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Discussion: NYTimes: "Beyonce is seen, but not heard".
Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Crescendolls.
I posted less than 5 replies and I'm a fan so where the **** is your problem ?
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I don't like people who act all 'omg why have you written so many replies/pages on such a topic'. It's a ****ing pop-forum, of course topics deemed as pointless by some will receive many answers.
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Originally posted by Crescendolls.
18 pages over Beyoncé not doing ANYTHING. Yall are a trip I swear
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It's incredibly ridiculous, but just goes to show you that regardless of what she is or isn't doing, Bey's haters simply cannot help themselves in looking for things to talk about when it comes to her. They will sit and huff and puff about Hive this, that and the other, but their behavior in this thread -- even while unprovoked and treated quite respectfully by Bey's fans -- is quite telling yet their favorite cop out to this asinine behavior will always be "but, the Hiiiiive!" Please.
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
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All of the members you are vilifying, their posts were articulate, to the point and in reply to a previous delusional commenters so in fact they were not ranting, they were cleaning up the messy the haters.
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
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And WHO were these Bey stans responding to exactly ? They're not replying to themselves, are they ? The only reason why they had to post that much is because of the insane amount of ******** and trolling that you can find in this thread. Beyoncé is silencious, doesn't bother ANYONE, is out there minding her own business and raising her daughter/working on her music yet yall keep acting like she personnally offended you.
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
I don't like people who act all 'omg why have you written so many replies/pages on such a topic'. It's a ****ing pop-forum, of course topics deemed as pointless by some will receive many answers.
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And how is this a good thing ? If only the subject was controversial but no, yall are fighting over Beyoncé living her own life. She hasn't said a foul word about anyone, isn't in the center of a controversy, nothing. How does this warrant 18 pages of "discussion" ?
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Originally posted by Ascension
It's incredibly ridiculous, but just goes to show you that regardless of what she is or isn't doing, Bey's haters simply cannot help themselves in looking for things to talk about when it comes to her. They will sit and huff and puff about Hive this, that and the other, but their behavior in this thread -- even while unprovoked and treated quite respectfully by Bey's fans -- is quite telling yet their favorite cop out to this asinine behavior will always be "but, the Hiiiiive!" Please.
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I don't even care about their double standards anymore. We're respectful and ****, yet they keep jumping on our necks because they feel better knowing that there will always be another dumb **** to back up their "arguments" (or lack thereof)
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Originally posted by Ascension
It's incredibly ridiculous, but just goes to show you that regardless of what she is or isn't doing, Bey's haters simply cannot help themselves in looking for things to talk about when it comes to her. They will sit and huff and puff about Hive this, that and the other, but their behavior in this thread -- even while unprovoked and treated quite respectfully by Bey's fans -- is quite telling yet their favorite cop out to this asinine behavior will always be "but, the Hiiiiive!" Please.
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Preach!
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This is why I love Bey, she the only black woman and only second singer this decade that has graced the September cover of Vogue. And she doesn't yell about it from the roof tops. It just speaks to her power in the industry where she doesn't have to give interviews but still gets just as much or more attention than her peers. And when you have been in the industry since the 90s and have lasted this long damn near 20 years you have earned the right not to do interviews. This is why she is still on top 20 years into her career and those who started with her have fallen off.
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all i can say about this thread is Get a life people
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Crescendolls.
And WHO were these Bey stans responding to exactly ? They're not replying to themselves, are they ? The only reason why they had to post that much is because of the insane amount of ******** and trolling that you can find in this thread. Beyoncé is silencious, doesn't bother ANYONE, is out there minding her own business and raising her daughter/working on her music yet yall keep acting like she personnally offended you.
And how is this a good thing ? If only the subject was controversial but no, yall are fighting over Beyoncé living her own life. She hasn't said a foul word about anyone, isn't in the center of a controversy, nothing. How does this warrant 18 pages of "discussion" ?
I don't even care about their double standards anymore. We're respectful and ****, yet they keep jumping on our necks because they feel better knowing that there will always be another dumb **** to back up their "arguments" (or lack thereof)
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It's neither a good thing or a bad thing. If ATRL members have decided that it's a topic important enough to warrant 18 pages (of which a good half written by stans) then so be it. If you start with the 'not important enough' logic then 99% of the threads on this forum are really of no importance in the grand scheme of things.
