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ATRL Users's Hatred Meets New High
Member Since: 3/2/2008
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Leona isn't established yet. MC Hammer broke records. Billy Ray Cyrus did records. I'm not hating on Leona, I'm just stating the facts to the Leona stans. (And I can honestly say, I'm a Raven stan. And an Aly & AJ stan.)
But it's nice to see most people believe the underdogs are making better albums that the big people. I've heard Usher, Mariah, Madonna, and Leona's. They bore me. They're filled with more ballads than ever. Ballads are great, but after a while they get boring. Usher's is the best out of the four. Followed by Madonna, Mariah, then Leona. I was expecting that they would be hits compared to the singles. But apparently the singles are only worth downloading. (Or in Mariah's case the videos. That's the only way I'll download Touch My Body. Great video.)
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Member Since: 3/24/2008
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LOL and yes they are established, established flops but I see how you missed out all my other points to why Leona is an established artist
Definition of Established:
"To make stable or firm; to confirm;"
I think Leona easily fits into that with having a #1 album in the US/UK and selling 4 million WW, having 2#1s and #2 in here home country and being in the public eye for the past two years in her home country
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Member Since: 7/1/2007
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The Veronicas
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by tcatron565
On Raven-Symone. But, you know what, all this hatred is giving her more promotion than her label would ever or have ever given her.
RAVEN FOREVER!!!!!!!
And btw, have any of you haters ever heard the album? At least I listen to the album before bashing all over. I can honestly say that 90% of this year's top sellers are WORSE than the flops. Lil Mama, I Nine, The Veronicas, Raven, and Ashlee Simpson's albums can blow Mariah, Leona, Usher, and Madonna's out of the water.
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FLOP.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 3/1/2007
Posts: 19,847
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Originally posted by tcatron565
Leona isn't established yet. MC Hammer broke records. Billy Ray Cyrus did records. I'm not hating on Leona, I'm just stating the facts to the Leona stans. (And I can honestly say, I'm a Raven stan. And an Aly & AJ stan.)
But it's nice to see most people believe the underdogs are making better albums that the big people. I've heard Usher, Mariah, Madonna, and Leona's. They bore me. They're filled with more ballads than ever. Ballads are great, but after a while they get boring. Usher's is the best out of the four. Followed by Madonna, Mariah, then Leona. I was expecting that they would be hits compared to the singles. But apparently the singles are only worth downloading. (Or in Mariah's case the videos. That's the only way I'll download Touch My Body. Great video.)
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Usher the best album out of the 4? That's just complete delusion
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Member Since: 10/21/2005
Posts: 19,258
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Pretty much every artist related to Disney, ATRL seems to hate on.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 12/21/2002
Posts: 20,569
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lmao, sales.
Who gives a ****.
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Member Since: 2/26/2008
Posts: 457
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Originally posted by LOL!
LOL yes I think it is safe to say shs ie established, when you've broke as many records as she has, has had 2 #1s and a #2 in your home country, had the #1 WW song, #1 debut album and single in the US and you cant really use the "hasn't even released another single yet" as a dig, because it's a cheapshot really, because it would be silly to realease a single straight away when her current one is still #1 on radio, but it isn't now so the next single is released next week actually.
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Leona may be established enough at the moment, but that is because she is riding on the success of ''Bleeding Love'', that song has made her career, but it could also break it.
Just look at James blunt, his first album sold 2,200,000+ in the US alone (Because of; ''You're Beautiful''), & his new album has sold 2 million copies less .
I doubt Leona's success will fade away, but just wanted to highlight that having success with your first single + album; does not make you 100% established as an artist.
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Member Since: 9/27/2005
Posts: 2,010
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Originally posted by crushcrushcrush
Leona may be established enough at the moment, but that is because she is riding on the success of ''Bleeding Love'', that song has made her career, but it could also break it.
Just look at James blunt, his first album sold 2,200,000+ in the US alone (Because of; ''You're Beautiful''), & his new album has sold 2 million copies less .
