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Discussion: If Aaliyah were alive, would she have Ciara's career?
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No. She'd be as relevant as Ashanti and Keyshia Cole, tbh.
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Originally posted by Theus
People love to say that self titled was flopping went it was her fastest selling effort yet At least do some research before trying to drag
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the lies
the opening week was her biggest (not saying much), but it's sales were slow until the publicity from her death
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Aaliyah debuted at number two on the Billboard 200 and sold 187,000 copies in the week of August 4, 2001. Although it was the highest sales week of Aaliyah's career, the record initially sold slower than her previous album One in a Million.
The album's sales skyrocketed after Aaliyah's death. Before her death, its sales had been diminishing since the album's release in July and stood at more than 447,000 copies sold. News of her death was reported on the last day of Nielsen SoundScan's sales tracking week, during which Aaliyah sold 62,000 copies, a 41.5% increase from its past week's sales. The following week, it sold 305,500 copies and ascended to number one on the Billboard 200.
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Originally posted by Theus
People love to say that self titled was flopping went it was her fastest selling effort yet At least do some research before trying to drag
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right. Not a surprise that Legend still has this amount of haters LYING for no reason or research.
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Member Since: 8/11/2012
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00's she would have had it on lock but like any female artist I think she probably would have cooled at this point musically but it's also hard to tell because she always wanted to do so many different genres I truly think she would have been a consistently aclaimed artist releasing amazing challenging forward thinking music.
Also girls, her natural beauty and acting talent was great and her potential was huge she had major players like Joel Silver pushing for her to become a major actress and that I have no doubt would have happened and lead to endorsements, campaigns etc it's just so funny to me that people really believe a classic beauty and talent like Aaliyah would have flopped into oblivion when every single person in the industry was mesmerized by her including your faves. And unlike Monica and Brandy (who are amazing and their past albums still have me BOPPING) peaked in the 90's Aaliyah was always a consistent gainer kind of like a Rihanna only getting more success with each hit, album, soundtrack contribution then leading into becoming a starring actress (the other girls did not have her potential Brandy did some cute actings things but that was also at her peak but she was never headed for lead actress Hollywood status that Aaliyah was clearly serving) so.........?
Don't stress so much, she is still talked about to this day and still gaining new fans that should tell you all something
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Originally posted by hot mess
the lies
the opening week was her biggest (not saying much), but it's sales were slow until the publicity from her death
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Do you realize that this was still a lot more than One In A Million did on its first weeks too? Aaliyah was a slow seller, take a look at her other two albums chart runs.
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Originally posted by hot mess
the lies
the opening week was her biggest (not saying much), but it's sales were slow until the publicity from her death
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All of her albums were slow sellers and obviously when someone dies sales go up, it's not her fault ppl cared enough to buy the album unlike some other acts that had untimely deaths.
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Originally posted by Theus
Do you realize that this was still a lot more than One In A Million did on its first weeks too? Aaliyah was a slow seller, take a look at her other two albums chart runs.
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They are a mess, OIAM debuted at #17 or some abysmal number of the sort but spawned several successful singles and went double platinum and the impact of that era is still felt also the music was just stellar, why do these girls try it?
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Wow, Ciara's such a legend
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Originally posted by EnoughSaid
00's she would have had it on lock but like any female artist I think she probably would have cooled at this point musically but it's also hard to tell because she always wanted to do so many different genres I truly think she would have been a consistently aclaimed artist releasing amazing challenging forward thinking music.
Also girls, her natural beauty and acting talent was great and her potential was huge she had major players like Joel Silver pushing for her to become a major actress and that I have no doubt would have happened and lead to endorsements, campaigns etc it's just so funny to me that people really believe a classic beauty and talent like Aaliyah would have flopped into oblivion when every single person in the industry was mesmerized by her including your faves. And unlike Monica and Brandy (who are amazing and their past albums still have me BOPPING) peaked in the 90's Aaliyah was always a consistent gainer kind of like a Rihanna only getting more success with each hit, album, soundtrack contribution then leading into becoming a starring actress (the other girls did not have her potential Brandy did some cute actings things but that was also at her peak but she was never headed for lead actress Hollywood status that Aaliyah was clearly serving) so.........?
