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Poll: Does Marina And The Diamonds Deserve To Flop?
View Poll Results: Does She Deserve To Flop For Hypocrisy?
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YES!
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NO!
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Member Since: 4/13/2012
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Originally posted by Tysen
Well she's now part of that hit factory she used to hate so much. Too bad it's not working out so well for her.
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Except she still writes her own lyrics and keeps her goals intact and refuses to sell out to the extent of the other people Dr. Luke has worked with and sing about partying and alcohol. If she did, I can almost guarantee she'd have caught on.
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Originally posted by iseeyouupsidedown
What kind of mess is this? People aren't allowed to change their minds about things? Marina is not MAKING FUN of anyone by working with Dr. Luke, she has come to the realization that she was being close minded 2 years ago, and has decided to try a new approach. She only worked with Dr. Luke on two songs btw.
Regardless, Gaga deserved to flop but that didn't happen, so we'll see...Those who DESERVE to flop don't necessarily do so, and vice versa.
All of you who won't let go of your ******** idea that she is "making fun" of Katy Perry and Ke$ha by working with Dr. Luke as an excuse to sell out need to educate yourselves. She is doing no such thing... She CHANGED HER MIND about Dr. Luke. She is not being some kind of hypocritical bitch.
edit: while I'm irrationally overreacting to shade, let me just say SHUT UP with the "bandwagon" ****. I've been a marina stan for 2 years. Most Marina stans are not "band wagon". You are contradicting yourself by saying she's flopping, but that she also has a huge bandwagon...If she;s gaining all these new fans, how is she flopping?
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So she suddenly found him more original over the course of the last year? Because when she was making that face like she was about to throw up and calling him ****** and comparing his creative process to a factory she was complaining about his lack of originality.
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Member Since: 8/23/2011
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Originally posted by iseeyouupsidedown
Except she still writes her own lyrics and keeps her goals intact and refuses to sell out to the extent of the other people Dr. Luke has worked with and sing about partying and alcohol. If she did, I can almost guarantee she'd have caught on.
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People wouldn't give her as much **** if she didn't specifically call out Dr. Luke by name. The hypocrisy is crystal diamond clear.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 8,761
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Originally posted by iseeyouupsidedown
What kind of mess is this? People aren't allowed to change their minds about things? Marina is not MAKING FUN of anyone by working with Dr. Luke, she has come to the realization that she was being close minded 2 years ago, and has decided to try a new approach. She only worked with Dr. Luke on two songs btw.
Regardless, Gaga deserved to flop but that didn't happen, so we'll see...Those who DESERVE to flop don't necessarily do so, and vice versa.
All of you who won't let go of your ******** idea that she is "making fun" of Katy Perry and Ke$ha by working with Dr. Luke as an excuse to sell out need to educate yourselves. She is doing no such thing... She CHANGED HER MIND about Dr. Luke. She is not being some kind of hypocritical bitch.
edit: while I'm irrationally overreacting to shade, let me just say SHUT UP with the "bandwagon" ****. I've been a marina stan for 2 years. Most Marina stans are not "band wagon". You are contradicting yourself by saying she's flopping, but that she also has a huge bandwagon...If she;s gaining all these new fans, how is she flopping?
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I see Gaga keeps you pretty occupied. Even bringing her into threads that have nothing to do with her.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
This would only be funny if she were actually making ****** American pop. Which she isn't. Why do y'all hate her so much? She's literally more talented than most of your faves.
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Her voice is an amazing instrument, she just does very little for me as a songwriter.
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Maybe she realized that working with him didn't HAVE to mean being unoriginal. Primadonna STILL doesn't sound like Tik Tok or California Gurls. If it did she probably would've disliked it.
In fairness back then when she said there was no originality, Dr. Luke was being lazy, as evidenced by Tik Tok and California Girls. I thought he was worse back then than I do now as well.
edit: and of course Gaga keeps me occupied.I don't deny that she's an international superstar and has the biggest presence on ATRL...She's incredibly relevant to pop music.I just don't like her.
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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What's so wrong with selling out? She changed her mind.
The difference with her use of Dr. Luke is that she doesn't make annoying, repetitive instrumentals with him. He working with him... makes me actually like him a bit. She knows how to use Luke properly.
