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Discussion: The most manufactured pop star
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As if Britney was the only manufactured pop star... 
Of course she is but...they are all manufactured at the end of the day, they are POP artists, stop lying to yourself.
Britney is not more manufactured than Selena Gomez, Rihanna, Ariana Grande (marketed as the "new Mariah Carey"), Christina Aguilera (marketed on the same model as Britney), Avril Lavigne (marketed as the anti-Britney), etc...
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Originally posted by PULSE.
I was just saying that's how her label made it seem. I agree. And that is Britney Spears. No control. No say. Told what to do and how to do it. Basic bubble pop songs. etc.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Britney Spears was told what to and how to do it. That was the LABELS vision, not hers. That whole bubble gum pop era was nothing but manufactured pop stars.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Beyonce's label didn't want her to release her first album. They wanted more pop-ish songs and she said no.
Her label and manager at the time didn't even know she was recording B'Day until it was done. Which she paid for the studio time with her own money. Beyonce has the first and last word of her career. Now, she's the CEO of her company. That's right, HER company.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Beyonce basically wrote the album Survivor by herself. She wrote/co-wrote half of The Writing's On The Wall.
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Britney has no input. She doesn't even have control over her finances in her 30s. |
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Thank You!
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Beyonce has control over her career. Britney does not. That's a fact.
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All the popstars from the bubble gum era were manufactured pop stars. Britney Spears, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, N*SYNC etc.
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No one cared much but she lasted longer than any female star from her era in the late 90s?  18 YEARS and STILL having huge success. |
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Beyoncé has been heavily involved in her career since day one. She RUNS her own company. And that's why you see studies on her business. Britney has none of that and never did.
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You clearly don't know what manufactured means.
It has everything to do with it, she's not a puppet, she's not told what to do. It's all her. You can't say the same about Britney.
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Overall, Britney.
Currently, Katy Perry.
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Originally posted by swissman
How does the elevator incident or the Superbowl images mean she's manufactured though?
1) She never has been very into revealing her personal life, so the fact that we got a rare glimpse into an intense moment says nothing about whether a label dreamed her up or if she's some sort of inauthentic popstar unless you expect every human to public announce every time they or their family has a fight.
2) The Superbowl images are embarrassing but again what exactly does that prove in regards to her being manufactured? That her PR team was trying to push away some unflattering images? She's not fake for wanting better pictures of herself to be the ones used. That's actually a very human emotion. Or do you expect every human to be okay with their worst photo from an event being shared?
3) Allegations are allegations. No song writing suit has ever been won. That's because they're always from thirsty people like the Drunk in Love suit where the song clearly didn't sample it at all. No writer who has worked with her has said she steals credits so, yes these are just allegations.
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1) No expects from her to reveal details about her personal life but you know how shady her camp is when allegations are released such her sister is bipolar and Jay-z didn't fund his sister in law career. Finally, the alleged stories is Jay-z was flirting with someone else and Solange went Ham on him. It shows how unperfectly perfect she wants to keep the faux image of her personal live with Jay-z as if people don't know about his loyalty to Beyonce.
2) Many celebs get photographed and have unflattering and unattractive pics whether released or leaked, yet many don't threaten and sue. No is asking her not to fight the leak then, again we don't need to see the facade of perfect woman with thigh gaps and flawless skin and hair when is she far from that.
3) I don't know about Drunk in Love. But here are two songs I know about. "If I were boy" was written by B.C. Jeans and had sold her rights to Beyonce's camp/manger if B.C. would do a duet with Beyonce, yet sadly she conned her, also she claimed that she wrote irrepressible when it was mainly written by NE_YO.
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Any of the ones who don't write their own songs 
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Taylor Swift & Katy Perry.
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
A manufactured pop star, by the definition people generally mean when they use the term, is someone without any discernible talent of their own or control over their career, created by a label, usually working with whichever writers and producers their label picks for them (bonus if it's the usual Luke/Max/etc hitmakers), as a result lacking much musical identity of their own. The people saying Beyonce are either stupid or just being dishonest, she is actually talented and (for better or worse) has complete control over her career. Since ya'll love to mention how she has no solo hits since Single Ladies, she'd have to have the worst manufacturers in the world if they didn't put her on a quick Calvin Harris EDM track during that 2011/12 trend, or give her some other hit songs in the last 5+ years 
Britney fit the criteria for the most part, as a lot of child stars probably did (not as much anymore). The current queen of being manufactured would have to be Rihanna - was never particularly talented, but came in a nice pretty package, doesn't even contribute to any songs she records, is basically just a hit machine; songwriters/producers pump songs into her, she spews them out and to #1 on the Hot 100, they cash out and so does the label (hence her relatively low networth and earnings compared to other, more involved artists), rinse and repeat. |
Best post in this thread. And I completely agree. They are just coming in picking the artists they dislike most and trying to recreate the definition of what manufactured means. Britney and Rihanna are on the high end on the list. Rihanna's used to create hits. Key word: USED.
