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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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That twitter account is the equivalent of one of you guys running a hate blog on Tumblr for one of your least favorite pop stars.
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I am so ready for the primaries to be over. This primary season has become hostile it's entirely aggravating. I agree with Sanders on most issues, but both Hillary and Bernie supporters have demonized the other side (I know I have myself). I could rant and say that Bernie fans started it when it comes to me because they were the ones to harass me for my opinion on Facebook or real life, etc. etc. But, it doesn't matter anymore.
Regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination (though I strongly hope it ends up being Hillary), that nominee will get my support. I'll admit, if Bernie gets the nomination, I will not vote for him happily. I will not enjoy it in the slightest because he doesn't have my confidence to be a good president, and I don't expect Bernie supporters to be any differently if Hillary wins. But, we have to come together at the end of the primary to make sure that the nominee defeats the Republican candidate.
#BernieOrBust terrifies me (if #HillaryOrBust is a thing, then that terrifies me as well, I've just yet to hear it) because this election is NOT the time to pull this out. We are in such a critical moment in our history with foreign relations and domestic issues and a Republican president in the vein of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would destroy this country.
Bernie and Hillary supporters share more opinions than we have differences. We mainly differ in who we think has the better approach to accomplish the change we mostly agree on needs to take place. I don't understand where the hostility is coming from. All I hope is that both sides come together when the nominee is chosen so that we can go on to defeat the Republican nominee.
Bernsters and HillaryHens...
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Bloo
I am so ready for the primary to be over. This primaries has become hostile it's entirely aggravating. I agree with Sanders on most issues, but both Hillary and Bernie supporters have demonized the other side (I know I have myself). I could rant and say that Bernie fans started it when it comes to me because they were the ones to harass me for my opinion on Facebook or real life, etc. etc. But, it doesn't matter anymore.
Regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination (though I strongly hope it ends up being Hillary), that nominee will get my support. I'll admit, if Bernie gets the nomination, I will not vote for him happily. I will not enjoy it in the slightest because he doesn't have my confidence to be a good president, and I don't expect Bernie supporters to be any differently if Hillary wins. But, we have to come together at the end of the primary to make sure that the nominee defeats the Republican candidate.
#BernieOrBust terrifies me (if #HillaryOrBust is a thing, then that terrifies me as well, I've just yet to hear it) because this election is NOT the time to pull this out. We are in such a critical moment in our history with foreign relations and domestic issues and a Republican president in the vein of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would destroy this country.
Bernie and Hillary supporters share more opinions than we have differences. We mainly differ in who we think has the better approach to accomplish the change we mostly agree on needs to take place. I don't understand where the hostility is coming from. All I hope is that both sides come together when the nominee is chosen so that we can go on to defeat the Republican nominee.
Bernsters and HillaryHens...
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Bloo
I am so ready for the primary to be over. This primaries has become hostile it's entirely aggravating. I agree with Sanders on most issues, but both Hillary and Bernie supporters have demonized the other side (I know I have myself). I could rant and say that Bernie fans started it when it comes to me because they were the ones to harass me for my opinion on Facebook or real life, etc. etc. But, it doesn't matter anymore.
Regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination (though I strongly hope it ends up being Hillary), that nominee will get my support. I'll admit, if Bernie gets the nomination, I will not vote for him happily. I will not enjoy it in the slightest because he doesn't have my confidence to be a good president, and I don't expect Bernie supporters to be any differently if Hillary wins. But, we have to come together at the end of the primary to make sure that the nominee defeats the Republican candidate.
#BernieOrBust terrifies me (if #HillaryOrBust is a thing, then that terrifies me as well, I've just yet to hear it) because this election is NOT the time to pull this out. We are in such a critical moment in our history with foreign relations and domestic issues and a Republican president in the vein of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would destroy this country.