I doubt Leona's success will fade away, but just wanted to highlight that having success with your first single + album; does not make you 100% established as an artist.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I hate overly-conceited stans.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Flo Rida and Soulja Boy broke records. OMFG, established artists! =-o
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Member Since: 10/21/2001
Posts: 25,547
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Originally posted by tcatron565
On Raven-Symone. But, you know what, all this hatred is giving her more promotion than her label would ever or have ever given her.
RAVEN FOREVER!!!!!!!
And btw, have any of you haters ever heard the album? At least I listen to the album before bashing all over. I can honestly say that 90% of this year's top sellers are WORSE than the flops. Lil Mama, I Nine, The Veronicas, Raven, and Ashlee Simpson's albums can blow Mariah, Leona, Usher, and Madonna's out of the water.
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I agree....except for Lil Mama
The Veronicas/I Nine/Ashlee > Leona >> Raven >>>>>>>> Madonna/Mariah/Usher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lil Mama
But then again, Mazen bashes on young talent all the time and tries to ruin their hopes and dreams
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Member Since: 12/21/2002
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One of the best albums of 2007 (Evans Blue - The Pursuit Begins When This Portrayal of Life Ends) didn't sell more than 100,000 copies.
Then again, at least they aren't Ron Artest:
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According to SoundScan, in an embarrassing first week of sales, NBA baller Ron Artest sold only 343 copies of his debut album, My World, as reported by SOUND SLAM.
The figures are astonishingly low, seeing that K-Fed even managed to push 6,000 units his first week.
Artest is best known for his scuffle with some fans during a 2004 Pacers/Pistons game. He lost $5 million dollars in salary as a result of his suspension from the confrontation. Earlier this fall, Artest just got off a European tour with Fat Joe.
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Member Since: 5/17/2006
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I have to agree a lot of these established artist cd suck this time around so it not really saying much imo though
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Member Since: 3/24/2008
Posts: 3,564
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Originally posted by crushcrushcrush
Leona may be established enough at the moment, but that is because she is riding on the success of ''Bleeding Love'', that song has made her career, but it could also break it.
Just look at James blunt, his first album sold 2,200,000+ in the US alone (Because of; ''You're Beautiful''), & his new album has sold 2 million copies less .
I doubt Leona's success will fade away, but just wanted to highlight that having success with your first single + album; does not make you 100% established as an artist.
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But how many times have I said it, I'm not talking about her first single, I'm talking about three singles, shortly a fourth
Srsly ask like most people in the country I live in and they've known about Leona for what two years now, know more than one of her singles I think that shows she is an established artist enough
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Originally posted by yuminari.
Exactly what I was thinking. I hate overly-conceited stans.
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bitch please
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Member Since: 7/28/2005
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Member Since: 8/9/2004
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Originally posted by Tightrope
But then again, Mazen bashes on young talent all the time and tries to ruin their hopes and dreams
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Except the likes of Pinocchio Tisdale will never gain success or talent.
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Member Since: 7/1/2005
Posts: 12,107
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Originally posted by Johnald.
lmao, sales.
Who gives a ****.
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I agree that sales aren't the only things that matter, but with varied music taste and opinion, there really is no other indicator of wut is popular and who is established.
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Member Since: 5/17/2006
Posts: 6,429
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Originally posted by Tightrope
I agree....except for Lil Mama
The Veronicas/I Nine/Ashlee > Leona >> Raven >>>>>>>> Madonna/Mariah/Usher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lil Mama
But then again, Mazen bashes on young talent all the time and tries to ruin their hopes and dreams
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Why do you give a **** what mazen says he is a no body. Just someone who post on the board. His opinions dont mean ****. Most people on this board have no ****ing opinions and pathetically ride his **** for no reason.
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Member Since: 9/15/2007
Posts: 6,484
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Originally posted by Saba
Why do you give a **** what mazen says he is a no body most people on this board have no ****ing opinions and pathetically ride his **** for no reason.
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Member Since: 9/27/2005
Posts: 2,010
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Originally posted by LOL!
bitch please
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We'll see if she has the ability to last a decade. :heart:
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