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Celeb News: ARTPOP Official Reviews: 61/100
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Guys, don't freak out about musicOMH.com. Here are some of their recent scores:
Rihanna - Unapologetic: 20
Cher - Closer to the Truth: 40
Miley Cyrus - Bangerz: 40
Jay Z - Magna Carta Holy Grail: 40
Lady Gaga - ARTPOP: 40
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They trashed Unaplogetic but it's one of her better albums. A mess.
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im honestly shocked this is getting such a relatively negative reception from critics. i understand the lyrics are lacking but everything else is there. the risks. the vocals. the concept. the diversity.
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3 positive reviews (all above 70) and 1 mixed (40). I dont see any negative reviews.
Dont be overdramatic.
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They gave PRISM 60,lol
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3 positive reviews (all above 70) and 1 mixed (40). I dont see any negative reviews.
Dont be overdramatic.
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LOL a 40 isnt negative?? I mean it's not the zero btw got slapped with, but it's still negative.
And i suppose the low 70s arent negative, but not where i had expected.. the album is just so good for me, i expected very high 70s overall
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They gave PRISM 60,lol
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I'll be fine with anything above 60 tbh. It's cool to hate on her now. Anywayz, who really cares. Sales are more important at this important & crucial point of her career.
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And 80 to MDNA ,Madge`s weakest album ( And i am Madonna`s fan btw)
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Metacritic officially means nothing to me anymore, some of their reviewers are so ..... I dunno
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The Quietus - Lady Gaga ARTPOP Review
There's no getting away from it some people really loathe Lady Gaga. Those that oppose Gaga (not including those who simply reject the notion of her based solely on a hatred of commercial, popular music) see her as a phoney a loudmouth lifestyle tourist latching onto various sub-cultures, ripping off Madonna's moves and quite tedious in her attempts to shock with her wardrobe. On the flipside, her army of Little Monsters offer up the kind of devotion normally accorded to either cult leaders in bad jumpers or Morrissey, worshipping Gaga as an eccentric, funny, sarcastic icon.
Fact is, as ever, the truth probably lies somewhere between the two. And there's no getting away from the fact that, while other pop stars deal in trying to out-risquι each other, Gaga's weirdness (genuine or otherwise) keeps us transfixed.
In the past, she's surpassed the expectations of a pop singer. 'Poker Face' and 'Just Dance' were dancefloor dynamite and perfect for the radio. Then she blew up with 'Bad Romance' and 'Telephone', both with ridiculous, irresistible choruses and lavish videos. She made events out of each release, teasing with lyrics and online countdowns, premiering new ideas online as she went along
all the while cannily giving the air that everyone was invited to the red carpet. After a delightfully pompous arena tour, complete with the kind of giant rubber monster that would've kept Peter Gabriel in Genesis, she'd gone from no-one to being able to walk on water.
Yet the wheels started to wobble when she told us she was 'Born This Way'. The message, admittedly sound, felt a bit forced and the album artwork that followed Gaga morphed into a motorbike wasn't exactly cut with the style we'd become accustomed to. Still, conservatives (both musically and politically) hated her. She, like no other, could get a rise out of dissenting voices and it was still a fabulous spectator sport for all concerned. However, doubt had set in and it looked like Gaga couldn't work out where she was exactly supposed to be, leaving fans slightly apprehensive about new album Artpop. For starters, the name of the project produced a collective squirm. We geddit. You want to meld art with pop. Of course, part of the appeal of Gaga when she first arrived was she wrote songs that treated pop music like it was an artform in itself. All the cod highbrow ephemera that went along with it was good, campy fun.
And now, with Artpop, it seems she's got confused. You can feel the weight of what Gaga thinks her work is, rather than what it actually is. The once wonderful haphazard gesturing has been replaced with the crowbarring of ideas into songs. Musically, in places, this is a tremendous juggernaut of pop. Unfortunately, at times the lyrics can be found wanting. On too many occasions, a line will be so poor that it takes you out of the moment, killing your pop buzz dead. Gaga sings about being "behind the burka" at one moment, before breaking into "walk down the runway but don't puke, it's okay, you just had a salad today, boulangerie."
That said, like other Gaga LPs, this isn't an album to be ruminated over (sadly for her). She wanted Artpop; we wanted Goodpop, and what we actually have is Somepop, with regrettable sags caused by the odd filler track. However, when it is good, it is terrific. 'Sexxx Dreams' has a wonderful energy, while 'Jewels 'n' Drugs' (feat T.I., Twista & Too Short) sees Gaga trying her hand at skittering the hip hop you'd find in Juicy J or buried in trap. 'Applause', we know, is a bit sticky in places but, if you stop expecting too much of Gaga, you'll realise it has a furiously irresistible chorus.
