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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
Hillary Clinton is the establishment favourite that is why she is getting praised by the media. Hillary was a joke last night. Her biggest faux pas was ''I represented Wall Street and told them before the crash to stop their speculation'', which had no effect whatsoever because the speculation continued which led to the crash.
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This is bizarre. So for the last 3 months, when the media has done nothing but criticise Hillary for every little thing, what was that about? Was it all a pretence? Why would they severely try to damage her brand if she was truly the establishment favourite?
It just doesn't make sense. There is a super juxtaposition going on there that no one is sufficiently explaining.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
This is bizarre. So for the last 3 months, when the media has done nothing but criticise Hillary for every little thing, what was that about? Was it all a pretence? Why would they severely try to damage her brand if she was truly the establishment favourite?
It just doesn't make sense. There is a super juxtaposition going on there that no one is sufficiently explaining.
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And I mean, to say she was a "joke" during the debate is wildly off the mark.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
This is bizarre. So for the last 3 months, when the media has done nothing but criticise Hillary for every little thing, what was that about? Was it all a pretence? Why would they severely try to damage her brand if she was truly the establishment favourite?
It just doesn't make sense. There is a super juxtaposition going on there that no one is sufficiently explaining.
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Oops.
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Would you like to inform a stats major why you think any online poll ever matters and is valid (they're not!), or would you just like to continue attempting to skew things in Bernie's favor as if ANYONE but his supporters thinks he won? These are your options besides backing down.

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Ignore her sis, downbywednesday...you're embarrassing yourself.
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I like Bernie Sanders but there are so many people - classmates, friends - that can't name one reason why they support him when I ask other than "he's an outsider." It's worrisome to me that this generation is willing to ride Tumblr and Twitter memes all the way to the election without actually educating themselves. The worst part is that they believe they're much more enlightened because they support Sanders.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
This is bizarre. So for the last 3 months, when the media has done nothing but criticise Hillary for every little thing, what was that about? Was it all a pretence? Why would they severely try to damage her brand if she was truly the establishment favourite?
It just doesn't make sense. There is a super juxtaposition going on there that no one is sufficiently explaining.
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LOL The only media outlet who criticized her emails was Fox News (the ONLY traditional outlet that matters), all the others had a blackout. Just know this, Hillary does not have this in the bag especially when her reputation is so poor. 53% of the electorate have an unfavourable view of her.
Oh and don't talk about Tumblr and being ''misinformed'', that seems to be Hillary fans domain. The only reason why people support Hillary because she is a now a ''liberal feminist'' (She is so feminist, she supported and campaigned on Bill's behalf for Welfare reform which hurt single mothers badly.)
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Originally posted by ShouldersSideways
I like Bernie Sanders but there are so many people - classmates, friends - that can't name one reason why they support him when I ask other than "he's an outsider." It's worrisome to me that this generation is willing to ride Tumblr and Twitter memes all the way to the election without actually educating themselves. The worst part is that they believe they're much more enlightened because they support Sanders.
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That's the saddest part of it all.
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
LOL The only media outlet who criticized her emails was Fox News (the ONLY traditional outlet that matters), all the others had a blackout. Just know this, Hillary does not have this in the bag especially when her reputation is so poor. 53% of the electorate have an unfavourable view of her.
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You obviously don't read or watch much media then. I'm from the UK and even I know that the Email scandal was covered in depth by msnbc and CNN.
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
Hillary Clinton is the establishment favourite that is why she is getting praised by the media. Hillary was a joke last night. Her biggest faux pas was ''I represented Wall Street and told them before the crash to stop their speculation'', which had no effect whatsoever because the speculation continued which led to the crash.
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And now they feel emboldened by these very same transparent polls to say she "DOMINATED" the debate
Hillary is the best public speaker of the five and clearly more rehearsed than Sanders, and as the most traditionally "politician" of the five she had her talking points and really drove them in during her allotted time better (and planned a counter to all of the attack points pretty well, unlike Sanders on guns), but to say she DOMINATED is a stretch. In terms of purely the debate, she did the best, but not by much. Anyway I'm confident the the polls will show Sanders gaining more than her, in spite of the mainstream media's best attempts to pretend what we saw last night was a Hillary Clinton speech; he seemed to be the most popular with the crowd, unsurprisingly as the disconnect between insiders and the GP knows no bounds.
