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Discussion: Katy v Gaga: More Respect from Public?
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Katy, easily. Gaga's status has been "that weird chick who was popular awhile ago" for a long time now while Katy's brand continues to grow and prosper with each year.
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Originally posted by robotdanger
Which is why Katy has so many grammys right?
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Grammys are not given by the public. So they're irrelevant in regard to the question being asked by the OP.
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Katy's more respected as a person
Gaga's more respected as an artist
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Lady Gaga is much more respected. Katy is seen as a performer who is in her late 20's who still performs for kids. but she runs with that title and cashes it all the way to the bank lol 
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Originally posted by pika
Katy, easily. Gaga's status has been "that weird chick who was popular awhile ago" for a long time now while Katy's brand continues to grow and prosper with each year.
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And what has Katy's status been? Please... 
The general public knows Katy delivers hit after hit, but she's always been eclipsed by everyone else when it comes to acclaim and respect. The fact that Katy is so cookie-cutter and no one bothers to check for her personality outside of her bops says it all, they're only here for her hits and nothing else. I won't exactly say she's a joke but she KCA-level respected and you know it.
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
And what has Katy's status been? Please...
The general public knows Katy delivers hit after hit, but she's always been eclipsed by everyone else when it comes to acclaim and respect. The fact that Katy is so cookie-cutter and no one bothers to check for her personality outside of her bops says it all, they're only here for her hits and nothing else. I won't exactly say she's a joke but she KCA-level respected and you know it. |
Clock a biT 
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Originally posted by Jacobdaniel
Ok but are the grammy committee and the public the same thing? Not trying to be mean, but as a fellow Gaga stan, the whole Grammys thing is so stale when it comes to dragging Katy Kats. It's overused and unnecessary in most situations.
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He said that Gaga has never been respected. We all know how the Grammys work, its nothing but a direct reflection of the GP disguised. As a committee. Katy is only known for her pop hits and nothing else. During her peak, Gaga was known for much more.
Sure, Katy may be respected more now by the GP, but during Gaga's peak, she had something that Katy has never had which was critical & commercial success.
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Katy isn't respected at all. Just because she's successful doesn't mean anyone respects her "talent" or anything else for that matter. There's really not much to respect about her...besides her personality if you're into it, I guess.  Is there any proof any Katy stan has that she's respected outside of sales/success? Nope. 
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
And what has Katy's status been? Please...
The general public knows Katy delivers hit after hit, but she's always been eclipsed by everyone else when it comes to acclaim and respect. The fact that Katy is so cookie-cutter and no one bothers to check for her personality outside of her bops says it all, they're only here for her hits and nothing else. I won't exactly say she's a joke but she KCA-level respected and you know it. |
the public doesn't respect anyone sans Beyonce, so lol to that argument. Gaga is most definitely last on the foodchain with her weird looks & overly produced music (there's a reason her sales decline massively every era).
the point of being an artist is to sell your music, not be tabloid fodder - otherwise we'd all be stanning for Kim Kardashian. it's better to be known for your music since that will keep you going for years instead of attention-seeking one trick ponies that burn out after their peak.
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GaGa obviously. Who actually takes Katy seriously apart from small children?
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Originally posted by pika
the public doesn't respect anyone sans Beyonce, so lol to that argument. Gaga is most definitely last on the foodchain with her weird looks & overly produced music (there's a reason her sales decline massively every era).
the point of being an artist is to sell your music, not be tabloid fodder - otherwise we'd all be stanning for Kim Kardashian. it's better to be known for your music since that will keep you going for years instead of attention-seeking one trick ponies that burn out after their peak.
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The question isn't about the point of being an artist, the question is about who's more respected and saying they only respect Beyoncé is just foolish, I don't know what rock you're living under.
Gaga's costumes are part of her image and her music is what made her interesting during her peak, meanwhile we could say Katy is doing her best right now but who's talking about her? Where are the headlines? Who cares to check for her personality outside of her music? Yes, the hits are there, so are the hitmakers and so is Dr. Luke holding her hand every step of the way.
The point of being manufactured is to sell your music, you got it all wrong. The point of being an "artist" is to express yourself with your music, of course the sales need to be there but Gaga is doing what she wants to do and isn't a label puppet. Will we ever see Katy experiment with an album free of Luke? Or are we to scared to see the commercial success vanish right away? Gaga has shown a big decline, yes, but the fact that her peak was bigger and more remembered than all of Katy's quick hits, wow...It speaks volumes 
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The GP respected Katy enough to make sure to go out and buy her album so her. Gaga's not respected, she's seen as a joke actually. Katy is loved by many, kids, young and elderly people.
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Originally posted by Ainsworth
Katy!  |
Why was this reported? 
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Originally posted by YonceIsFierce
Why was this reported? |
There was an edit you didn't catch
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
The question isn't about the point of being an artist, the question is about who's more respected and saying they only respect Beyoncé is just foolish, I don't know what rock you're living under.
