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Originally posted by Chanel.
When the actual, statistically valid voter polls that this debate influences come out, I expect to see gains from Hillary and O'Malley, with relative stability or a tiny loss for Bernie.
If the Benghazi testimony goes well for Hillary, I don't expect Biden to commit to a campaign - in fact, he may endorse her, which would be a godsend for her polling numbers.
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Strongly disagree with this, especially re: Bernie. Hillary will stabilize or gain a bit, but Bernie is the one who has the potential for bigger gains. The common theme in all the previous polls we've had was that, whether Bernie was Bernie trailing, slightly passing, or being considerably behind Hillary (while still closer than expected), in each and every single one of them that had the option, he had a massive chunk of "[idon'tknowher.gif]" options... Like, in some polls iirc, 30-40% of people had no clue who he was or any policy positions, and didn't care to look them up
There's a reason people like he and O'Malley were practically BEGGING for debates, because they have HUGE ground to gain by getting EXPOSURE in the first place. And why there is the slight conspiracy that the head of the DNC id this on purpose to allow Hillary's lead to stabilize (coasting on name recognition, essentially). I can guarantee his poll #s will go up by a decent amount, though I'm sure the mainstream media is doing it's best to negate that by focusing on Hillary and only mentioning Bernie's comments on Hillary's email scandal (the FIRST question they asked him on CNN
). Or the gun issue, which was imo the only question he outright handled poorly.
And on an unrelated note, it is completely unsurprising to me that all the headlines are about Hillary right now. I still expect the GP to put her and Bernie at gaining roughly the same at the very least, if not Bernie out-gaining her for the simple fact that this election has been entirely about the disconnect between "pundits"/insiders vs the American people. I remember Rachel Maddow prophesied this way back last spring following the beginning of the rises of Trump and Sanders, both of whom were treated as a joke by the media and conventional wisdom, yet continually rose in popularity.
I agree with whoever said that the big loser of the debate was Joe Biden. His main selling point was that he was the known alternative to Hillary for people who are too disillusioned with her scandals/perceived inauthenticity/hate her for whatever reason. Now Sanders has finally appeared on the big stage as a candidate rather than simply vague coverage of his crowd sizes and dismissal of his chances, so he will make gains, many of which from the pro-Biden camp. Additionally, I suspect Hillary will regain some of the people who were turned off by the "scandals" with the way they dismissed it here (+ the recent confession of the benghazi investigation being a sham). If he was serious about running, he really missed out here.
side note: not sure about O'Malley. I think he's another case where the answers he gave were boring and politician-y enough that pundits and insiders will think he did well, while the GP forgets him. Or he can pull a Carly and start polling near 10% for the simple fact that he's a nice looking, clean cut and presidential guy, but with no serious chance of winning. Leaning toward the former, but that might be my personal bias. But I could be wrong about how the media will treat O'Malley, I'm just about to read the post-debate articles now (I'm more curious about the national polls after this debate, honestly).
Chafee and Webb need to drop out, just tragic.
Bernie's plans can happen, but they will take time. More time than he has. He also has to deal with the House and Senate. Most Dems in power aren't warm on his ideas, hence why he previously identified as an Independent. All of his plans would require a MAJOR moving around of things. You can't just say 'Cut military spending!'. It's way more complex than that. Any one idea of his affects everything else. Are his ideas possible? Yes. Are they realistic? No. Please take the pretentious rhetoric elsewhere.
. All presidents are going to have to compromise with congress. We know all their ambitions in their manifesto will not be succeed 100%, that's a given. But you should vote in an ambitious president with the best ideals, and then you'll get the best result. 