Moving forward, the democrats as a whole need to stop playing nice, doing so only favors Hillary. They could have took her to task better during that Wall st section, or brought up her flip-flopping when they discussed Iraq and asked "why should we elect a president who keeps being, by their own admission, wrong?"/made points along those lines.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
LOL The only media outlet who criticized her emails was Fox News (the ONLY traditional outlet that matters), all the others had a blackout. Just know this, Hillary does not have this in the bag especially when her reputation is so poor. 53% of the electorate have an unfavourable view of her.
Oh and don't talk about Tumblr and being ''misinformed'', that seems to be Hillary fans domain. The only reason why people support Hillary because she is a now a ''liberal feminist'' (She is so feminist, she supported and campaigned on Bill's behalf for Welfare reform which hurt single mothers badly.)
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Don't even get started on Women's rights. Hillary has done unbelievable life-changing things for women around the world.
Wow, now I see how misinformed some of you actually are on these election candidates... Absolutely shocking.
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If you seriously think corporate articles are any better than polls, you obviously lack some critical thinking skills. Maybe try elementary school again.
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Originally posted by Lights and Waves
Ignore her sis, downbywednesday...you're embarrassing yourself.
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You keep telling yourself that. I hope your criminal queen gets elected and ****s y'all over because she doesn't give a **** about any of y'all. She and Bill have always only been about the money.
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
LOL The only media outlet who criticized her emails was Fox News (the ONLY traditional outlet that matters), all the others had a blackout. Just know this, Hillary does not have this in the bag especially when her reputation is so poor. 53% of the electorate have an unfavourable view of her.
Oh and don't talk about Tumblr and being ''misinformed'', that seems to be Hillary fans domain. The only reason why people support Hillary because she is a now a ''liberal feminist'' (She is so feminist, she supported and campaigned on Bill's behalf for Welfare reform which hurt single mothers badly.)
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Hillary supporters want so badly to be oppressed 
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
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And now they feel emboldened by these very same transparent polls to say she "DOMINATED" the debate
Hillary is the best public speaker of the five and clearly more rehearsed than Sanders, and as the most traditionally "politician" of the five she had her talking points and really drove them in during her allotted time better (and planned a counter to all of the attack points pretty well, unlike Sanders on guns), but to say she DOMINATED is a stretch. In terms of purely the debate, she did the best, but not by much. Anyway I'm confident the the polls will show Sanders gaining more than her, in spite of the mainstream media's best attempts to pretend what we saw last night was a Hillary Clinton speech; he seemed to be the most popular with the crowd, unsurprisingly as the disconnect between insiders and the GP knows no bounds.
Moving forward, the democrats as a whole need to stop playing nice, doing so only favors Hillary. They could have took her to task better during that Wall st section, or brought up her flip-flopping when they discussed Iraq and asked "why should we elect a president who keeps being, by their own admission, wrong?"/made points along those lines.
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You mean they need to starting acting like petulant children dressed up as politicians? You mean they need to start acting like Republicans?
No, thanks.
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
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They could have took her to task better during that Wall st section, or brought up her flip-flopping when they discussed Iraq and asked "why should we elect a president who keeps being, by their own admission, wrong?"/made points along those lines.
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I did find it very interesting that no one leapt on the words "I represented Wall Street." We all know what she meant but that was a poor choice of words in a post recession world where Wall Street is abhorred.
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Hillary supporters want so badly to be oppressed 
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I don't think you actually realise how stupid this sounds.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
I don't think you actually realise how stupid this sounds.
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I don't think you realize how stupid "HILLARY IS GETTING TARGETED BY THE MEDIA!" sounds.
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
If you seriously think corporate articles are any better than polls, you obviously lack some critical thinking skills. Maybe try elementary school again.
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Chill, and step off. If this is going to be about cheap, baseless personal digs you're just going to get threadbanned, I'm not here for this ridiculousness.
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
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Why are you using 8 smilies like a 3 year old child? Worrying.
Furthermore, it is pretty obvious that you know absolutely nothing. You should be embarrassed that someone from the UK knows more about a presidential candidate than yourself.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
I don't think you realize how stupid "HILLARY IS GETTING TARGETED BY THE MEDIA!" sounds.
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Ghastly use of paraphrasing if I may say so.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Why are you using 8 smilies like a 3 year old child? Worrying.
Furthermore, it is pretty obvious that you know absolutely nothing. You should be embarrassed that someone from the UK knows more about a presidential candidate than yourself.
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I'm not going to be embarrassed because some idiot thinks they're superior to me. Hillary is a crook and a fraud and the media doesn't want to talk about it. Stop trying to make her some poor victim. She's doing nothing for anyone but herself.
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