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Poll: Is ARTPOP unfairly criticised here on ATRL?
View Poll Results: Is ARTPOP unfairly critised?
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Yes, get's way too much hate
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42.76% |
Kind of, it deserves some of the criticism
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18.42% |
No, it deserves its criticism etc
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38.82% |
Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 6,922
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Originally posted by MusicLoverDude
Even Britney Jean is better than it .
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 8,761
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Gaga was the biggest and best thing to happen to pop music in a long time. Because of that, I think people had lofty expectations for the album and it under-delivered a bit imo. Of course things like this are amplified on ATRL, but I think the fact that it's all most people could (and still do, for some sick reason) talk about is because her previous albums were so good.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 3,043
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It's not as horrible as people make it out to be. If it were that bad, then I wonder why some of you stan for your faves then. ![rolleyes](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) Although, Swine and JnD are still her worst songs ever. It's Gaga's worst album, but is not as trash as some of your faves' albums.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 8,761
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Originally posted by MusicLoverDude
Even Britney Jean is better than it.
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Cringing.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
Posts: 29,579
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Originally posted by Sam
Not at all, it's actually way too overpraised on ATRL still. I thought by now the majority of Monsters would have finally admitted how horrible it really is, but I guess some things never change.
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It's so funny how they try to make the entire ARTPOP era into some Gaga vs The World type of thing. "The GP just couldn't understand it ![:'(](images/smilies/images/smilies/cry.gif) " ![lmao](http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/lmao.gif)
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Member Since: 1/7/2014
Posts: 4,510
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Originally posted by Sam
Not at all, it's actually way too overpraised on ATRL still. I thought by now the majority of Monsters would have finally admitted how horrible it really is, but I guess some things never change.
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You sound bitter that literally no one here uses "Warrior." Now THAT was trash.
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
Posts: 19,555
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Yes. Had all the single eras gone perfect people would say it's her best album.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 1,217
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I think it's a great album but just very of it's time, Donatella, Aura (despite a thumper of a chorus), Swine all sound like your standard 2012 electro, dance pop, dubstep etc trap and 70's guitar driven disco were big at the time so that's why we have the 'okay' Sexxx Dreams and Fashion!, the 'god awful' Jewels N' Drugs and the universally acclaimed masterpiece Do What U Want...
Then you have a slew of filler (ranges from meh to okay) like Mary Jane Holland. Artpop, Manicure, Gypsy and your standard formulaic Gaga ballad, (with the strangest vocal delivery she's ever put out on a track) 'Dope'
But then you have the gems like the zaney as f*ck 'Venus', the perfectly polished, sex pop track 'G.U.Y.'. and pop perfection in a nutshell with Applause - that songs chorus is absolutely everything.
This is of course my analysis, people saying "you can't deny X" fail to acknowledge that any music can be criticised positively or negatively just so long as there is credence and evidence as to why that person thinks that record is good or bad...
But don't confuse quality with sales figures... Bionic is a good album, 4 is a good album, Blackout is a good album, Rated R is a good album... ARTPOP (in my mind) is a good album too, but it's not going to age well...
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
Posts: 55,134
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Um yea . The album isn't even bad . It's the only Gaga album I can listen to from beginning to end . It's my personal favorite and it has a place in my heart ..
And everyone knows had Artpop slayed more ATRL would have praised it to the high heavens .. This forum only stans for commercial success
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
Posts: 3,674
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Originally posted by ALA
Yes. Had all the single eras gone perfect people would say it's her best album.
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LOL NO
i definitely ****in wouldnt
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Um yea . The album isn't even bad . It's the only Gaga album I can listen to from beginning to end . It's my personal favorite and it has a place in my heart ..
And everyone knows had Artpop slayed more ATRL would have praised it to the high heavens .. This forum only stans for commercial success
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Member Since: 10/18/2010
Posts: 29,224
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Yeah. It's actually an amazing EDM album. Lyrically, it's good. Musically, it's great.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 21,143
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It's not my favorite. It sucks.
Edit: that's too harsh of me. It's usable and slightly better than your average pop album.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
Posts: 15,668
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I mean it's a terrible album. But nowhere near as bad as the generic filler-full albums by artists like Selena, Demi, Britney, etc.
At least ARTPOP tries unlike her peers. Still nowhere near the level that pop albums like PRISM or 1989 are.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
Posts: 7,827
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It is a truly terrible album. There are but two good songs--and even they aren't great. It's so bad
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 13,381
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Yes! People try to drag it only because it under performed even though it sold fine
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
Posts: 7,827
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Originally posted by MattyTacos
Yes! People try to drag it only because it under performed even though it sold fine
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Not true, even slightly. You can use any excuse you want, that people only hate it because it didn't sell well. In the grand scheme of things, it is dragged because it's a horrific album
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 13,381
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
Not true, even slightly. You can use any excuse you want, that people only hate it because it didn't sell well. In the grand scheme of things, it is dragged because it's a horrific album
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I'm sorry but it's true that ATRL stans for success. They will hop onto something if it's popular, if it isn't they abandon it. ARTPOP didn't sell as much as they wanted it too (even though it sold fine) but it wasn't good enough for ATRL sadly. It's truly a great album, not her best, but it has a lot of gems.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 1,217
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In a parallel universe were Prism had bombed and ARTPOP had sold well opinions with regards to the quality of it's musical content would be VERY different...
When ARTPOP gets it right, it REALLY gets it right. This was still music coming from the same woman that gave us TFM for crying out loud.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
Posts: 7,827
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Originally posted by MattyTacos
I'm sorry but it's true that ATRL stans for success. They will hop onto something if it's popular, if it isn't they abandon it. ARTPOP didn't sell as much as they wanted it too (even though it sold fine) but it wasn't good enough for ATRL sadly. It's truly a great album, not her best, but it has a lot of gems.
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It is not a great album, though. Plain and simple. It is a sea of terrible, nonsensical songs covering up a few good songs
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Member Since: 10/18/2010
Posts: 29,224
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
Not true, even slightly. You can use any excuse you want, that people only hate it because it didn't sell well. In the grand scheme of things, it is dragged because it's a horrific album
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You're only saying it's a horrific album because it's not the style you like. EDM is not a genre that everyone can like on first listen. It's a genre you either hate it or you love it, there's no in-between. You seem dead-set on not liking the genre, so, entail, you hate the album… it has nothing to do with the quality being bad, it's about disliking a genre you cannot like. If you gave me a country or metal or hard rock album and told me, "this is a great album; there's a song in there for everyone," I listened to it and immediately said, "nah, that's straight up garbage," I'd get so much flack for saying that. I wouldn't say that, I would say, "Nah, that's not my style. Maybe for someone else," because that's how I feel: they're genres that don't fit me, and I can't get into them. Judging by your sig, that's EXACTLY why you call ARTPOP a horrific album…
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