While 'Manicure' is the lousy rock song she's been threatening to make for years and 'Dope' tries too hard to tell everyone she's clean, Gaga may well have made her best song in the gigantic 'Do What U Want' which features R Kelly, a man in the middle of a renaissance. In this song, Gaga and Kels go head-to-head to see how can out-sex the other. Of course, R Kelly has his detractors (he's a genius, but his social life is troubling), but here he teams up with Gaga to take a pop at the detractors: "we're taking these haters and roughin' 'em up and laying a cut like we don't give a ****." It'd be nice to believe that.
Fact is, Artpop seems a little too eager to impress Gaga's critics. If she has tried to make things cerebral, to answer the criticism of 'you're just some dumb pop singer', then it doesn't quite work. This is a shame, for Gaga is always best when she doesn't worry about those people. The simple matter is that Gaga always works best in the language she speaks fluently - heartbreak, partying, ****ing, falling in love and teen melodrama. It's in these moments that Artpop really shines. Yet it's not Gaga's finest hour. There are moments where she reminds us that she can still do wonderful things, but for the most part, Artpop shows us an artist who is trying to do too much all at once. Gaga's head on a swan neck is perfectly hilarious, but rein in the preaching and clanging references to fashion because, basically, all we ever wanted was to dance, for inspiration.
If Gaga learns anything from Artpop, it that she should stop trying to impress the hooting cynics who keep asking her to prove herself and stick to turning basic human emotions into rousing, hair-raising pop because, quite simply, when she's on form, there's no-one quite like her.
http://thequietus.com/articles/13805...-artpop-review
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LOL a 40 isnt negative?? I mean it's not the zero btw got slapped with, but it's still negative.
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40 is Average, so there's no negative score yet. Chill 
2 stars is a 50, too. Can you all stop praying she fails?
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The Guardian - Lady Gaga: ARTPOP Review
There's certainly some decent pop on Lady Gaga's new album – but the 'art' part is rather harder to discern
On stage at the Roundhouse in London in September, Lady Gaga outlined the concept behind her third album. As it turned out, said concept had already been outlined in the first single taken from Artpop, Applause: "Pop culture was in art; now art's in pop culture, in me". It was, she said, her "dream" that "art and pop should come together".
Informing the world in 2013 that you've birthed the idea to blend visual art with pop music feels a bit like grandly announcing you've had a brainwave to mix jazz and funk, or thrash and metal. The urge to take Lady Gaga gently by the arm and explain to her that a few people had actually come up with the idea before was hard to suppress.
Still, there was something intriguing about her saying it. The people who'd already done what she seemed to be claiming to do for the first time had allowed visual arts to impact not just on their appearance but their music: the feedback and tumult of the early Who was an attempt to render Gustav Metzger's ideas about auto-destructive art in sound; the Velvet Underground's love of repetition mirrored the multiplication of images in Andy Warhol's silkscreens; the postmodern borrowings of Roxy Music's debut were a sonic equivalent of Richard Hamilton's collages. It's a concept Lady Gaga could make use of. There's a disconnect between the extraordinary way she presents her music and the ordinariness of the music itself: easy to ignore when she comes up with a pop song as irrefutable as Bad Romance or Poker Face, a bit glaring when she doesn't. There's no doubt that Gaga is a force for good in noughties pop music – a woman making an effort in age of will-this-do?, her pitch aimed at weird kids and outsiders in a Simon Cowell world, where oddballs exist only to be scoffed at and sent packing at the audition stage – but if her songs occasionally sounded a fraction as odd as she looked, she might be more convincing.
If the exact impact of visual art on the musical content of Artpop is hard to determine – alas, one suspects, because it hasn't had one – it's certainly at its most interesting when it shifts away from the standard dance-pop blueprint. The music on Sexxx Dreams keeps being drowned out with weird retorts of slap bass, while Do What U Want features Giorgio Moroder synths behind a guest vocal from R Kelly, who doesn't appear to have checked what the rest of the song was about before writing his lyrics: thus an intriguing exploration of the addictive nature of celebrity, which first angrily brushes off Gaga's critics then admits she thinks being attacked is better than being ignored – "if you ever let me go, I would fall apart" – is interrupted by a man singing about his penis. Co-produced, a little improbably, by Israeli psychedelic trance duo Infected Mushroom, Aura opens with distorted vocals and what appears to be an oud, then the bassline sounds like a dubstep drop sped up until it's frantic and churning, and Gaga's voice drawls in a manner that recalls forgotten new-wave starlet Cristina. Dope would just be an example – albeit a superior one – of a pop ballad were it not for the bizarre vocal, which starts out slurred and ends up on the verge of hysteria. Whether you believe it's bravely mapping out a previously uncharted territory between mainstream power ballardry and the dissolute anguish of Neil Young's Tonight's the Night or just sounds like someone auditioning for The X Factor after an afternoon in Wetherspoons, it's not really something you could imagine any of Gaga's peers releasing.
