[seaɴ.]

I remember when I got in trouble for leaning against the wall in an art gallery, it turned out I was sitting on a bunch of black dotted wall paper, such a masterpiece!

[olympiccairways]

Duchamp's urinal is stupid

[nills]

And they pay thousand for this crap, smh. I think it's a secret scam between 'artists' trying to see how much they can get away with by doing so little.

[Heisenberg]

yes, that is one thing that turned me off Lady Gaga.. especially during the BTW era

[JonnyϟLightning]

Originally posted by VANdeliciousss

Because in the age of the camera one has to reevaluate what "art" is for the 21st century and begin to redefine it.
Why try to paint photo-realism when people have cameras?

The dramatic changes in what art was began around the time of Picasso
and progressed with people like Andy Warhol and has continued till today.

I'm sure people didn't consider this art back then.

I'm on the fence on Warhol.. his videos DEFINITELY were not artistic. Like the sleeping one or the one where the guy gets a blow job...

His Pop Art pieces are... eh for better or for worse... famous. I'll leave it at that.
and a lot of artists are still making amazing art like this:



Unlike this mess:

[jomarr]

I remember the Museum Scene in 500 days of summer



I can't find the poop one but it's absolutely hilarious

[Kang.]

Originally posted by jomarr

I didn't know a white dot can be art and is it warned because it's "too deep to understand"?

hmm, must be 2deep4u.

[primo.]

Art is purely subjective, always has been. What you made find silly, someone else may find brilliant.

[Devon]

Originally posted by primo.

Art is purely subjective, always have been. What you made find silly, someone else may find brilliant.

But corn scattered over a violin You have to be a delusional hipster to think it's "brilliant"

[jomarr]

Originally posted by Muggwa

hmm, must be 2deep4u.

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by FelixMonster

yes but at least he took the time do the process of screening, not fill a violin with popcorn

So maybe that's one thing that defines art for you. The labor that goes into it?
So would you consider this piece art?

Tom Friedman
1,000 Hours of Staring
1992-97
stare on paper
32 1/2 x 32 1/2 in.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...ring%22&st=nyt

Tom Friedman stared at this "piece" for 1,000 hours. That's a lot of work to put into a piece.
I think it's beautiful.

[Stevie]

I love modern art, but yeah, some of it is just ridiculous. Andy Warhol was BRILLIANT though.

[Sanctuary]

Wasn't Dadaism (the movement Duchamp and the urinal come from) actually meant to **** with pretentious art critics? The dude literally ripped a bidet off of a wall, signed it, and a museum payed millions for it because he was famous. I don't think it was ever meant to be taken completely at face value as "art" in the first place. Some people do too much though.

[JonnyϟLightning]

Originally posted by VANdeliciousss

So maybe that's one thing that defines art for you. The labor that goes into it?
So would you consider this piece art?

Tom Friedman stared at this "piece" for 1,000 hours. That's a lot of work to put into a piece.
I think it's beautiful.

How is staring at something a lot of work?

[Kang.]

Originally posted by primo.

Art is purely subjective, always have been. What you made find silly, someone else may find brilliant.

I agree, but I also think people overdo it for no reason. There are pieces out there — not necessarily anything in this thread or the OP, but in general — that are by definition pretentious. That annoys me.

[Vin]

I don't really have a problem with "pretentious art," which, by the way, is subjective. What I have a problem with is disingenuous "pretentious art." There's one person who is a real big example of that. Art does not need to be understood by everyone, but when an artist isn't honest about what their art means, and instead, is putting out an art piece, just for the sake or controversy or attention or... money, then the art is not only "pretentious," but also dishonest. I would highly advise you watch the Banksy documentary, "Exit Through The Gift Shop," Jonathan.

[primo.]

Originally posted by Devon

But corn scattered over a violin You have to be a delusional hipster to think it's "brilliant"

It's no different from music, we all have different musical tastes and different things that please our ear. No one sound (or piece of art) effects each person the same.

[iHooker]

Originally posted by VANdeliciousss

So maybe that's one thing that defines art for you. The labor that goes into it?
So would you consider this piece art?

Tom Friedman stared at this "piece" for 1,000 hours. That's a lot of work to put into a piece.
I think it's beautiful.

what an idiot
(not you, the guy who did that)

[jomarr]

Originally posted by VANdeliciousss

So maybe that's one thing that defines art for you. The labor that goes into it?
So would you consider this piece art?

Tom Friedman stared at this "piece" for 1,000 hours. That's a lot of work to put into a piece.
I think it's beautiful.

DEATH.

[stoopidjenna]

I remember watching a special of like 20/20 or something where they had little kids splatter paint on boards and gave them to people to estimate their value and they were all giving numbers in the hundred thousands