[fabian_phipps]

Originally posted by Kats

So much delusion. I won't even start on this.

They didn't lie though.

[G4L]

Originally posted by thewaitinggame

The numbers speak for themselves. The numbers are even more impressive when considering that Loud was launched after TD and Rihanna began another project before TD (& it's re-release) finished.

Right.

[zzmyth]

Originally posted by Duca

I posted how much both albums sold prior to the release of "Part Of Me,” since it was the lead single from the re-release and “Teenage Dream” rebounded that week.

LOUD:

3. Loud - 406.000 - (Week 1)
4. Loud - 300.000 - (Week 2) (-26%)
5. Loud - 243.000 - (Week 3) (-19%)
3. Loud - 278.000 - (Week 4) (+14%) - 1M mark (1.227.000)
4. Loud - 409.000 - (Week 5) (+47%)
1. Loud - 521.000 - (Week 6 - 1 week at No.1-) (+27%) - 2M mark (2.157.000)
1. Loud - 225.000 - (Week 7 - 2 weeks at No.1-) (-57%)
1. Loud - 145.000 - (Week 8 - 3 weeks at No.1-) (-36%)
1. Loud - 130.000 - (Week 9 - 4 weeks at No.1-) (-10%)
2. Loud - 126.000 - (Week 10) (-3%)
3. Loud - 111.000 - (Week 11) (-12%)
3. Loud - 108.000 - (Week 12) (-3%) - 3M mark (3.002.000)
3. Loud - 124.000 - (Week 13) (+15%)
5. Loud - 141.000 - (Week 14) (+14%)
6. Loud - 123.000 - (Week 15) (-13%)
7. Loud - 107.000 - (Week 16) (-13%)
10. Loud - 98.000 - (Week 17) (-8%)
7. Loud - 87.000 - (Week 18) (-11%)
9. Loud - 81.000 - (week 19) (-9%)
8. Loud - 91.000 - (Week 20) (+12%)
7. Loud - 68.000 - (week 21) (-25%)
9. Loud - 64.000 - (Week 22) (-6%)
7. Loud - 71.000 - (Week 23) (+11%) - 4M mark (4.057.000)
6. Loud - 61.000 - (Week 24) (-14%)
13. Loud - 54.000 - (Week 25) (-11%)
13. Loud - 53.000 - (Week 26) (-2%)
10. Loud - 50.000 - (Week 27) (-6%)
12. Loud - 51.000 - (Week 28) (+2%)
14. Loud - 51.000 - (Week 29) (+0%)
15. Loud - 50.000 - (Week 30) (-2%)
17. Loud - 52.000 - (Week 31) (+4%)
18. Loud - 48.000 - (Week 32) (-8%)
18. Loud - 47.000 - (Week 33) (-2%)
10. Loud - 46.000 - (Week 34) (-2%)
18. Loud - 42.000 - (Week 35) (-9%)
18. Loud - 43.000 - (Week 36) (+2%)
17. Loud - 40.000 - (Week 37) (-7%)
19. Loud - 41.000 - (Week 38) (+2%)
17. Loud - 40.000 - (Week 39) (-3%)
12. Loud - 40.000 - (Week 40) (+0%)
13. Loud - 52.000 - (Week 41) (+30%)
16. Loud - 43.000 - (Week 42) (-17%)
18. Loud - 38.000 - (Week 43) (-12%)
22. Loud - 36.000 - (Week 44) (-5%) - 5M mark (5.035.000)
26. Loud - 36.000 - (Week 45) (=)
31. Loud - 34.000 - (Week 46) (-6%)
32. Loud - 31.000 - (Week 47) (-9%)
40. Loud - 27.000 - (Week 48) (-13%)
30. Loud - 30.000 - (Week 49) (+11%)
23. Loud - 32.000 - (Week 50) (+7%)
31. Loud - 34.000 - (Week 51) (+6%)
32. Loud - 32.000 - (Week 52) (-6%)
37. Loud - 31.000 - (Week 53) (-3%)
38. Loud - 51.000 - (Week 54) (+65%)
54. Loud - 31.000 - (Week 55) (-39%)
OUT. Loud - 33.000 - (Week 56) (+6%)
OUT. Loud - 31.000 - (Week 57) (-5%)
OUT. Loud - 44.000 - (Week 58) (+42%)
OUT. Loud - 34.000 - (Week 59) (-23%)
40. Loud - 23.000 - (Week 60) (-32%)
29. Loud - 22.000 - (Week 61) (-4%)
OUT Loud - 16.000 - (Week 62) (-27%)
OUT Loud - 15.000 - (Week 63) (-6%)
OUT Loud - 14.000 - (Week 64) (-7%)
OUT Loud - 14.000 - (Week 65) (+0%)
OUT Loud - 17.000 - (Week 66) (+21%)
OUT Loud - 14.000 - (Week 67) (-18%)
OUT Loud - 12.000 - (Week 68) (-14%)
OUT Loud - 10.000 - (Week 69) (-17%)
OUT Loud - 10.000 - (Week 70) (+0%)
OUT Loud - 10.000 - (Week 71) (+0%)
OUT Loud - 9.000 - (Week 72) (-10%)
OUT Loud - 9.000 - (Week 73) (+0%)
OUT

TOTAL: 5.741.000 copies

^ COMPLETE MEDIATRAFFIC CHARTRUN

All 'official' mediatraffic numbers given by the manager of the webpage

[KB.]