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19 pages b/c she didn't want to give an interview?
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Originally posted by Vin
In any case, I'm personally glad that Beyoncé stopped giving interviews. It let's everyone know that she's self-aware. And that's why I'm a fan of Beyoncé (and self-aware people). She's dumb as a bag of bones, and she knows it. Beyoncé reminds me of Forrest Gump. At the end, when Forrest says to Jenny, "Is he smart? Or is he... like me?" That's Beyoncé. Knowing that you're stupid gives you a higher form of enlightenment, especially moreso than those who are stupid and aren't self-aware to realize it, i.e. Lady Gaga. Forrest Gump becomes an acclaimed, celebrated, billionaire, all whilst being self-aware that he's not smart. Jenny, on the other hand, who is just as stupid as Forrest, isn't self-aware that she's stupid, and therefore can be represented here as Gaga, because, let's face it, Gaga also tried to kill herself and will probably, at some point, die of AIDS.
In conclusion, Beyoncé not giving interviews because she's aware she's a moron is a good thing, not a bad thing. With the invention of social media, she can still have a presence, without having to say a single word anymore.
(Note: Katy Perry is also a moron. She's not self-aware, unfortunately.)
...Vin
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2 years later and still corny as ****
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Very interesting article.
I almost wish I could read the thread with the ability to filter out all the dumb comments, of which I'm sure like 80% of the posts are. 19 pages of trolling is too much
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Beyonce will do things on Beyonce's time. She will share with us what she wants. Tbh, that's how it should be. How many others can fully say they have control over every aspect of their careers? Only you idiots would see it any other way than inspiring. Here's a woman, a BLACK woman at that in control. This is something rare, you just don't see it, especially for black female entertainers. How many careers has the media ruined? Countless. How many artists have become media products? Too many to count. How many meltdowns have we seen due to the media? More than enough. How many entertainers have done interviews because they had to; explain or defend themselves from the media lashings? The media sees these celebs as products, not human beings. The media will post the first juicy story before you can blink an eye.
Beyonce could have easily told Vogue to publish her picture with Blue at 11 months as the cover but, NOPE, Beyonce released it on her OWN time.. on her Instagram account. Beyonce could have easily sold her wedding footage to the highest buyer but, NOPE, she showed it on her OWN time, On The Run . Beyonce could have easily done a sit down interview about "elevator gate" answering all the questions the world wanted to know but, NOPE, she addressed it in her OWN way. Beyonce could have easily sold the first photos of Blue to the highest buyer but, NOPE, she posted them on her tumbler, her OWN time. Beyonce could have easily told her label to let the world know when her album was dropping but, NOPE, she did it on her own time. If Beyonce chooses to do a sit down interview it will be her choice, not because she has to. It's truly remarkable to see someone in control & calling the shots in their career. Just look Beyonce hasn't said a word and the media are making articles and think pieces about it. Powerful. Beyonce's stance on what she gives the media should be applauded, but your hatred for this woman blinds you.
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Originally posted by TMTURKEY
I agree. It sucks because she comes across so boring because nobody actually knows the real her besides in her fake documentaries she makes, she could at least interact on social media sometimes with fans
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This* i used to stan for her imagery and some of her music was perfection but ive grown tired of the tired polished brand that seems so calculated and not authentic or free.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Beyonce will do things on Beyonce's time. How many others can fully say they have control over every aspect of their careers? Only you idiots would see it any other way than inspiring. Here's a woman, a BLACK woman at that in control. This is something rare. How many careers has the media ruined? Countless. How many artists have become media products? Too many to count. How many meltdowns have we seen due to the media? More than enough. How many entertainers have done interviews because they had to explain of define themselves from the media lashings? The media sees these celebs as products, not human beings. Will post the first juice story before you can blink an eye.