The shame is that Artpop doesn't do that kind of thing more often. There's something exciting about seeing Sun Ra in the songwriting credits of Venus, but, alas, the late Saturnian jazz explorer's influence is hard to detect: it samples a snatch of Zombie Zombie's electropop version of his Rocket Number 9, but the result is standard Daft-Punk-meets-Euro-oompah. And when the music becomes more identikit, it causes your attention to focus on the lyrics, which is something of a mixed blessing. On the one hand, there's an appealing unease about Donatella, which starts out as a gleeful celebration of the fashion world's ephemerality and bitchiness before suddenly raising the topic of eating disorders: "Walk down the runway but don't puke, you just had a salad today." On the other, there are her lyrics about sex, which one starts to rank in a league table of awfulness: Manicure's "put your hands all over my body parts" is just beaten by G.U.Y.'s instruction to "mount your goddess", largely because the latter is delivered in a voice that's presumably supposed to sound quietly forceful, as befits a song about sexual roleplay, but in reality has all the subtle erotic charge of a recorded message informing you that may have been missold PPI.
There are moments on Artpop when Gaga pulls off the Bad Romance trick of writing a pop song so melodically potent that its other shortcomings cease to matter: Fashion's straight-up disco, the five minutes of gleeful marijuana advocacy that is Mary Jane Holland. Gypsy, meanwhile, throws together earnest, piano-backed Springsteenisms – "chase the sunset, bust the rearview … it's you and me, baby, for life" – and pounding, wilfully tacky Europop into something ridiculous and irresistible. As it careers to a luminous climax, you briefly forget that what you're listening to is patently not what Lady Gaga claims it is. That said, nor is Artpop the car crash her detractors are willing it to be. It's a decent, if flawed, pop album, its good bits good enough to keep her filling stadiums as big as the gulf between her ideas and her music.
RATING: 3/5
60/100 on MetaCritic
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-artpop-review
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The Guardian - Lady Gaga: ARTPOP Review
There's certainly some decent pop on Lady Gaga's new album – but the 'art' part is rather harder to discern
On stage at the Roundhouse in London in September, Lady Gaga outlined the concept behind her third album. As it turned out, said concept had already been outlined in the first single taken from Artpop, Applause: "Pop culture was in art; now art's in pop culture, in me". It was, she said, her "dream" that "art and pop should come together".
Informing the world in 2013 that you've birthed the idea to blend visual art with pop music feels a bit like grandly announcing you've had a brainwave to mix jazz and funk, or thrash and metal. The urge to take Lady Gaga gently by the arm and explain to her that a few people had actually come up with the idea before was hard to suppress.
Still, there was something intriguing about her saying it. The people who'd already done what she seemed to be claiming to do for the first time had allowed visual arts to impact not just on their appearance but their music: the feedback and tumult of the early Who was an attempt to render Gustav Metzger's ideas about auto-destructive art in sound; the Velvet Underground's love of repetition mirrored the multiplication of images in Andy Warhol's silkscreens; the postmodern borrowings of Roxy Music's debut were a sonic equivalent of Richard Hamilton's collages. It's a concept Lady Gaga could make use of. There's a disconnect between the extraordinary way she presents her music and the ordinariness of the music itself: easy to ignore when she comes up with a pop song as irrefutable as Bad Romance or Poker Face, a bit glaring when she doesn't. There's no doubt that Gaga is a force for good in noughties pop music – a woman making an effort in age of will-this-do?, her pitch aimed at weird kids and outsiders in a Simon Cowell world, where oddballs exist only to be scoffed at and sent packing at the audition stage – but if her songs occasionally sounded a fraction as odd as she looked, she might be more convincing.