Bernie and Hillary supporters share more opinions than we have differences. We mainly differ in who we think has the better approach to accomplish the change we mostly agree on needs to take place. I don't understand where the hostility is coming from. All I hope is that both sides come together when the nominee is chosen so that we can go on to defeat the Republican nominee.
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Totally agreed! This is NOT the year for a protest campaign. The stakes are too high. Hillary Clinton is now at 75% of the delegates she needs for the Democratic nomination. We must unite behind her when she inevitably secures the nomination. We cannot let Donald Trump or Ted Cruz in the White House! Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, let us remember who the real enemy is!
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I think it's silly to suggest that Hillary isn't qualified but I do question her judgement often. She has made a few too many mistakes.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Cheetos
Bernie saying Hillary is "not qualified" when she was elected to be the senator from New York twice and that primary is less than two weeks away 
I hope she uses this to her advantage in the debate - HELD IN NY!!!! |
Bernie was elected to the Senate twice, and the House many more times.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Berries
I think it's silly to suggest that Hillary isn't qualified but I do question her judgement often. She has made a few too many mistakes.
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And you don't make any? Hillary is human and so is Bernie. Both have made mistakes. They both s*** and piss too.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by hooky
Bernie was elected to the Senate twice, and the House many more times.
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In Vermont sis, his home state. NY is Hillary's home state.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by hooky
Bernie was elected to the Senate twice, and the House many more times.
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I mean because she was elected by NY. Which is the next big primary. He's literally saying the job she did for New Yorkers doesn't make her qualified lol
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bloo
I am so ready for the primaries to be over. This primary season has become hostile it's entirely aggravating. I agree with Sanders on most issues, but both Hillary and Bernie supporters have demonized the other side (I know I have myself). I could rant and say that Bernie fans started it when it comes to me because they were the ones to harass me for my opinion on Facebook or real life, etc. etc. But, it doesn't matter anymore.
Regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination (though I strongly hope it ends up being Hillary), that nominee will get my support. I'll admit, if Bernie gets the nomination, I will not vote for him happily. I will not enjoy it in the slightest because he doesn't have my confidence to be a good president, and I don't expect Bernie supporters to be any differently if Hillary wins. But, we have to come together at the end of the primary to make sure that the nominee defeats the Republican candidate.
#BernieOrBust terrifies me (if #HillaryOrBust is a thing, then that terrifies me as well, I've just yet to hear it) because this election is NOT the time to pull this out. We are in such a critical moment in our history with foreign relations and domestic issues and a Republican president in the vein of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would destroy this country.
Bernie and Hillary supporters share more opinions than we have differences. We mainly differ in who we think has the better approach to accomplish the change we mostly agree on needs to take place. I don't understand where the hostility is coming from. All I hope is that both sides come together when the nominee is chosen so that we can go on to defeat the Republican nominee.
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This is just not true.
A very large chunk of people view Hillary Clinton as an extremely dishonest, corrupt person who has engaged in a lot of shady dealings over the years. These people generally feel that they've been alienated by the political system (and I can relate to them, because I know I do), and although they may agree strongly with most or all of Clinton's policies they don't trust her to implement them. They believe that she will keep the status quo and put her interests first. You don't want any of those qualities in a president, and that's the kind of president these people believe that she will be.
I am not taking a side, I'm simply trying to explain why Bernie v. Hillary is more than just who is more progressive and who voted on liberal-agenda-pushing bills earlier.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Saying Hillary isn't "qualified" is a tactical mistake, that word is too loaded. He JUST said it and the headlines are already spreading. Giving me "likable enough" teas.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bloo
I am so ready for the primaries to be over. This primary season has become hostile it's entirely aggravating. I agree with Sanders on most issues, but both Hillary and Bernie supporters have demonized the other side (I know I have myself). I could rant and say that Bernie fans started it when it comes to me because they were the ones to harass me for my opinion on Facebook or real life, etc. etc. But, it doesn't matter anymore.
