justified and she'd be seen as what she truly is. a fad
if Mariah could come back from glitter then there's no reason why she didn't bounce back. just my opinonata.

I'm not a Britney stan by any means but come on. Do you think Britney actually still has the motivation or desire to make a come back?

[Miss Korea]

Originally posted by YeaBey4ever

Then her current floppage and fall from grace wouldn't be justified and she'd be seen as what she truly is. a fad

Fad
noun
An intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived; a craze.

1999: Baby One More Time, the album and single, are #1 in the US.
2011: Femme Fatale, S&M and Hold It Against Me are #1 in the US.

I wonder what kind of person counts 12 years as a 'short-lived craze'.

[IBeMe]

guys what is this Originall doll album/concept I keep hearing of here? can someone give me a detailed explanation and ost tracks that would of been on this2005 album?