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Discussion: Was Janet Jackson Local?
Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Quiqui4eva
Not having a #1 in a certain country doesn't make you irrelevant/non-factor
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Exactly... Janet was never local....... She's an international star.....
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by Bathomet
yes. Most ppl don't know any of her songs.
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Originally posted by Duca
World's 10 biggest markets:
US: 10 #1's
Japan: No #1's - Still sold a **** load there
Germany: No #1's Still has top 5-10 singles there and a Platinum
UK: No #1's - Still Has a Platinum single there (hard to get pre-digital era) and plenty of top 5 hits
France: No #1's - Again still has Hits there
Canada: 6 #1's
Australia: No #1's WRONG That's the way Love goes?
Netherlands: 1 #1
Italy: No #1's
Brazil: No #1's
She wasn't really a factor outside US/Canada.
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That's The way Love goes went #1 in Australia, New Zealand, and South africa, Her singles haven't done good at going #1 but they still went top 5-10 Everywhere, Together Again topped the 2 germans and a dog chart for 7 weeks (A chart which u and others obsess over). Plus her tours were huge.
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Member Since: 4/25/2012
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I knew who she was growing up in the UK (Born 1992) but i can only name like two songs of hers.
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Originally posted by Cassiopeia
But she has no memorable hits worldwide.
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What, Like That's The Way Love Goes, Together Again, or All For You?
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by tcweh
What, Like That's The Way Love Goes, Together Again, or All For You?
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Never heard any of them until a couple of years ago. (tbh, i only know All For You out of those)
(and i'm 24, it's not like i'm 12)
Songs from true WW legends like Madonna, Michael, Whitney are with you since you are a baby. I heart I Will Always Love You since I was like 5-6 and still hear it. Janet never had that. She doesn't have a memorable WW hit.
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Sadly, yes. She has a small international following. Kind of ironic-you would think she would be the most global considering who her brother is. I mean Britney Spears has outsold her and Britney came out 2 decades later. That speaks volumes. Oh well, I still like Janet. She is a very accomplished and underrated popstar. Kind of like her more than Michael to be honest. Her music is more interesting to me
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by tcweh
What, Like That's The Way Love Goes, Together Again, or All For You?
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Rhythm Nation and Miss you Much are two of the most iconic songs in pop culture ever
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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You have to understand what made Janet was MTV. Her singles on their own arent that great. It was dance and music video that made her. She was an MTV staple, I remember Together Again and All for You were played constantly on MTV Hits (here in the U.S.). MTV used to always kiss Janet's ass. They were the ones who produced that Superbowl show. She would be nothing without music videos and MTV support. Look at where she is now. Music videos arent hot anymore and MTV doesnt use her. Lets be honest: America doesnt use Madonna either anymore for the most part, but at least Madonna has a huge international fanbase especially in Europe. Janet has nothing. I wish her the best though. It would be nice if she did have a great comeback-though it is highly unlikely
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
You have to understand what made Janet was MTV. Her singles on their own arent that great. It was dance and music video that made her. She was an MTV staple, I remember Together Again and All for You were played constantly on MTV Hits (here in the U.S.). She would be nothing without music videos and MTV support. Look at where she is now. Music videos arent hot anymore and MTV doesnt use her anymore. Lets be honest: America doesnt use Madonna either anymore for the most part, but at least Madonna has a huge international fanbase especially in Europe. Janet has nothing.
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I have no idea why you needed to drag Madonna into this
Madonna has a huge worldwide fanbase not only in Europe, but also in Latin America and Asia
And Janet's Rhythm Nation and her follow up album 'Janet' are two of the best produced records in pop, so don't come and say her singles weren't that great just because you don't like them that much
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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I'm from Europe and the only song of hers I've ever heard, is 'Feedback' or something.
So, I guess yes.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Nikko
I'm from Europe and the only song of hers I've ever heard, is 'Feedback' or something.
So, I guess yes.
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I can't wait for the Janet fans and the people that actually know something about culture to step into this because the people here are too much
Janet was and is huge worldwide, there's not a corner on earth where she isn't know.
I'm done, I will let the Janet stans show receipts and drag you all to pits when they wake up.
Peace
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I'm surpirsed many of you don't know the impact of Rhythm Nation
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
You have to understand what made Janet was MTV. Her singles on their own arent that great. It was dance and music video that made her. She was an MTV staple, I remember Together Again and All for You were played constantly on MTV Hits (here in the U.S.). MTV used to always kiss Janet's ass. They were the ones who sponsored that Superbowl show. She would be nothing without music videos and MTV support. Look at where she is now. Music videos arent hot anymore and MTV doesnt use her. Lets be honest: America doesnt use Madonna either anymore for the most part, but at least Madonna has a huge international fanbase especially in Europe. Janet has nothing. I wish her the best though. It would be nice if she did have a great comeback-though it is highly unlikely
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Ye, I agree. Her dancing is more known than her music.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Swag
I can't wait for the Janet fans and the people that actually know something about culture to step into this because the people here are too much
Janet was and is huge worldwide, there's not a corner on earth where she isn't know.
I'm done, I will let the Janet stans show receipts and drag you all to pits when they wake up.
Peace
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You just clocked yourself.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Quiqui4eva
Not having a #1 in a certain country doesn't make you irrelevant/non-factor
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please explain that to him
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Originally posted by Swag
I have no idea why you needed to drag Madonna into this
Madonna has a huge worldwide fanbase not only in Europe, but also in Latin America and Asia
And Janet's Rhythm Nation and her follow up album 'Janet' are two of the best produced records in pop, so don't come and say her singles weren't that great just because you don't like them that much
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I said especially in Europe. Yes, Madonna has a huge fanbase all over. I brought her up to make the point that Janet lacks in being international unlike Madonna who doesnt. Madonna can always use her international fanbase as a crutch in case she underwhelms in the U.S.. Janet doesnt have that kind of advantage.
Yes, RN1814 is actually-in my opinion-one of the best pop albums ever made. I meant her singles werent that great in that they werent monumental, I didnt mean to say her songs were bad. Janet is my favorite pop artist, after Madonna. I would never say her songs are bad, I like her music lol. I think she is very underrated and her records are very undercertified also
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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she is not local, she is so hated on here
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by Swag
I can't wait for the Janet fans and the people that actually know something about culture to step into this because the people here are too much
Janet was and is huge worldwide, there's not a corner on earth where she isn't know.
I'm done, I will let the Janet stans show receipts and drag you all to pits when they wake up.
Peace
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I don't know if I'm 'too much', I'm sharing my opinion. Maybe she's not very popular in my country only. I'm sure most of my friends don't even know her, but they do know Whitney, Mariah or Michael. I know she has much star power, but I haven't really heard much of her.
It's either you misunderstood me, or I didn't express myself the way I meant to.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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What does atrl have aganist the jackson family? every thread about them is either to shade or drag them really its pathetic, and who the **** cares if she was local or not its the music that matters the most, stop putting so much damn emphasize on success,i could care less if she was successful or "local" i love her for herself and her music and thats all that should matter to be honest
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