[BlueRanger]

Originally posted by NE.

Dead @ the 15 year old bottoms saying Janet isn't a legend

Janet's music is the reason Britney had a career. Enough said.

His bottom status is irrelevant to the debate. Keep your tongue in your mouth, tyga. He's only a kid.

[Mr. Wonder]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

Yes it is! Stop being so pressed!

Also, remember the good ol' Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?


Let me guess, you're going to say that RNR HOF has no credibility? That they're lying and that Britney didn't alter the landscape of pop? Yeah right, stay in denial

Okay they altered it, but HOW? What did they alter? What did they do that signified a turning point in pop? You can't just take one article and run with it without any supporting evidence.

[slw84]

I find it interesting that this has gone on for so long.
Janet is winning the poll but not by a landslide.

Now if we were to go with Madonna vs. Britney or Whitney vs. Britney I'd imagine it would be a landslide.
Oddly enough I'm a stan of both and believe Janet is more legendary but I do believe both are legends.

It's just funny to see all the pages and how close the polls are comparing two artists that should not be placed like that.

Letting nemo win in his quest for a hit thread.
Congrats Nemo.

[ultraviolento]

Originally posted by Lately 1814

Okay they altered it, but HOW? What did they alter? What did they do that signified a turning point in pop? You can't just take one article and run with it without any supporting evidence.

But you're claiming that Janet "helped shape the way artists approach the industry" but you have nothing to back it all up? I mean, don't come with this dancing pathetic bs

[Remixed]

Janet of course

[Mr. Wonder]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

But you're claiming that Janet "helped shape the way artists approach the industry" but you have nothing to back it all up? I mean, don't come with this dancing pathetic bs

Look at how female performances were before Janet:




Look at how females were performing after Janet:



Notice how dance becomes a major part, if not thee, the performance? Notice the large dance troops? Notice the departure of the voice being the crux of the performance? It's because of Janet a performance is more than just singing.

Let's see if you can do the same for Britney.....

[ultraviolento]

Originally posted by Lately 1814

Look at how female performances were before Janet:




Look at how females were performing after Janet:



Notice how dance becomes a major part, if not thee, the performance? Notice the large dance troops? Notice the departure of the voice being the crux of the performance? It's because of Janet a performance is more than just singing.

Let's see if you can do the same for Britney.....

kii, not you comparing R&B/disco acts to pop acts, when it comes to performing

kii, not you thinking paula was influenced by janet when it's the other way around actually

kii, not you acting as if janet invented female dancing when dancing was already being done by michael and was just a matter of time before someone (a female in this case) ripped off his style, kate was also dancing while performing back in the 70s, of course there's more theater there but still

nice attempt but the receipts are lacking

[Mr. Wonder]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

kii, not you comparing R&B/disco acts to pop acts, when it comes to performing

kii, not you thinking paula was influenced by janet when it's the other way around actually

kii, not you acting as if janet invented female dancing when dancing was already being done by michael and was just a matter of time before someone (a female in this case) ripped off his style, kate was also dancing while performing back in the 70s, of course there's more theater there but still

nice attempt but the receipts are lacking

@ you focusing on genre rather than dance, which was the gravamen of the argument.

@ you thinking I was thinking Paula was influenced by Janet rather than the other way around.

@ that not even being stated.

@ you making **** up.

@ Paula's singing career being made possible by Janet.

@ you running to MJ as a scapegoat.

@ you being unable to refute that Janet was indeed the female who brought female dance to the forefront.

@ you not being able to show examples of Britney doing the same.

@ you citing Kate Bush but not posting any examples. Put up or shut up.

@ you completely missing the point.

[Soda Pop Queen]

This thread is still going?

I swear this thread happens every month.

[ultraviolento]

Embarrassing, you literally have no receipts to back your assumptions up, I mean of course I'm going to focus on genre, R&B singers used to perform like that and they still do, regardless of Janet's presence or not, so what was that little video supposed to prove? Is Aretha dancing while perfoming rn? No

Was Donna dancing while performing when she was still alive and after Janet's "impact"? No.

