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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (August 20-27, 2014)
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Originally posted by Monarchy
Nope, and judging by Taylor's history regarding on-demand streaming services, won't be anytime soon.
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WANEGBT was later made available for On-Demand streaming, which gave it a bump back into the Top Five I think, and few of the later Pop hits off of Red were as well. IKYWT was not, which kept it out of Number One, despite huge download and large airplay numbers; video streams were added a few weeks later, but Swift's song had already peaked by then.
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Poor masterpiece Trouble.
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
Well yeah, I meant more that It'll be interesting to compare the precise ratio to other streaming-driven hits.
I think it's something like (assuming the current formula, for #s I didn't track down wholesale)
89, 87, 82, 83, 74% Harlem Shake
59, 45, 61% Wrecking Ball
96% We Might Be Dead by Tomorrow
84% Dope
79% Gentleman
74% The Fox
Based on your calculations, this week the most streaming-heavy song is Shower with 49%. Which actually surprises me a bit. The video isn't that special or anything. But I think T10s with more than half of their points from streaming are very notable.
Interesting that Wrecking Ball didn't even have two-thirds of its points from streaming when so many complained about its #1 weeks being unfair and dubious from being too heavy on streams.
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"Harlem Shake" would be far and away the most streaming heavy song of all time. Despite the songs brief chart run last year, the track ranked at number four for 2013. Harlem Shake sold fewer than two million downloads (as of the end of 2013), and it never cracked the then 75 position Radio Songs Chart.
Everyone complained, and rightly so, because "Thrift Shop" was ripped off of five more weeks it should have been on top, when the song led Digital Songs with over 400 K downloads for multiple weeks, led Radio Songs with over 150 million impressions for multiple weeks, led On Demand Songs with a (then impressive) over two million streams, and had an otherwise remarkable total of ten million streams on You Tube.
Billboard's juggling the Hot 100 formula to add in You Tube data in order to catch the viral sensation "Harlem Shake" led to "Thrift Shop" only holding six weeks at Number One instead of eleven.
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OMG Nicki
SLAY
Coming for #1, 2, or 3
Imagine if Rude falls to #5 or less
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I cannot see Swift staying at Number One more than two weeks, unless her label chooses to open up to Spotify next Sunday, just in time to try and keep the song on top for a third week, or with a special edition physical single, like Lady Gaga did for "Born This Way", which sold 24,000 copies, and kept her at Number One for a sixth (and last) week. After Taylor, AATB will reach the top, because Nicki's hype will likely drop after the VMA's as well.
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Originally posted by Aatthew
The seething Nicki is causing.
Youtube streams should remain worth just as much as Spotify streams.
A stream is a stream. Period.
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Not really.
Do you think people watched that viral video to listen to Soko sing?
Do you think people watched Chat Roulette man parody Wrecking Ball to listen to Miley?
Do you think people watched the Anaconda MV to listen to her song or just laugh and dance on Drake?
A Spotify (or any on-demand music stream) is because of the song itself is desired, nothing else.
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Do we know how much of those youtube/Vevo views are from US alone??
I know Anaconda has 50+million and Shake It Off has 33+million but that's WW numbers
I still think AATB/Rude will be #1 this week
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Originally posted by Super_freddie
Do we know how much of those youtube/Vevo views are from US alone??
I know Anaconda has 50+million and Shake It Off has 33+million but that's WW numbers
I still think AATB/Rude will be #1 this week
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No, we're gonna know on Tuesday hopefully
Nah, "Rude" has no chance, it's leaving Top 3 actually.
And well, anything can happen, I'm nervous for Taylor's sales but either way I think she has a nice lead over Meghan
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Originally posted by Super_freddie
Do we know how much of those youtube/Vevo views are from US alone??
I know Anaconda has 50+million and Shake It Off has 33+million but that's WW numbers
I still think AATB/Rude will be #1 this week
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You must be new to the charts boo. AATB is definitely ahead of Rude for next week. But Taylor will have higher streams than AATB, only about 10M less on airplay, and double the sales. She has #1 on lock. And if Nickis streams are strong enough she could be #2. Too 3 is pretty much on lock for her.
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Originally posted by PurrKaty
You must be new to the charts boo. AATB is definitely ahead of Rude for next week. But Taylor will have higher streams than AATB, only about 10M less on airplay, and double the sales. She has #1 on lock. And if Nickis streams are strong enough she could be #2. Too 3 is pretty much on lock for her.
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Like I said we don't know how many of those streams are US
Boo
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Originally posted by brianc33616
"Harlem Shake" would be far and away the most streaming heavy song of all time.
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Your rant is too long. I was talking about weekly % for T10s,
At its peak, Harlem Shake had 103 million streams, 262k downloads. So it had 393 times as many streams as downloads.
Soko's song had 11.5 million streams, 10k downloads. So it had 1150 times as many streams as downloads.
1150 is bigger than 393. So Soko has the most streaming-fueled T10 week.
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Originally posted by Super_freddie
Like I said we don't know how many of those streams are US
Boo
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It got 6 Million streams as of Tuesday, according to Billboard. It was on track to go #1 on Streaming, but then Anaconda happened
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Originally posted by GenieBaby
Guys, I think it's obvious that Taylor will get the top spot on next week's chart. She has a huge digital lead.
Ananconda will probably rise to #2 which is also very very good. It will be her highest charting single ever (if I am not mistaken SuperBass has that title with a peak at #3 on the Hot 100)
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Yes, Super Bass is her highest if you don't count her on Young Money's #2 hit "BedRock"
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I really want Anaconda to hit number 1.
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Originally posted by brianc33616
I cannot see Swift staying at Number One more than two weeks, unless her label chooses to open up to Spotify next Sunday, just in time to try and keep the song on top for a third week, or with a special edition physical single, like Lady Gaga did for "Born This Way", which sold 24,000 copies, and kept her at Number One for a sixth (and last) week. After Taylor, AATB will reach the top, because Nicki's hype will likely drop after the VMA's as well.
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Just..your posts are always interesting to read..you know what you're talking about and you seem passionate about it...
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I'm very very surprised at how late the us was in picking up Rude
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The decision to release Shake It Off week before VMAs was their smartest move ever. she will have no 1 easlly without strong battle of post-vmas increasions
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Originally posted by jpow
Not really.
Do you think people watched that viral video to listen to Soko sing?
Do you think people watched Chat Roulette man parody Wrecking Ball to listen to Miley?
Do you think people watched the Anaconda MV to listen to her song or just laugh and dance on Drake?
A Spotify (or any on-demand music stream) is because of the song itself is desired, nothing else.
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No, not for Soko.
They watched the parody video because it was a parody of Miley's video and song.
And Anaconda's situation is slightly different than those two examples. It is a music video not an ad or a parody and there was hype for it due to the teaser. People who watched the music video were indeed going to see her dance on Drake, see her shake her ass, etc. You don't watch music videos for the music but instead for the visuals so...
Every artist uses gimmicks, guest appearances, and so on to grab people's attention. See Fancy paying homage to Clueless, Black Widow being Kill Bill-inspired, etc. Sorry, I don't mean to bring up Iggy vs. Nicki, those are just two of the first examples I thought of. Noted, though, the usage of gimmicks, guest appearances, etc. doesn't ensure that the music video will go viral.
Not a fan of your examples, but the last sentence does make sense and I understand what you mean. That's a great argument, but I honestly don't see Billboard ever doing anything like that.
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This year has been dominatedby urban pop songs. I don't want taylor to ruin that. I need nicki to come through.
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I want Nicki to get a number 1 but not this week
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