I mean LOUD outsold TD without a rerelease and in a shorter time frame and less successful singles. Plus it had the bigger tour.

[Abnormal]

I love how the people saying LOUD in this thread because of album sales were the ones saying Teenage Dream against Born This Way because of single sales.

Single sales mean nothing. It's all about album sales and tour receipts, so "LOUD". Then again, I believe Katy's tickets were cheaper than Rihanna's.

[NewRihannaStan]

Originally posted by Kats

So much delusion. I won't even start on this.

gorl please Rihanna>>>katy perry i mean the numbers are there boo

[fabian_phipps]

Originally posted by Allie

LET'S not talk about how Riri had to discount her first ****ing single lmao. Be quiet.

No one remembers that though... Even I had to stretch my brain to vaguely remember that download weekend. All what s/he said was true! People will remember the TD era because of what they listed.

[2AM]

You all don't even look passed the numbers. It would be interesting to note that the LOUD Tour did not even stop at venues in Japan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, and Mexico. The California Dreams Tour attended all of these countries to sold out-venues, that right there is significant in how far the era's "reached" WW.
Also keep in mind that this era as a whole is far more memorable than the LOUD era, which didn't really make much impact and was easily forgettable.
And let's not even speak in terms of awards and nominations, Katy takes that cake easily.

[eli's_rhythm]

I like the Loud era more, but Teenage Dream was more successful in the sense that it furthered Katy's career. In Rihanna's case, while it did give her a proper comeback from the possibly career-killing Rated R, we still haven't reached the end of her album sales rollercoaster, as TTT shows. Teenage Dream positions Katy to have another huge era if she gives it a rest soon and takes a break for a year or two, and it made her a much bigger name worldwide.

[BettyWhite]

What kind of question...
LOUD>>>>>>>>>

[REALiTi]

Originally posted by Allie

LET'S not talk about how Riri had to discount her first ****ing single lmao. Be quiet.

Didn't her label discount Only Girl (In The World) almost 3 MONTHS after the songs release? It was a complete surprise from a huge sales boost of a discount it went #1, it didn't seem like a tactical plan like Katy's team would pull with correctly planned radio deals, remixes and discounts to hit #1.

[Damien M]

Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ

I mean LOUD outsold TD without a rerelease and in a shorter time frame and less successful singles. Plus it had the bigger tour.

Right.
It's really a no-brainer here.

[NewRihannaStan]

Originally posted by Allie

LET'S not talk about how Riri had to discount her first ****ing single lmao. Be quiet.

honey there are no lies in this post

[TPG14]

Teenage Dream will always be the era that general music buyers remember as the era that produced 5 #1 singles and tied the great Michael Jackson. That being said, yes, LFN was discounted, but it still did exceptionally well on iTunes and radio. On the other hand, Loud produced 4 truely memorable singles for me (WMN, OG, S&M, CKB). Based on album sales, Loud did better.

I ultimately chose Teenage Dream for the poll.

[fabian_phipps]

Originally posted by Kats

You all don't even look passed the numbers. It would be interesting to note that the LOUD Tour did not even stop at venues in Japan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina.

You bring it onto your self sis.

[zzmyth]

Originally posted by Kats

You all don't even look passed the numbers. It would be interesting to note that the LOUD Tour did not even stop at venues in Japan, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina. The California Dreams Tour attended all of these countries to sold out-venues, that right there is significant in how far the era's "reached" WW.
Also keep in mind that this era as a whole is far more memorable than the LOUD era, which didn't really make much impact and was easily forgettable.
And let's not even speak in terms of awards and nominations, Katy takes that cake easily.

what awards and nominations hunn? school me.

TD won no grammys at all. And last time I checked BOTH were nominated for album of the year

[Last Boy on Earth]

Ya'll can argue everything you want. Fact is Rihanna sold more albums, more singles (yes, Worldwide OG, S&M and WMN sold more than all perry singles besides CG and Firework), more tickets etc. Numbers don't lie.
Everything with 1/20 the promo, less tour dates and less discounts in both albums AND singles.

[Katy.Kat.23]

Originally posted by fabian_phipps

No one remembers that though... Even I had to stretch my brain to vaguely remember that download weekend. All what s/he said was true! People will remember the TD era because of what they listed.

Most of the general public don't even know/care about the discounts or remixes though
My friends were going through my phone and found the Missy Elliot LFN remix, and they asked if I made it

The TD will not be remembered by remixes/discounts

[/enddiscussion]

[SLAYANNA NAVY]

Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King

LOUD.

Katy mighta had the Single sales, but Rih has everything else. Tour did better & album did better. All Katy has are her singles.

!!!!! Couldn't have said it any better

[zzmyth]

TBH lets not forget that BOTH ERAS HAVE BEEN HUGE.... lets not be stupid here.

TD era has been very successful.

But Loud outdid it with a third of the promo and money spent