Don't stress so much, she is still talked about to this day and still gaining new fans that should tell you all something
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THIS GOOD LIPTON THO.
Clearly, if she had Matthew Knowles, Brandy's mom or Mottola managing her with cut throat teas and not a FLOP label she would've been bigger based on her looks ALONE. So for the girls to try it when their faves who were SO MUCH BIGGER1!1!1 STAN it's a bit ridiculous.
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well she was already established and successful before she passed away so idk why she would be compared with ciara, a new artist, surely a brandy/monica/destiny's child comparison would have been more suitable?
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Originally posted by FantasyRide
well she was already established and successful before she passed away so idk why she would be compared with ciara, a new artist, surely a brandy/monica/destiny's child comparison would have been more suitable?
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Barely, she didn't peak in the 90s like Bran/Mo and DC was a group.
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by Theus
Do you realize that this was still a lot more than One In A Million did on its first weeks too? Aaliyah was a slow seller, take a look at her other two albums chart runs.
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you do realize that those numbers are really bad in that sales climate... the album sold 2.9 million copies in total and 83% of that came after publicity from her death
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
All of her albums were slow sellers and obviously when someone dies sales go up, it's not her fault ppl cared enough to buy the album unlike some other acts that had untimely deaths.
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i don't know any other recent acts who had untimely deaths so that was random......
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Originally posted by EnoughSaid
They are a mess, OIAM debuted at #17 or some abysmal number of the sort but spawned several successful singles and went double platinum and the impact of that era is still felt also the music was just stellar, why do these girls try it?
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none of the 3 singles were hits and good music doesn't mean it's commercially successful
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She'd be more successful than Beyoncé.
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Originally posted by DayFusion
She'd be more successful than Beyoncé.
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Originally posted by hot mess
you do realize that those numbers are really bad in that sales climate... the album sold 2.9 million copies in total and 83% of that came after publicity from her death
i don't know any other recent acts who had untimely deaths so that was random......
none of the 3 singles were hits and good music doesn't mean it's commercially successful
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GIRL! One In a Million, If Your Girl Only Knew both #1 at urban and TOIGMHT went #9 on BB Hot 100, IYGOK went #11 and this is a time that Hot 100 was not a great reflection because a lot of songs couldn't chart if they weren't released comercially as singles, Britney the biggest artist alive at the time didn't get a single #1 post BOMT until Womanizer? Do you think that means a damn? Artists pushed their albums and got hits on top 40, airplay charts which Aaliyah charted with all her singles
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Originally posted by hot mess
you do realize that those numbers are really bad in that sales climate... the album sold 2.9 million copies in total and 83% of that came after publicity from her death
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Uh no and you are still ignoring everything said about her being a slow seller. To compare One In A Million opened with 40k in 1997 and it had a legit hit (If Your Girl Only Knew) when it got released unlike self titled which sold more than OIAM did despite We Need A Resolution doing poorly on charts and it was stable at the top 20 of the Billboard 200 before her death, unlike One In A Million.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by hot mess
you do realize that those numbers are really bad in that sales climate... the album sold 2.9 million copies in total and 83% of that came after publicity from her death
i don't know any other recent acts who had untimely deaths so that was random......
none of the 3 singles were hits and good music doesn't mean it's commercially successful
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The ENTIRE era was a mess on a FLOP label that could barely afford certs + flop singles + didnt she DIE early in the era so SHOULDNT have sold more after her death + IC4U came out a year later and it's out of print and not available to buy anywhere in over half a decade.
I wasn't speaking on "recent" acts, I meant in general.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
Barely, she didn't peak in the 90s like Bran/Mo and DC was a group.
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i think she would've had a more steady longevity than her contemporaries at the time.
her branching out into movies would've helped her star rise, wasn't she signed on to do The Matrix movies?
soon she would've had time to get out of any deal she didn't really see as lucrative/get a new team. plus timbo/missy were huge around the 2000s and probably would've given her their best work.
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