If the exact impact of visual art on the musical content of Artpop is hard to determine – alas, one suspects, because it hasn't had one – it's certainly at its most interesting when it shifts away from the standard dance-pop blueprint. The music on Sexxx Dreams keeps being drowned out with weird retorts of slap bass, while Do What U Want features Giorgio Moroder synths behind a guest vocal from R Kelly, who doesn't appear to have checked what the rest of the song was about before writing his lyrics: thus an intriguing exploration of the addictive nature of celebrity, which first angrily brushes off Gaga's critics then admits she thinks being attacked is better than being ignored – "if you ever let me go, I would fall apart" – is interrupted by a man singing about his penis. Co-produced, a little improbably, by Israeli psychedelic trance duo Infected Mushroom, Aura opens with distorted vocals and what appears to be an oud, then the bassline sounds like a dubstep drop sped up until it's frantic and churning, and Gaga's voice drawls in a manner that recalls forgotten new-wave starlet Cristina. Dope would just be an example – albeit a superior one – of a pop ballad were it not for the bizarre vocal, which starts out slurred and ends up on the verge of hysteria. Whether you believe it's bravely mapping out a previously uncharted territory between mainstream power ballardry and the dissolute anguish of Neil Young's Tonight's the Night or just sounds like someone auditioning for The X Factor after an afternoon in Wetherspoons, it's not really something you could imagine any of Gaga's peers releasing.
The shame is that Artpop doesn't do that kind of thing more often. There's something exciting about seeing Sun Ra in the songwriting credits of Venus, but, alas, the late Saturnian jazz explorer's influence is hard to detect: it samples a snatch of Zombie Zombie's electropop version of his Rocket Number 9, but the result is standard Daft-Punk-meets-Euro-oompah. And when the music becomes more identikit, it causes your attention to focus on the lyrics, which is something of a mixed blessing. On the one hand, there's an appealing unease about Donatella, which starts out as a gleeful celebration of the fashion world's ephemerality and bitchiness before suddenly raising the topic of eating disorders: "Walk down the runway but don't puke, you just had a salad today." On the other, there are her lyrics about sex, which one starts to rank in a league table of awfulness: Manicure's "put your hands all over my body parts" is just beaten by G.U.Y.'s instruction to "mount your goddess", largely because the latter is delivered in a voice that's presumably supposed to sound quietly forceful, as befits a song about sexual roleplay, but in reality has all the subtle erotic charge of a recorded message informing you that may have been missold PPI.
There are moments on Artpop when Gaga pulls off the Bad Romance trick of writing a pop song so melodically potent that its other shortcomings cease to matter: Fashion's straight-up disco, the five minutes of gleeful marijuana advocacy that is Mary Jane Holland. Gypsy, meanwhile, throws together earnest, piano-backed Springsteenisms – "chase the sunset, bust the rearview … it's you and me, baby, for life" – and pounding, wilfully tacky Europop into something ridiculous and irresistible. As it careers to a luminous climax, you briefly forget that what you're listening to is patently not what Lady Gaga claims it is. That said, nor is Artpop the car crash her detractors are willing it to be. It's a decent, if flawed, pop album, its good bits good enough to keep her filling stadiums as big as the gulf between her ideas and her music.
RATING: 3/5
60/100 on MetaCritic
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-artpop-review
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The Guardian - Lady Gaga: ARTPOP Review
There's certainly some decent pop on Lady Gaga's new album but the 'art' part is rather harder to discern
On stage at the Roundhouse in London in September, Lady Gaga outlined the concept behind her third album. As it turned out, said concept had already been outlined in the first single taken from Artpop, Applause: "Pop culture was in art; now art's in pop culture, in me". It was, she said, her "dream" that "art and pop should come together".
Informing the world in 2013 that you've birthed the idea to blend visual art with pop music feels a bit like grandly announcing you've had a brainwave to mix jazz and funk, or thrash and metal. The urge to take Lady Gaga gently by the arm and explain to her that a few people had actually come up with the idea before was hard to suppress.
Still, there was something intriguing about her saying it. The people who'd already done what she seemed to be claiming to do for the first time had allowed visual arts to impact not just on their appearance but their music: the feedback and tumult of the early Who was an attempt to render Gustav Metzger's ideas about auto-destructive art in sound; the Velvet Underground's love of repetition mirrored the multiplication of images in Andy Warhol's silkscreens; the postmodern borrowings of Roxy Music's debut were a sonic equivalent of Richard Hamilton's collages. It's a concept Lady Gaga could make use of. There's a disconnect between the extraordinary way she presents her music and the ordinariness of the music itself: easy to ignore when she comes up with a pop song as irrefutable as Bad Romance or Poker Face, a bit glaring when she doesn't. There's no doubt that Gaga is a force for good in noughties pop music a woman making an effort in age of will-this-do?, her pitch aimed at weird kids and outsiders in a Simon Cowell world, where oddballs exist only to be scoffed at and sent packing at the audition stage but if her songs occasionally sounded a fraction as odd as she looked, she might be more convincing.
