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Stats: Janet Jackson § The 1814s
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Some people dare to call Damita Jo a flop were it menaged to go Platinum
Discipline was did WRONG
Her total #'s are very impressive
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Originally posted by Mr. Fahrenheit
Control could have outsold True Blue in '86/'87, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should be certified 7x Platinum, as True Blue was certified 7x Platinum in 1995. Meanwhile, Control was certified 5x Platinum in 1989. You see what I mean about the dates? Albums are often updated with certifications years after release. The fact that one album outsold another at release does not mean for certain that it has outsold another album in the long-term.
Janet doesn't seem to have too big a problem with that though. The last certifications for Control and Rhythm Nation were in 1989 and 1992 respectively, so adding the Soundscan sales to those certifications would be more accurate than omitting them. Whereas if I did the same for The Immaculate Collection (released in 1990 and certified Diamond in 2001) it would clearly be wrong.
I'm just trying to help, for the sake of accuracy.
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Considering that is true, because I see what you're saying, you also have to account for other factors. While TB has scanned 600k to Control's 505k (2012 and 2011 stats respectively), Control has sold nearly three times as much thru Sony BMG, 300k to 883k. Nevertheless "Control" has surpassed the 6x platinum threshold, so it's at least that. Considering other factors, 7x platinum isn't a reach.
I don't think Janet, or the label, really care about these certifications tbh. They haven't been updated in years and the outlook isn't too promising.
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The worldwide album sales are EXTREMELY off. By a good 3-4m for the majority of her albums
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Originally posted by Genocide
The worldwide album sales are EXTREMELY off. By a good 3-4m for the majority of her albums
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According to what? Mediatraffic?
Be gone
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Originally posted by Imogene
Some people dare to call Damita Jo a flop were it menaged to go Platinum
Discipline was did WRONG
Her total #'s are very impressive
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Well Platinum was considered a flop for a major artist in 2004
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Originally posted by tcweh
According to what? Mediatraffic?
Be gone
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Honey, the estimates on the front page are from Wikipedia - I repeat, WIKIPEDIA. Don't yap at me about liability when you clearly fail to see the OP isn't so profound in that field either. I don't even use Mediatraffic much, but I'd rather use that other the overly-inflated figures on the front page . I'm just pointing out what everyone else has already done - over inflation.
Janet never sold well outside the states to begin with, so albums like Control and RN selling fourteen million worldwide, when both albums went platinum in less than four countries outside the states, is just past the point of reaching.
But I'll leave this here (I'll update with more later since I'm tired now) Janet's sales in France ; 2,539,498 records overall
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Originally posted by Genocide
Honey, the estimates on the front page are from Wikipedia - I repeat, WIKIPEDIA. Don't yap at me about liability when you clearly fail to see the OP isn't so profound in that field either. I don't even use Mediatraffic much, but I'd rather use that other the overly-inflated figures on the front page . I'm just pointing out what everyone else has already done - over inflation.
Janet never sold well outside the states to begin with, so albums like Control and RN selling fourteen million worldwide, when both albums went platinum in less than four countries outside the states, is just past the point of reaching.
But I'll leave this here (I'll update with more later since I'm tired now) Janet's sales in France ; 2,539,498 records overall
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You don't even use mediatraffic? That's funny, i could have sworn a few months ago i remember you saying that's the only source you use regarding success.
And wikipedia's info is SOURCED, that's what the[*] is for next to the sales of an artist, click on that and it will lead you to the source. Mediatraffic is useless and no one takes it seriously outside of this forum
Not you saying she's never sold well outside the states and basing that claim on DATED certifications, oh God. Soundscan proves that she is criminally undercertfied in the USA, and since she isn't updating her certifications stateside, common sense would show she is undercertified EVERYWHERE!
And no, do not bother coming back, we don't want your delusion in this thread
Back on topic, i look forward to seeing the rest Lately 1814
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Originally posted by tcweh
You don't even use mediatraffic? That's funny, i could have sworn a few months ago i remember you saying that's the only source you use regarding success.
And wikipedia's info is SOURCED, that's what the[*] is for next to the sales of an artist, click on that and it will lead you to the source. Mediatraffic is useless and no one takes it seriously outside of this forum
Not you saying she's never sold well outside the states and basing that claim on DATED certifications, oh God. Sound scan proves that she is criminally undercertfied in the USA, and since she isn't updating her certifications stateside, common sense would show she is undercertified EVERYWHERE!
As i said before be gone, no one want's your delusion here
Back on topic, i look forward to seeing the rest Lately 1814
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And this is precisely why I have ZERO sympathy. You are on the information superhighway. There is no valid reason for you to be being stupid on the Internet. And the fact that the information is extrapolated from valid sources (press releases from the artist's label, Billboard, SoundScan, and RIAA) which are posted, might I add, is what makes me less concerned about the accuracy of the numbers and more concerned about a person's ability to read and comprehend.
But lest we not be delayed....
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All you trolls need to fall back. No one can truly track worldwide sales and Janet is one of the most undercertified legends.
Janet has easily sold over 130 million records worldwide.
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Also you didn't add her dvd/vhs sales or tour reciepts.
