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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by King Maxx
I added another part to my past, and yes you are discrediting the South (which I stay in). I'm glad we finally have made a good ass decision, and not hand the nomination to someone like Benard Sanders.  We can go on about in more detail about her wins ba his, but it's been ran through already multiple times. |
A "good ass decision" is still subjective and no, I'm not discrediting Southern voters.
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Originally posted by The Countess
Say Trump loses, where does he go from there? Does he try again? Force himself into politics somewhere? Bow out?
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Endorse Hillary because this whole time he's been secretly running so that in the end, he can gather supporters and then convince them to vote for Hillary in the general election. 
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Endorse Hillary because this whole time he's been secretly running so that in the end, he can gather supporters and then convince them to vote for Hillary in the general election. |
Y'all give Bill too much credit here.
I wonder if Chelsea and Ivanka will still be able to be best friends once the real mudslinging starts. Tough stuff is gonna be starting any second now.
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
A "good ass decision" is still subjective and no, I'm not discrediting Southern voters.
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I don't agree with Southern voters and I wouldn't live in any Southern state, and no, I love diversity and I would probably live in a very diverse Northern state. I think states with more Democratic representation should have a better say in who gets to be the nominee
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By not agreeing with Southern voters and saying you would never stay in one, and that we lack diversity IS discrediting. Although Hillary has more diversity (AA, Hispanic, whites too, middle/old age, liberals/moderates, poor/middle/rich Democrats, and education from all levels) Hillary's wins among the Democratic coalition is more impressive than Bernie.
And no not in every state is saying Hillary is better than Bernie subjective. In my state of Louisiana, free college and single-payer universal health care and $15 minimum wage would be a complete disaster for us. We are not in a good position for these things like let's say Vermont. It just can't happen in our current situation so we had no choice but to vote for Hillary. Bernard and his supporters seem to forget not all 50 states are in the same position economically and politically and that's OKAY.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
I added another part to my post, and yes you are discrediting the South (which I stay in). I'm glad we finally have made a good ass decision, and not hand the nomination to someone like Benard Sanders. We can go on in more details about her wins vs his, but it's been ran through already multiple times. |
Hillary is a horrible decision and would be one of the worst presidents in history.
We all have opinions.
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Originally posted by Marvin
Hillary is a horrible decision and would be one of the worst presidents in history.
We all have opinions.
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And some opinions are based on false assumptions like this one I just read. Bernie would not be a good president for all states. Now that I can say with evidence to back up.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
And some opinions are based on false assumptions like this one I just read. Bernie would not be a good president for all states. Now that I can say with evidence to back up.
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And neither would Hillary? No president is going to be good for every state.
I know you love Hillary but please stop acting like she's the perfect candidate
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
This is fascinating.
I'm so glad that people are waking up to how awful of a candidate Bernie is.
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He's a disgrace and i'm glad blacks in the south and latinos everywhere stopped that disgusting 'revolution' in its tracks
His fans (who would vote for Trump in a heartbeat) are even worse
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Originally posted by King Maxx
By not agreeing with Southern voters and saying you would never stay in one, and that we lack diversity IS discrediting. Although Hillary has more diversity (AA, Hispanic, whites too, middle/old age, liberals/moderates, poor/middle/rich Democrats, and education from all levels) Hillary's wins among the Democratic coalition is more impressive than Bernie.
And no not in every state is saying Hillary is better than Bernie subjective. In my state of Louisiana, free college and single-payer universal health care and $15 minimum wage would be a complete disaster for us. We are not in a good position for these things like let's say Vermont. It just can't happen in our current situation so we had no choice but to vote for Hillary. Bernard and his supporters seem to forget not all 50 states are in the same position economically and politically and that's OKAY.
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1- No, by not personally agreeing with the majority of Southern voters, doesn't mean I'm discrediting their vote for Clinton's campaign.
2- Saying I would personally never stay in a Southern state does not mean I'm discrediting their vote for Clinton's campaign.
3- I have never, ever, ever said Southern voters/Southern states lack diversity. I have absolutely no idea what you're even referring to.
4- And no, just because you don't think it's subjective, doesn't mean it isn't.
5- Yes, it's okay that states have different positions on different issues.
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A $15 minimum wage would be disastrous for most states. I still think Hillary is going way too far as it is.