And even though Britney use to showcase her talents, as of late she hasn't with the body and voice doubles. She's not even in 100% control of her life.
So yes, Bey maybe be picky about what pics of her go out, but then again so is most of FB and Instagram users. THAT IS NOT MANUFACTURED.
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Beyonce has control over her career. Beyonce is praised and looked up to for it. Britney is not. Wasn't that the reason of her breakdown.
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I think it’s too in control. If I wasn’t under the restraints I’m under, I’d feel so liberated. When I tell them the way I feel, it’s like they hear but they’re really not listening.
If you do something wrong in your work, you can move on, but I’m having to pay for a long time.
I feel like a prisoner.
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Britney was controlled. She was a cash cow.
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Britney, Spice Girls, boy bands, Rihanna and so on..
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It use to be any boy band or teenage pop starlet. I was thinking Britney at first, but she had some ideas that made her become iconic.
Beyonce's not manufactured in the talent department..I think her image/PR is.
Taylor Swift or Katy Perry could fit the bill now.
I never looked at Gaga as manufactured..Rihanna at the beginning of her career, but soon GGGB dropped, she became a totally different artist.
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Britney
I love her but she'd be nothing without a team thinking everything for her.
She barely phones in her vocals these days.
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Originally posted by daking17
Britney
I love her but she'd be nothing without a team thinking everything for her.
She barely phones in her vocals these days. |
Except some of the things that made her famous in the first place were her idea. Like the BOMT video.
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Lady Gaga + Taylor Swift and Katy Perry
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Anybody who does not write their own songs and doesn't play any instruments.
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Originally posted by KatyLegendperry
Anybody who does not write their own songs and doesn't play any instruments. |
Ya, people like Barbra Streisand. Oh wait, the voice IS an instrument.
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Originally posted by Alystar
1) No expects from her to reveal details about her personal life but you know how shady her camp is when allegations are released such her sister is bipolar and Jay-z didn't fund his sister in law career. Finally, the alleged stories is Jay-z was flirting with someone else and Solange went Ham on him. It shows how unperfectly perfect she wants to keep the faux image of her personal live with Jay-z as if people don't know about his loyalty to Beyonce.
2) Many celebs get photographed and have unflattering and unattractive pics whether released or leaked, yet many don't threaten and sue. No is asking her not to fight the leak then, again we don't need to see the facade of perfect woman with thigh gaps and flawless skin and hair when is she far from that.
3) I don't know about Drunk in Love. But here are two songs I know about. "If I were boy" was written by B.C. Jeans and had sold her rights to Beyonce's camp/manger if B.C. would do a duet with Beyonce, yet sadly she conned her, also she claimed that she wrote irrepressible when it was mainly written by NE_YO.
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None of this has any bearing on being manufactured, it just means she is trying to keep her personal life and her professional life separate. That does not mean you are a made up artist. Having a shady camp doesn't mean you're manufactured. Can you please clarify what relation this has if this is a valid point to you?
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Again, this point doesn't spell manufactured. Just because Beyoncé is one of the few popstars who's team has requested bad photos to be removed doesn't make her less of a real artist, or manufactured to be something. We all know Beyoncé gives it her all in her performances. Those pictures weren't really a reveal of her true self, just a reveal of vanity if anything.
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A: The idea that Beyoncé stole If I Were a Boy is a false one. B.C. Jean herself has said that her label was shopping it around. As usual, a rumour is posted around the internet, people believe it because it's shocking and then the truth comes out from the people involved and no one reports it because it's not juicy. B.C. has called this the "best experience ever" and when asked about if she is supposed to do a duet with Beyoncé she said, "Well, that would be awesome" which doesn't really imply that it was part of the deal, does it?
B: She only claimed that in the context of a concert. You've heard of Sasha Fierce right? One slip-up or even one lie doesn't mean she is manufactured as a whole, let alone the "most" manufactured which this thread is asking about.
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Taylor and Katy, but in different ways.
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I feel like Britney's career is what I consider 'manufactured'.
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Ke$ha.
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