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Celeb News: M.I.A: Is Beyoncé going to say Muslim Lives Matter?
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Originally posted by Tsuko
M.I.A. has a point.
I think Beyonce only does things that benefits HER. Speaking about feminism or BLM helps Beyonce's career. That's the REAL reason she does it. If supporting those things was something that would damage her career she wouldn't do it.
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Or you could say BLM is being brought to central stage by Beyoncé.
You are looking in from the outside. It is wise not to make assumptions. Beyoncé has always been hands on since her emergence to the industry. The survival foundation, Donating food to food banks (Feed America), Chime for Change, Global Citizen etc. She is giving and doing more than you ever have and will. You can be bitter and pretend, you don't do things for personal benefit. But the truth is, that is a lie you do. We all do. It is life. The important thing about Beyoncé is, that she does something. End of rant.
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Originally posted by LyonH
MIA needs to have several seats. She is a parkistani artist... let her cater to her volks. She is ignorant to the fact that Beyoncé does more than catering to the Black demography. Her Chime for Change and Glibal Citizen initiatives cater to everyone. What is MIA talking about? Her talking is not enough. She needs to walk the walk, invest money and funds into parkistani issues or shut her mouth.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
it's actually super disgusting to suggest a black woman only supports black movements because it advances her career and not because it is in her interest as a black woman with black family and loved ones and a black child
please stop it @killingyourcarrer @tsuko @anyonethisappliesto
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 horrified at people actually thinking that.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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So, because black oppression has been ongoing in the US for decades, black artists and people are "allowed" to speak on it and not allowed to speak on other issues? I don't take fault with her for using Bey's name. What I take fault with is the illusion that one cause is more important than the other. I also take fault with her singling out black people in an attempt to bring light to the struggles of other POC all over the world. The actual ****?
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Originally posted by Letemtalk
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Her heritage is clearly not English. So, she is probably an English-Tamil?
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Originally posted by Bríseis
She just pointed out that even stars who try to talk social issues are just talking about what people are used to already and are avoiding the biggest world issue happening right now.
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Are you SERIOUS? Because it is STILL relevant and necessary to talk about it.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
There is so many songs addressing war in Vietnam from 60s and 70s and so on. But now, it looks like this generation is numb and ignorant when it comes to world issues especially with the huge US millitary involvement and responsibility for what is happening in the Middle East and the biggest humanitarian tragedy since WWII that goes with it. They say nothing about it at all. M.I.A. is absolutely right.
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That was not the point she was making at all. That's YOUR point and you're trying to equate it to hers. 
She was talking about how black artists aren't advocating for other oppressed groups. If it was about the stupidity of this generation, she wouldn't have mentioned Black Lives Matter and used Beyonce and Kendrick as examples of people
not talking about other struggles. Don't be so obtuse.
Instead of using that interview as a platform to advocate Muslim lives, Syrian lives etc., she used to it criticize black artists fighting for black causes.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting others to join a cause and advocate for groups that they're not a part of. But to criticize other PoC artists for speaking about issues relevant to them is stupid, to say the least.
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While she has a good point, every race issue that people face in the world is worthy of being talked about. For certain, we should be talking about Muslim lives, but that doesn’t mean that artists and black communities can’t be talking about black lives.
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Originally posted by Chimier
Are you SERIOUS? Because it is STILL relevant and necessary to talk about it.
That was not the point she was making at all. That's YOUR point and you're trying to equate to to hers.
She was talking about how black artists aren't advocating for other oppressed groups. If it was about the stupidity of this generation, s he wouldn't have mentioned Black Lives Matter and used Beyonce and Kendrick as examples of people
not talking about other struggles. Don't be so obtuse.
Instead of using that interview as a platform to advocate Muslim lives, Syrian lives etc., she used to it criticize black artists fighting for black causes. |
It just comes off as weird for her to nitpick this, unless she herself is addressing every issue that every oppressed culture has in the world, not just black, muslim and pakistani ones.
Also as an oppressed group, it can be hard to see ways that you can help other people, while simultaneously being oppressed. Clearly Beyoncé can, but sometimes you have to focus your efforts.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by MiaBella
So, because black oppression has been ongoing in the US for decades, black artists and people are "allowed" to speak on it and not allowed to speak on other issues? I don't take fault with her for using Bey's name. What I take fault with is the illusion that one cause is more important than the other. I also take fault with her singling out black people in an attempt to bring light to the struggles of other POC all over the world. The actual ****?
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YES
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she's mad huh?
she sounds like "BLM??? white live matter too!"
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Originally posted by LyonH
Her heritage is clearly not English. So, she is probably an English-Tamil?
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Thought people might have heard this verse before.
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With a bad bitch that came from Sri Lanka
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Yes, a Tamil from Sri Lanka and spent time as a refugee in India and England.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
She is not downplaying anything, she just says that while one issue gets a lot of exposure and support and not just from own people (its not like it isnt justified, most of us understand the importance of BLM), other is avoided and misunderstood. When you are socially aware its not hard to understand why, even when some Hive stans like slimsexy have hard time to accept these facts.
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She has a platform tho. She legit did a interview that people will see. Yet she chose not to focus on getting the #s she wanted out there. You aren't socially aware your ownself if you agreeing with her.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
M.I.A. has a point.
I think Beyonce only does things that benefits HER. Speaking about feminism or BLM helps Beyonce's career. That's the REAL reason she does it. If supporting those things was something that would damage her career she wouldn't do it.
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This I see straight through it and so does so many by the looks of it, it's just a controversial platform to release her music tbh. She knows exactly what she's doing but her fans will see it as some political statement.
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Sorry MIA I know it's still a surprise to you and many on ATRL but blackk people have the right to protest and support the issues we want to as well, and to us our issues come first period, sorry not sorry.
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No matter what Bey speaks on, she will always be accused of "doing it for her career" because the thought that as a black woman, with a black family, she can't honestly and genuinely care for these struggles.
Y'all are the same people who bash celebrities for not speaking on this or that, and when they do you accuse them of doing it for attention. Well, isn't that the damn point?
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
This I see straight through it and so does so many by the looks of it, it's just a controversial platform to release her music tbh. She knows exactly what she's doing but her fans will see it as some political statement.
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Regardless if it's a platform to release music or not, it still is a political statement.
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Originally posted by MiaBella
No matter what Bey speaks on, she will always be accused of "doing it for her career" because the thought that as a black woman, with a black family, she can't honestly and genuinely care for these struggles.
Y'all are the same people who bash celebrities for not speaking on this or that, and when they do you accuse them of doing it for attention. Well, isn't that the damn point?
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The amount of times she's sung about black pride too in the past.. which people just forget or look past...
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Originally posted by swissman
The amount of times she's sung about black pride too in the past.. which people just forget or look past...
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And don't forget how people still believe Beyonce's feminism is a 'fluke' when she's been hailing feminism for well over 15 years since DC 
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
And don't forget how people still believe Beyonce's feminism is a 'fluke' when she's been hailing feminism for well over 15 years since DC |
We should gather in the base to make a comprehensive list of every black feminist statement, interview, lyric, action, etc. she's done since she was 16 lol.
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Originally posted by swissman
Regardless if it's a platform to release music or not, it still is a political statement.
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But she's using it to her advantage! If she really wants to make a BOLD statement then release the album for free if she's going down that route and she's doing it to be political, but we all know she won't, it's just a attempt to get controversial with her next release that's all.
She's just milking it for her advantage and so many people are seeing it for what it is.
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