So that "before/after" thingy was rather uncalled for and an epic fail. Cringy, honestly.

[Mr. Wonder]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

Embarrassing, you literally have no receipts to back your assumptions up, I mean of course I'm going to focus on genre, R&B singers used to perform like that and they still do, regardless of Janet's presence or not, so what was that little video supposed to prove? Is Aretha dancing while perfoming rn? No

Was Donna dancing while performing when she was still alive and after Janet's "impact"? No.

So that "before/after" thingy was rather uncalled for and an epic fail. Cringy, honestly.

And genre doesn't matter. Before Janet a performance from a female was just singing, and after Janet it became singing AND dancing regardless of genre. Point sailed over your head like a cruise liner in open water.



Edit:

And speaking of Donna, "Hot Stuff":




One has dancers, the other doesn't. Hmmmm....

[ultraviolento]

Originally posted by Lately 1814

And genre doesn't matter. Before Janet a performance from a female was just singing, and after Janet it became singing AND dancing regardless of genre. Point sailed over your head like a cruise liner in open water.

And yikes @ the abrasive imagery

[Mr. Wonder]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

And yikes @ the abrasive imagery

Show me some performances of females doing full-fledged choreography PRIOR to Janet and then we'll talk.

[Chimier]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

Pitchfork, Billboard > your opinion, so sorry :

Seeing as how the writers are probably just as clueless as you, I'ma say no. Billboard? Pitchfork? Really? Are they websites for musicologists and historians? Oh ok.

Originally posted by ultraviolento

Also, The Village Voice is one of the most prestigious newspaper when it comes to pop culture and guess what:


http://www.villagevoice.com/music/wh...s-live-6639239

Certified Living Legend, you can look but don't touch

Crying. ALL this article said is basically a whole bunch of nothing: she was that she was a very successful, manufactured pop spectacle who has influenced other popstars. No one ever contended this. What it does NOT say is that she's a significant artist who helped progress popular music through innovation via sound, style, performance or image. Why? Because she hasn't. Janet has. Welp.

[Chimier]

Originally posted by Lately 1814

@ you focusing on genre rather than dance, which was the gravamen of the argument.

@ you thinking I was thinking Paula was influenced by Janet rather than the other way around.

@ that not even being stated.

@ you making **** up.

@ Paula's singing career being made possible by Janet.

@ you running to MJ as a scapegoat.

@ you being unable to refute that Janet was indeed the female who brought female dance to the forefront.

@ you not being able to show examples of Britney doing the same.

@ you citing Kate Bush but not posting any examples. Put up or shut up.

@ you completely missing the point.

Originally posted by Lately 1814

Show me some performances of females doing full-fledged choreography PRIOR to Janet and then we'll talk.

You're asking for the impossible

[T.C]

Originally posted by Thisisit

Or just not from the US?

Janet get's more airplay in your country than Britney

Nice try

[dirrtydiana]

Originally posted by Lately 1814

I ignored it because no one has been able to answer the question I posed pages ago:

I answered and you chose to conveniently ignore it along with the agreeing posts that followed.

[Nemo]

Originally posted by slw84

I find it interesting that this has gone on for so long.
Janet is winning the poll but not by a landslide.

Now if we were to go with Madonna vs. Britney or Whitney vs. Britney I'd imagine it would be a landslide.
Oddly enough I'm a stan of both and believe Janet is more legendary but I do believe both are legends.

It's just funny to see all the pages and how close the polls are comparing two artists that should not be placed like that.

Letting nemo win in his quest for a hit thread.
Congrats Nemo.

And yet, you voted for Britney. Is it that there's something you felt you needed to prove by voting for the one you think is less legendary, sis?



And mess, I made the thread because I genuinely thought it was a fair comparison, which is clearly true if you look at the poll results. You've given me the impression multiple times now that you don't like me, but we've never even spoken before sis.