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*these are based off estimated shipments with added digital sales. The first number is the estimated shipped amount (physical CD single), the first number in parenthesis is the RIAA certification, and the last number in parenthesis is the amount sold digitally
Singles
Janet Jackson & Dream Street era
Young Love - 170,000
Come Give Your Love To Me - 190,000
= 360,000
Control Era
WHYDFML - 900,000 (Gold)
Nasty - 950,000 (Gold)
WITOY - 900,000 (Gold)
Control - 850,000 (Gold)
LWA - 900,000 (uncertified)
TPP - 500,000 (uncertified)
= 5,000,000
Rhythm Nation 1814 Era
MYM - 1,300,000 (Platinum)
RN - 900,000 (Gold)
Escapade - 1,000,000 (Gold)
Alright - 650,000 (Gold)
Come Back To Me - 550,000 (uncertified)
Black Cat - 800,000 (Gold)
LWDN (WY) - 700,000 (Gold)
TBTILAF - 400,000 (uncertified)
= 6,300,000
janet. Era
TTWLG - 1,400,000 (certified platinum) (+242,000 digital) (1,642,000 physical + digital)
If - 900,000 (certified gold) (+212,000 digital) (1,112,000 physical + digital)
Again - 1,450,000 (certified platinum)
ATAP - 750,000 (certified gold)
BOL - 300,000 (uncertified)
YWT - 550,000 (certified gold)
= 5,804,000
Design of A Decade Era
Runaway - 1,100,000 (gold)
Scream - 1,000,000 (certified platinum) (+187,629 digital) (1,187,629 physical + digital)
= 2,287,629
Velvet Rope Era
TA - 1,500,000 (gold)
IGL - 1,110,000 (gold)
WIGB feat. Janet - 1,050,000 (gold)
Boyfriend/Girlfriend - 200,000
= 3,860,000
All For You Era
DRM - 800,000 (certified gold)
DRM (EP) - 5,000
AFY - 600,000 (+235,000 digital) (AFY is uncertified, but Billboard said it was gold when Janet was honored in 2001) (835,000 physical + digital)
STCML - 350,000 (uncertified)
SOAG - 11,500 (digital)/15,000 (physical) (uncertified) (26,000 physical + digital)
= 2,016,000
Damita Jo Era
JALW - 10,000 (physical)/4,500 (digital) (14,500 physical + digital)
IWY - 1,000,000 (certified platinum)
AN(DS) - 4,000
= 1,008,500
20 Y.O. Era
COM - 179,000 (+60,000 physical) (239,000 physical + digital)
SEX - 105,000 (digital)
WU - 4,000 (digital)
= 332,000
Discipline Era
Feedback - 822,000 (digital)
Rock With U - 23,230
Luv - 8,470
= 853,700
Total estimated U.S. single sales = 28,317,829
Using the estimated figures, Janet is 1,682,171 singles away from an even 30,000,000 singles sold in the US. Physical and digital singles that are unaccounted for should cover the residual amount.
Receipts:
http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumd...ist&perPage=25
http://www.billboard.com/column-char...04124554.story
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18015
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopi...279501#2279501
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopi...528813#2528813
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1588578
Janet's total estimated U.S. record sales = 66,500,913
When you add in other shipped albums and singles (physical + digital for both formats), 70,000,000 records stateside is a safe estimate.
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Originally posted by FreeXone
Also you didn't add her dvd/vhs sales
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VHS/DVD
Gold - 50,000 Platinum - 100,000 Multi-platinum - 200,000 ( http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum....ector=criteria)
CONTROL - THE VIDEOS - Platinum
CONTROL - THE VIDEOS PART II - Gold
= 150,000
RHYTHM NATION 1814 - 2x multi-platinum
RHYTHM NATION COMPILATION - Platinum
= 300,000
janet. (Home Video) 66,900 (01/2006)
= 66,900
DESIGN OF A DECADE - Gold
= 50,000
The Velvet Rope Tour (VHS) 134,000 (05/08/2007)
The Velvet Rope Tour (DVD) 29,000 (05/08/2007)
Collector's Edition (The Velvet Rope Tour/Live in Hawaii) (DVD) 27,000 (05/08/2007)
= 190,000
Janet: Live in Hawaii (Home Video) 122,000 (01/2006)
= 122,000
From janet. to Damita Jo (Home Video) 42,000 (01/2006)
= 42,000
Total U.S. VHS/DVD sales = 920,900
The RIAA has the RN1814 VHS listed as 2x multi-platinum. It's not clear if that's 2x multi-platinum (200,000) or if that's 2 times multi-platinum (400,000). If it's the latter, total VHS/DVD sales are 1,120,900.
Receipts:
http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumd...ist&perPage=25
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopi...279501#2279501
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a true legend
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Originally posted by FreeXone
Also you didn't add her dvd/vhs sales or tour reciepts.
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Be patient, he's going through it all gradually sis.
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I'm still so annoyed about her blacklist. The Superbowl really ruined her career.
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Originally posted by MichaelPhillipz
I'm still so annoyed about her blacklist.
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You ain't the only one. Her record company's aren't helping either by leaving her grossely undercertified
26 million certified when she should be in the 50's-60's
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