She's not being the bad sort of generic -- she's generic in the good way, the kind of way that gets stuck in your head, and you don't want it to get out.
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And what original lyrics? Primadonna is typical Dr Luke: for and about teenage girls.
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Originally posted by Stephen
People wouldn't give her **** if she didn't specifically call out Dr. Luke by name.
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People's perception of Dr. Luke is just warped. The man's a frickin' genius. But a year ago, nobody knew he was capable of making non-****** pop as well. It was a combination of recognizing that she needed a sound change and needing a hit that led her to him, and she as well as the rest of us found out Luke can do things besides ****.
Remember, she said this before Femme Fatale was even named.
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Member Since: 12/24/2010
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Originally posted by Nicole
So she suddenly found him more original over the course of the last year? Because when she was making that face like she was about to throw up and calling him ****** and comparing his creative process to a factory she was complaining about his lack of originality.
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This would explain how unoriginal Electra Heart is. Sure some of the songs are decent, but the concept, sound, and image are all unoriginal and look like excuses to sell out.
If she and her fans are happy with that, then more power to them
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Nicole
And what original lyrics? Primadonna is typical Dr Luke: for and about teenage girls.
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You serious?
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Member Since: 3/9/2012
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Originally posted by Nicole
So she suddenly found him more original over the course of the last year? Because when she was making that face like she was about to throw up and calling him ****** and comparing his creative process to a factory she was complaining about his lack of originality.
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Sis, that's what Fear And Loathing is about.
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
You serious?
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"I'm sad to the core, every day is a chore, when you give I want more
Fill the void up with celluloid"
...Sounds just like American teenage pop to me!!!
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
You serious?
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Young, carefree, sassy, girly. Primadonna Gurls we're unforgettable, fine fresh fierce we got it on lock. It all blends together.
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Originally posted by Nicole
And what original lyrics? Primadonna is typical Dr Luke: for and about teenage girls.
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I legitimately question your intelligence.
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Originally posted by iseeyouupsidedown
"I'm sad to the core, every day is a chore, when you give I want more
Fill the void up with celluloid"
...Sounds just like American teenage pop to me!!!
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
People's perception of Dr. Luke is just warped. The man's a frickin' genius. But a year ago, nobody knew he was capable of making non-****** pop as well. It was a combination of recognizing that she needed a sound change and needing a hit that led her to him, and she as well as the rest of us found out Luke can do things besides ****.
Remember, she said this before Femme Fatale was even named.
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Clock them sis. He is constantly keeping up with this ever so fast change in pace of popular music. We went from electro dance pop to dubstep to Indie sounds in a matter of a few months.
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Member Since: 9/22/2011
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She is making much better music then everyone in the game atm (Except for Kylie and Madonna) , she is flopping cause everyone is into such CRAP music that all sounds like LMFAO. Her comments of DR Luke does not reflect her music style in any way. Why people waste their life stanning for bullrubbish topics like this. NEXT!
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Originally posted by Nicole
Young, carefree, sassy, girly. Primadonna Gurls we're unforgettable, fine fresh fierce we got it on lock. It all blends together.
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What is the sadness and void she is talking about then? Is that just not an important part of the song?
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Nicole
Young, carefree, sassy, girly. Primadonna Gurls we're unforgettable, fine fresh fierce we got it on lock. It all blends together.
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You have no idea what Primadonna is even about
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Originally posted by iseeyouupsidedown
Maybe she realized that working with him didn't HAVE to mean being unoriginal. Primadonna STILL doesn't sound like Tik Tok or California Gurls. If it did she probably would've disliked it.
In fairness back then when she said there was no originality, Dr. Luke was being lazy, as evidenced by Tik Tok and California Girls. I thought he was worse back then than I do now as well.
edit: and of course Gaga keeps me occupied.I don't deny that she's an international superstar and has the biggest presence on ATRL...She's incredibly relevant to pop music.I just don't like her.
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Are you ****ing serious?
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California girls
We're undeniable
Fine, fresh, fierce
We got it on lock
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Primadonna girl fill the void, up with Celluloid
Take a picture, I'm with the boys
Get what I want 'cause I ask for it
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