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Originally posted by The Countess
A $15 minimum wage would be disastrous for most states. I still think Hillary is going way too far as it is.
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Studies have shown that $15 is not enough, but okay
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Originally posted by Marvin
And neither would Hillary? No president is going to be good for every state.
I know you love Hillary but please stop acting like she's the perfect candidate |
You know nothing about me. I have been one of the ones in here saying agreeing with lesser of two evils. Yes no president is good for every state, but Bernie and Trump will both do worse with their plans for a lot of them.
I would much rather prefer Obama for another 8 years. FDR teas, but sadly that can't happen. Hillary is the best choice after months of research. I had my Bernie phase for about a month, but when he keeps talking I realize the disaster in his presidency.
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
1- No, by not personally agreeing with the majority of Southern voters, doesn't mean I'm discrediting their vote for Clinton's campaign.
2- Saying I would personally never stay in a Southern state does not mean I'm discrediting their vote for Clinton's campaign.
3- I have never, ever, ever said Southern voters/Southern states lack diversity. I have absolutely no idea what you're even referring to.
4- And no, just because you don't think it's subjective, doesn't mean it isn't.
5- Yes, it's okay that states have different positions on different issues.
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1- Her support is strong in the Democratic base all around the country. So you disagree with majority of the party? Honestly curious.
2- Why would you never stay in the south? Quite curious on this as well.
3- You said, "I love diversity, and prefer to stay in a diverse Northern state" That part wasn't even relevant to our discussion when you said it. And those diverse states are still voting for Hillary. There's a reason for that, and Bernie's team still hasn't figured out why.
4- All I'll say is study his plans and honestly tell me it works.
5. Glad we agree.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
You know nothing about me. I have been one of the ones in here saying agreeing with lesser of two evils. Yes no president is good for every state, but Bernie and Trump will both do worse with their plans for a lot of them.
I would much rather prefer Obama for another 8 years. FDR teas, but sadly that can't happen. Hillary is the best choice after months of research. I had my Bernie phase for about a month, but when he keeps talking I realize the disaster in his presidency.
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I see what you mean, but I don't understand how free tuition or healthcare would ruin your state.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
1- Her support is strong in the Democratic base all around the country. So you disagree with majority of the party? Honestly curious.
2- Why would you never stay in the south? Quite curious on this as well.
3- You said, "I love diversity, and prefer to stay in a diverse Northern state" That part wasn't even relevant to our discussion when you said it. And those diverse states are still voting for Hillary. There's a reason for that, and Bernie's team still hasn't figured out why.
4- All I'll say is study his plans and honestly tell me it works.
5. Glad we agree.
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1- My disagreement with Southern voters isn't based on them favoring Hillary.
2- It's way too conservative for my standards. Heck, living in New Hampshire was a bit conservative for my standards.
3- That's not what I said. I said I wouldn't live in a Southern state and immediately went on to explain that the reason is NOT because Southern states are diverse. Like I basically said that Southern states are diverse. 
4- His plans will be fine and it's not like they'd get done tomorrow. What he's pushing for is going to be taking years of comprehensive research, lobbying, working closely with A+ economists and most certainly, several adjustments.
5- Good.
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It doesn't take Einstein to know that Hillary is the much more reasonable, experienced and rational candidate. That's not an opinion, it's a fact
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I studied how each state is leaning in terms of the last presidential election, governor seat, state senate seats, senate seats, house seats, state house seats, etc. and colored this map on that basis.
The amount of red is just... scary. 
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Originally posted by King Maxx
You know nothing about me. I have been one of the ones in here saying agreeing with lesser of two evils. Yes no president is good for every state, but Bernie and Trump will both do worse with their plans for a lot of them.
I would much rather prefer Obama for another 8 years. FDR teas, but sadly that can't happen. Hillary is the best choice after months of research. I had my Bernie phase for about a month, but when he keeps talking I realize the disaster in his presidency.
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I was the exact same way. I think most democrats feel this way too.
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
It doesn't take Einstein to know that Hillary is the much more reasonable, experienced and rational candidate. That's not an opinion, it's a fact
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That's not a fact, it's factually an opinion. You're just wrong, and this allegation is very biased. You can't simply make that statement, it's absolute nonsense.
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Originally posted by Marvin
Studies have shown that $15 is not enough, but okay
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Im sorry but this is just ignorant.
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