Regardless of who wins the Democratic nomination (though I strongly hope it ends up being Hillary), that nominee will get my support. I'll admit, if Bernie gets the nomination, I will not vote for him happily. I will not enjoy it in the slightest because he doesn't have my confidence to be a good president, and I don't expect Bernie supporters to be any differently if Hillary wins. But, we have to come together at the end of the primary to make sure that the nominee defeats the Republican candidate.
#BernieOrBust terrifies me (if #HillaryOrBust is a thing, then that terrifies me as well, I've just yet to hear it) because this election is NOT the time to pull this out. We are in such a critical moment in our history with foreign relations and domestic issues and a Republican president in the vein of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would destroy this country.
Bernie and Hillary supporters share more opinions than we have differences. We mainly differ in who we think has the better approach to accomplish the change we mostly agree on needs to take place. I don't understand where the hostility is coming from. All I hope is that both sides come together when the nominee is chosen so that we can go on to defeat the Republican nominee.
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I agree. I don't like Hillary but I realize she'd be a much better option than Trump or Cruz, at least at the moment. Hopefully nothing happens to change that, but at that point I'd probably move out of the country ASAP.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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I like Bloo a lot, but I agree with alexanderao. I personally don't think I have much in common at all with the most zealous Bernie supporters and would be happy to show them the door. But yes, I would vote Bernie over Cruz or Trump. Not over a Bloomberg, though.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Benzene
Saying Hillary isn't "qualified" is a tactical mistake, that word is too loaded. He JUST said it and the headlines are already spreading. Giving me "likable enough" teas.
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He deserves to get his backlash finally! The media has been too kind to him.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Mainstream media is trash and they prove it more everyday. As soon as Bernie says something "bad" they're all over it but they ignore Hillary's mess as much as possible.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
And you don't make any? Hillary is human and so is Bernie. Both have made mistakes. They both s*** and piss too.
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This isn't like failing Algebra or accidentally crashing your car though. This is a little more serious, don't you think?
I never expect a 'perfect' president, but I expect one with a bit better of a track record than Hillary when it comes to making consistently sound decisions and not being swayed by ******** lobbyists.
But don't worry, I still trust her judgement more than Trump or Cruz.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Cheetos
I mean because she was elected by NY. Which is the next big primary. He's literally saying the job she did for New Yorkers doesn't make her qualified lol
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Okay, then you have a valid point. She definitely IS qualified, there's no doubt about that. It's just a matter of whether she's right for the job. I think if he phrased it differently it would go over better.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by @michael
He deserves to get his backlash finally! The media has been too kind to him.
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They tend to just silence him instead, which is even less fair.
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Member Since: 6/6/2011
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
I feel like a Sanders presidency would essentially be the end of the world.... No foreign policy experience, wouldn't communicate effectively with other countries, would only be focused on "breaking up the banks" (even though as seen in the interview he doesn't really know how)... Lots more where that came from. National security is one of my greatest concerns and his lack of experience terrifies me..
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Foreign Policy is the biggest issue for me in this election.
From Russia , Iran , North Korea & China I don't know where
Bernie truly stands on dealing with the aggression from these countries.
I'd rather see a debate just on foreign policy alone to draw some contrasts between the two.
Hillary is hawkish & their's no denying it but when many foreign leaders
highly respect & fear you becoming president
that's what I want in a leader to build on american power abroad.
I'm just a hawkish democrat in general but you don't have to go to war to exert military power.
I agree with Hillary that she'll try diplomacy at any chance but won't hesitate to take military action if things hit the fan.
That should go for any other country as well. No nation should be a threat to the U.S. & Nato.
I don't want a president that puts foreign policy on the back burner
while he spends the majority of his time focusing on domestic policy.
When it's comes to the U.S. in general though I'd rather have Bernie in office than any of the republican candidates.
Could you imagine Trump or Cruz having the codes to are nuclear weapons?!
