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Poll: Music News and Groups: The aftermath
View Poll Results: The groups section? YE or NE
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Yes! Keep it open
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No! Shut it down
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Originally posted by Raguabros
If something relevant happens with one artist, it is posted in a New Thread, and then after some time that thread is attached to the official artist thread. Don't see the wrong in it.
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That's part of the problem, actually. These giant threads that we have, they've gotta be part of the reason the server sucks so much. Plus, merging them with other threads every now and then, it takes forever and slows everything down.
Personally I think we'd be better off without those massive threads. Break it up into discussions.
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Member Since: 5/1/2007
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^ But then the Music forum would be as messy as it was before the Official Threads :-/
IDK, I'm like you with the whole Groups thing, I think it is a possibility but I wouldn't be so sure about it
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Yeah, that's the thing. We've never had a consistent system that has worked well, in my opinion.
Groups have improved to the point that actual discussions can go on there, but it would be a matter of promoting them properly. Plus, who decides what's actually "newsworthy" in Music News? How long could threads stay open? Blah, blah, blah. So many things to consider.
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Member Since: 4/6/2007
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I just looked at the Groups thing and I like the improvements. I can't think of a reason why we shouldn't use that section. I vote for the official threads to be gone! Once we define what MUSIC NEWS is and we know what should be posted there, we can move our other topics of discussion to the groups section. Let's try it
So what is MUSIC NEWS?
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Member Since: 5/1/2007
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LOL @ "Interest Groups" tab already gone
IDK, as I said, the thing with groups is that there would be like only 3 or 4 active groups (the now called Official Threads), so I don't know if people would go that section.
Another solution for this problem to be taken into account (though it's probably not the best, idk): Have an artist's "official thread" in each section. I see chart movements posted in Britney's official thread, but if she had one of those in the Charts section, it would be less messy; then for personal news we would have Celebria.
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That could be another way to go about it. BTW, Yahhh!, who knows? That's what we have to figure out. Also, the "Interest" was just renamed "Community", it's the same thing and still there.
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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The Lady Gaga group invites you average ATRLer to join us.
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Member Since: 1/14/2007
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Or we can just ban the Britney fans and therefore get rid of half our threads pretty easily.
Unless you have a better plan, I think they need to be sacrificed for the greater good (which just happens to be in theme with another thread).
Yes I am kidding (sort of).
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Member Since: 5/1/2007
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Originally posted by TC
That could be another way to go about it. BTW, Yahhh!, who knows? That's what we have to figure out. Also, the "Interest" was just renamed "Community", it's the same thing and still there.
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I can't see it At least not everywhere like before, just in the Music section, there's a tab that says "Artists Fan Groups"
If you're gonna go with the Groups, they should be heavily advertised for a while
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Member Since: 10/22/2007
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Originally posted by TC
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wow! It looks so different and nice. I really like the new look.
I think the main reason why people don't use the Group Discussions is that they're like hidden forums and it takes more time to find and then discuss something. So the easiest way is going into the Music News section where you can easily talk whatever you want about the latest music news, videos date releases, etc just by clicking once..
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Member Since: 4/6/2007
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Originally posted by Alexz
The Lady Gaga group invites you average ATRLer to join us.
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Joined.
Did ya'll know you can add pics and comment on them? The Jazmine Sullivan group is growing slowly.
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Member Since: 12/16/2007
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Only popular artists should have "official threads".
i mean, do we really want 100 Threads about music news on Britney, Beyonce, Kelly, etc....its easy to find all the info and updates on one artists if its all in one thread....and its not messy...theres only a few official artist threads right now, and it seems to be going fine.
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Originally posted by CarCAL22
Only popular artists should have "official threads".
i mean, do we really want 100 Threads about music news on Britney, Beyonce, Kelly, etc....its easy to find all the info and updates on one artists if its all in one thread....and its not messy...theres only a few official artist threads right now, and it seems to be going fine.
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Who defines popular then?
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^ It's common sense, I think.
I mean, it's obvious Britney, Kelly and Beyoncé should have their own official threads/active groups.
I think some of the mods have good judgement to decide who should get their own thread.
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Oh and, is it in any way possible to bring back the thing where you clicked the title of an updated thread and it brought you to the latest "official" update post of the thread starter, instead of page 1 of the thread?
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@ CarCal: But you would rather click on the "Britney Spears" group and have all the news neatly organized right? Go on go get started.
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Originally posted by Raguabros
Oh and, is it in any way possible to bring back the thing where you clicked the title of an updated thread and it brought you to the latest "official" update post of the thread starter, instead of page 1 of the thread?
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No, that's impossible ever since we upgraded ATRL last year. That "updated threads" thing was a terrible hack that took me hours and hours AND HOURS to create, and it actually had negative effects on the stability of the site.
Yet another reason to have smaller, more coherent threads instead of these endless, giant threads.
BTW, the links to Groups right now are only on the Music News and The Lounge pages. If we actually decide to do this instead of official threads, you can be sure the Groups would get much more prominent linking on the site.
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Originally posted by Ĺlεx
the easiest way is going into the Music News section where you can easily talk whatever you want about the latest music news, videos date releases, etc just by clicking once..
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Exactly.
Going to the groups section, rolling over a section of bumped pages of every artist that exists, predicting what type of news worthy discussion that is happening about certain artists, clicking on the group, browsing through the topics within the group, then FINALLY entering a discussion of interest. That's just hectic and unnecessarily confusing. This is a message board after all, and it's easier to just ignore some threads when they're in the main music forums. Everything is clear and reachable at one click.
Another issue that I don't think will ever be solved is that you can't really decide what's Groups worthy and what's main forums worthy. That's just gonna be confusing for any thread starter and I'm pretty sure it will end up being posted in the main forums.
As I've always said before, official discussions should be allowed to artists that are popular and with active eras, when it's dead, head to the groups. Common sense and moderation should keep this going fine.
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Member Since: 4/6/2007
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I still say try the groups thing out
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Originally posted by Hard Candy
you can't really decide what's Groups worthy and what's main forums worthy. That's just gonna be confusing for any thread starter and I'm pretty sure it will end up being posted in the main forums
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That's the #1 potential problem with the Groups. If the groups were actual sub-forums, it'd be easier to move messages back and forth, but they're not.
Plus, you know some of the people we deal with here on ATRL, every little thing an artist ever does is BREAKING NEWS, when in reality, we know nobody gives a **** except the stans.
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