Gaga's costumes are part of her image and her music is what made her interesting during her peak, meanwhile we could say Katy is doing her best right now but who's talking about her? Where are the headlines? Who cares to check for her personality outside of her music? Yes, the hits are there, so are the hitmakers and so is Dr. Luke holding her hand every step of the way.
The point of being manufactured is to sell your music, you got it all wrong. The point of being an "artist" is to express yourself with your music, of course the sales need to be there but Gaga is doing what she wants to do and isn't a label puppet. Will we ever see Katy experiment with an album free of Luke? Or are we to scared to see the commercial success vanish right away? Gaga has shown a big decline, yes, but the fact that her peak was bigger and more remembered than all of Katy's quick hits, wow...It speaks volumes |
you keep referring to Gaga's peak when this thread is about respect right now. furthermore, the question wasn't who gets the most headlines (don't know WHERE that ties into respect but clearly you're using it as some pathetic crutch to ~shade). if Katy wanted to be controversial, she can. it was easy enough with I Kissed a Girl. it's not her fault she decided to nurture her brand and not rely off media attention like others.
The first and most important point of an artist signed to a major label is to sell your music, bring in revenue & produce profit for your label - they could care less about musical integrity.
and lastly LOL @ Katy being a label puppet when her label switched DWUW as the next single when it charted decently WW and forcing her to put Applause on the album cause it was the "biggest hit sounding song" not to mention Akon threw Gaga out of his life once she started dropping in numbers. Gaga is seen and treated like a label puppet as much as the next person. Katy on the other hand got Unconditionally as the 2nd single because she wanted to - with full backup from her label despite it's underperformance. shut
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Gaga is more respected by critics and Katy more liked by the GP. I don't know how the GP feels about Gaga right now. The use to like her and now I don't think they understand her.
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
Katy is seen more as a sweet girl than Gaga. The general public likes things that can be easily digested and that's what Katy delivers, and they like it. Gaga is a little bit too much for them, but I love Gaga that way for being different, standing out and not conforming to the public's standards.
But honestly I'd say Gaga has more respect and recognition in the music industry which is what matters, but as far as the general buyer is concerned, if you're more conservative you'll go for Katy while the wild ones usually use Gaga more. Overall, I'll say Katy.
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tbh
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
Not that I would expect anything less from the Kats...but what idiotic logic they're bringing up. All of a sudden because Katy outperformed Gaga for once in her career Gaga is suddenly a joke, has lost all respect, and is completely over. So Katy is more respected than anyone who has sold less than her (even though Gaga's overall sales still surpass Miss Perry's)? LMAO the jokes just write themselves. The way they spew out sales constantly you would think she would be selling Adele numbers. I know they have no other response though so I just have to feel a bit bad. |
I personally think some of the monsters are being a tad bit sensitive lately, and yes I know I'm a hive member but we're always sensitive and always will be. The bottom line is Gaga was humbled after the lack of success of Artpop(you would think her stans would be too). The GP public simply isn't here for her right now. I think there is something to be said for being seen as a good role model to kids and that's how the GP see's Katy. It may not be "cool" or "hip" to be seen that way but it has earned the respect of the people who actually matter most, the record buyers.
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Originally posted by YonceIsFierce
I personally think some of the monsters are being a tad bit sensitive lately, and yes I know I'm a hive member but we're always sensitive and always will be. The bottom line is Gaga was humbled after the lack of success of Artpop(you would think her stans would be too). The GP public simply isn't here for her right now. I think there is something to be said for being seen as a good role model to kids and that's how the GP see's Katy. It may not be "cool" or "hip" to be seen that way but it has earned the respect of the people who actually matter most, the record buyers.
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 Lame monster shade...moving on. Gaga has still sold more records overall so this blabbing on and on about sales and acting like it favors Katy is quite idiotic anyway but even if Katy had eclipsed Gaga's overall sales please tell me how that equates to her being more respected? You can respect an artist and choose to not buy their music. By the same token there are tons of people who buy album just because they enjoy the music and nothing more. "respect" really isn't a big part of album buying most of the time. It's a hard thing to gauge...but I definitely don't think sales is an appropriate way of judging it. Gaga's critical acclaim speaks for itself and shows that she at least has a decent amount of respect. Katy has no critical acclaim and sells because she knows what the public wants and she gives it to them.
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
Of course you would be here
Sad thing is, whether you like it or not, Gaga has respect in the music industry and among the general public, not to mention the fashion industry and more...But keep trying  |
How do you figure gaga has respect in the music Industry and the GP. The respect she has in the GP is only due to overhyping herself. She's written 3 songs in her solo career totally alone. She has 3 US number 1 hits. She has a great vocal range but let's face it, it's nothing like Adele, Xtina, Mariah etc
I mean, her talents have not manifested themselves yet to their full potential. Of course they havn't. It's been 6 years. When you say to the GP gaga only has 3 number 1's - they're shocked because the girl overhypes her success. - The music industry certainly don't respect the stats I just mentioned when there are people with extraordinary talent involved.
Katy Perry on the other hand has had much more success musically (not awards) and is known by the GP as a HIT MAKER. In terms of respect, it's certainly Katy.
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