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
 "Hillary Clinton is not qualified to be president" - Bernie Sanders
****Lets do some fact checking, Bernard
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton:
Gave the first student commencement address at Wellesley College in 1969 after being chosen by her peers and was Senior Class President
President of the Wellesley Young Republicans
Intern at the House Republican Conference
After listening to Martin Luther King Jr. speak when she was younger and meeting him, she became inspired to live a life of service. She later became a Democrat in 1968 knowing that was her best path forward for a life of serving others.
Volunteered for Democrat Eugene McCarthy’s presidential campaign at the age of 21 when the Civil Rights movement as well as anti-war movements were tempestuous
Graduate of Yale Law School with honors
Editorial board of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action
Worked on Senator Walter Mondale’s Subcommittee researching migrant labor
Helped found Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a group dedicated to the betterment of children’s lives by advocating for their health, well-being, and education.
Attorney at the Children’s Defense Fund leveling the playing field for children
Professor at the University of Arkansas School of Law
Director of Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Arkansas School of Law
First female chair of the Legal Services Corporation which helps ensure everyone has equal access to justice under the law, despite whether you can afford it
First female partner at Rose Law Firm
Former civil litigation attorney
Listed as one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America by The National Law Journal
Former First Lady of Arkansas
Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983
First Chair of the American Bar Association’s Commission on Women in the Profession
Created Arkansas’s Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth because she saw a need for educating young children. Bringing HIPPY to Arkansas enabled parents to be their child’s first teacher and prepare them for a life of learning.
Appointed leader of task force that reformed Arkansas’s education system
As the wife of the Governor of Arkansas, and with her background in law, she sat on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart for six years as it was one of the largest employers in the state and central to the state’s economy
Instrumental in making sure the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP now CHIP) was passed and implemented so that all children have access to healthcare no matter the income level.
Promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses
“Played a leading role in creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act”
Successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health
Helped investigate the affects of Gulf War Syndrome of the Veterans afflicted
Helped initiate the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice
Initiated and helped guide the Adoption and Safe Families Act helping in children in foster care move faster in to permanent homes
First FLOTUS in the United States to hold a postgraduate degree
Declared to the United Nations that “women’s rights are human rights” which at the time she said it, was a very big deal
Helped lead the charge in expanding healthcare access for the military, including an expansion to the Family and Medical Leave Act which was necessary for those wounded in service
Traveled to over 70 countries during time as First Lady
Helped establish, alongside former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Vital Voices, whose mission is “to identify, invest in and bring visibility to extraordinary women around the world by unleashing their leadership potential to transform lives and accelerate peace and prosperity in their communities”
United States Senator from the state of New York for nearly two terms
First former FLOTUS to be elected as a United States Senator (twice)
Served on five Senate committees:
– Committee on Budget (2001–2002)
– Committee on Armed Services (2003–2009)
– Committee on Environment and Public Works (2001–2009)
– Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (2001–2009)
– Special Committee on Aging
Commissioner on the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe
“Instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site’s redevelopment alongside fellow New York Senator Chuck Schumer (D)
Had leading role in investigating the health issues that 9/11 first responders were facing
United States Secretary of State serving under President Obama
Brokered a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas.
Lobbied for the first-ever U.N. Human Rights Council resolution on human rights declaring “gay rights are human rights”
Part of the the advisory team that led to President Obama’s decision to kill Osama bin Laden
Was a leading voice that helped open the door to the historic Iran Nuclear Deal
Most traveled Secretary of State during tenure as top U.S. diplomat
Senate Stats, Legislation Sponsored or Cosponsored, and Voting Record:
https://www.govtrack.us/.../members/...clinton/300022
https://www.congress.gov/member/hillary-clinton/C001041
http://votesmart.org/.../key-votes/5...illary-clinton...
Other notable achievements:
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GRAMMY Award winner
Receipts:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/mem...clinton/300022
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