Beyonce could have easily told Vogue to publish her picture with Blue at 11 months as the cover but, NOPE Beyonce released it on her OWN time.. on her Instagram account. Beyonce could have easily sold her wedding footage to the highest buyer but, NOPE she showed it on her OWN time, On The Run . Beyonce could have easily done a sit down interview about "elevator gate" answering all the questions the world wanted to know but, NOPE she addressed it in her OWN way. Beyonce could have easily sold the first photos of Blue to the highest buyer but, NOPE she posted them on her tumbler, her OWN time. Beyonce could have easily told her label to let the world know when her album was dropping but, NOPE she did it on her own time. If Beyonce chooses to do a sit down interview it will be her choice, not because she has to. It's truly remarkable to see someone in control & calling the shots in their career. Just look Beyonce hasn't said a word and the media are making articles and think pieces about it. Powerful. Beyonce's stance on what she gives the media should be applauded, but your hatred for this woman blinds you.
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And the media hates that, being public has been the ruin of so many celebrities, look what happened to MJ, Britney, Justin Bieber etc. too much media scrutiny was their ruin. Ii remember Britney saying that telling the media she was a virgin was one of the worst decisions she made, her relationship with JT became a point of scrutiny and even their sec lives, she ended up rebelling and having a breakdown and look at her now, she's barley the same person anymore same goes with MJ. Beyoncé saw these things and maybe she just doesn't want to deal with it. Everyone who is demanding she do these things is showing how truly self centered and entitled they are. All Beyoncé owes us as an entertainer is music and great live performances and that's what she gives. Stop trying to make her your best friend of miss relatable that's not her job.
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Originally posted by Vin
In any case, I'm personally glad that Beyoncé stopped giving interviews. It let's everyone know that she's self-aware. And that's why I'm a fan of Beyoncé (and self-aware people). She's dumb as a bag of bones, and she knows it. Beyoncé reminds me of Forrest Gump. At the end, when Forrest says to Jenny, "Is he smart? Or is he... like me?" That's Beyoncé. Knowing that you're stupid gives you a higher form of enlightenment, especially moreso than those who are stupid and aren't self-aware to realize it, i.e. Lady Gaga. Forrest Gump becomes an acclaimed, celebrated, billionaire, all whilst being self-aware that he's not smart. Jenny, on the other hand, who is just as stupid as Forrest, isn't self-aware that she's stupid, and therefore can be represented here as Gaga, because, let's face it, Gaga also tried to kill herself and will probably, at some point, die of AIDS.
In conclusion, Beyoncé not giving interviews because she's aware she's a moron is a good thing, not a bad thing. With the invention of social media, she can still have a presence, without having to say a single word anymore.
(Note: Katy Perry is also a moron. She's not self-aware, unfortunately.)
...Vin
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Mess.
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It's very well known that she's a very private person and seems to hold back in interviews even on Oprah. And she's been campaigning this "I don't want to talk about my personal life, let's just talk about the music" since her debut. So yea after 20 years of her career I think she's just tired asked the same thing over & over again.
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I literally do not get why this is such a big deal
I mean I get why her fans would be pissed off, but why do non fans care?
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Originally posted by Buddy
Things like this make me so glad my fav can actually read and tie her shoes. Britney/Bey fans need to unite on this
Gaga can birth a new race and Bey can't even have one damn child that's her own
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Bey and Britney are 10x the legend that Gaga will ever be. Sit down and think through the next time you "shade". Yawn.
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Originally posted by swissman
I love the last part where the Yale professor says, "Beyoncé’s reticence in the news media would challenge her listeners 'to think about the art first' as opposed to fostering a presumption about 'getting closer to the entertainer'"
Whenever I hear people say they don't like Beyoncé because they can't relate to her, or she doesn't seem "real" or whatever other poor excuse for liking an artist is, I can't help but laugh. Are you looking for a best friend or are you looking to be entertained?
I think for most Bey stans, identifying with her comes afterwards. First and foremost we are here for her sheer stage brilliance and ability to slay almost anything.
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Yeah it's funny to me how other stanbases will try to diss the Beyhive with "Your fave doesn't even talk to y'all on social media!" It just shows more than anything how entitled people have come to these celebrities and their time. They forget that there was a time when social media wasn't even a thing and artists and their stans did JUST fine. Now it's if an artist doesn't spend enough of their time talking to you, they're fake and not relatable.
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
Sade, and many other musicians are the same way when they reach a certain level of success and fame. You become content with where you are in your career and life. I think that's great. I wouldn't do many interviews, either.
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
That's how Prince was in the 80's, it's for the best
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True. I agree.
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