If the exact impact of visual art on the musical content of Artpop is hard to determine alas, one suspects, because it hasn't had one it's certainly at its most interesting when it shifts away from the standard dance-pop blueprint. The music on Sexxx Dreams keeps being drowned out with weird retorts of slap bass, while Do What U Want features Giorgio Moroder synths behind a guest vocal from R Kelly, who doesn't appear to have checked what the rest of the song was about before writing his lyrics: thus an intriguing exploration of the addictive nature of celebrity, which first angrily brushes off Gaga's critics then admits she thinks being attacked is better than being ignored "if you ever let me go, I would fall apart" is interrupted by a man singing about his penis. Co-produced, a little improbably, by Israeli psychedelic trance duo Infected Mushroom, Aura opens with distorted vocals and what appears to be an oud, then the bassline sounds like a dubstep drop sped up until it's frantic and churning, and Gaga's voice drawls in a manner that recalls forgotten new-wave starlet Cristina. Dope would just be an example albeit a superior one of a pop ballad were it not for the bizarre vocal, which starts out slurred and ends up on the verge of hysteria. Whether you believe it's bravely mapping out a previously uncharted territory between mainstream power ballardry and the dissolute anguish of Neil Young's Tonight's the Night or just sounds like someone auditioning for The X Factor after an afternoon in Wetherspoons, it's not really something you could imagine any of Gaga's peers releasing.
The shame is that Artpop doesn't do that kind of thing more often. There's something exciting about seeing Sun Ra in the songwriting credits of Venus, but, alas, the late Saturnian jazz explorer's influence is hard to detect: it samples a snatch of Zombie Zombie's electropop version of his Rocket Number 9, but the result is standard Daft-Punk-meets-Euro-oompah. And when the music becomes more identikit, it causes your attention to focus on the lyrics, which is something of a mixed blessing. On the one hand, there's an appealing unease about Donatella, which starts out as a gleeful celebration of the fashion world's ephemerality and bitchiness before suddenly raising the topic of eating disorders: "Walk down the runway but don't puke, you just had a salad today." On the other, there are her lyrics about sex, which one starts to rank in a league table of awfulness: Manicure's "put your hands all over my body parts" is just beaten by G.U.Y.'s instruction to "mount your goddess", largely because the latter is delivered in a voice that's presumably supposed to sound quietly forceful, as befits a song about sexual roleplay, but in reality has all the subtle erotic charge of a recorded message informing you that may have been missold PPI.
There are moments on Artpop when Gaga pulls off the Bad Romance trick of writing a pop song so melodically potent that its other shortcomings cease to matter: Fashion's straight-up disco, the five minutes of gleeful marijuana advocacy that is Mary Jane Holland. Gypsy, meanwhile, throws together earnest, piano-backed Springsteenisms "chase the sunset, bust the rearview
it's you and me, baby, for life" and pounding, wilfully tacky Europop into something ridiculous and irresistible. As it careers to a luminous climax, you briefly forget that what you're listening to is patently not what Lady Gaga claims it is. That said, nor is Artpop the car crash her detractors are willing it to be. It's a decent, if flawed, pop album, its good bits good enough to keep her filling stadiums as big as the gulf between her ideas and her music.
RATING: 3/5
60/100 on MetaCritic
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-artpop-review
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ARTPOP for 60?
All the negative reviews are trying to say "ARTPOP" is pretentious.
They tried so hard on "My ARTPOP could mean anything" and "Pop culture was in art now art's in pop culture in me"
They are still stuck in TF Ga and TFM Ga.
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It's at 71 right now. UGH
Rolling Stone needs to hurry up and save Gaga.
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OMG its not going so well atm... I used to think it could get higher than 75 or even 80..
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The Quietus review was a fair and good one, not tragic or dooming (and they're one of the snobbiest and most persnickety publications).
Even though it confuses me a bit when it points out "Do What U Want" may be the best song of her career, but the songs is basically about Gaga taking a nab at her critics, which an action they argue prevents her from making "Goodpop".
They also say Gaga "works best around topics of heartbreak, partying, ****ing, falling in love and teen melodrama", but don't realize this conformist notion it's what makes her explore other topics in her music.
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