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Discussion: Is JLo more iconic than Mariah globally?
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Originally posted by Inverted
This doesn't contradict anything I said. Shania Twain and the Eagles have better record sales than the vast majority of artists, but there is nothing "iconic" about them.
By the way, Jennifer's payola-driven "hits" included I'm Glad... which wasn't a hit. More importantly, the case showed that payola was mainly effective in 2002-03 and Jennifer had hits before that.
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The fact you think there is "nothing iconic" about the Eagles shows you don't have a clue what you're talking about
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Is ATRL ever going to upgrade? There's your answer
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Originally posted by rockabella
did anyone mention yet that japan's a bigger music market than any european music market? also ppl can actually afford buying stuff there =)
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Don't drag Eastern Europe like that
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Originally posted by rockabella
did anyone mention yet that japan's a bigger music market than any european music market? also ppl can actually afford buying stuff there =)
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Platinum in Japan - 250k
Platinum in Germany (Ain't Your Mama) - 400k
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Originally posted by Rocket
Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with Vegas (or Europe). So Japan, ha music sales are pointless.
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can't argue with that logic
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Originally posted by Buyonce1814
Don't drag Eastern Europe like that
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Eastern Europe as in Poland, where Ain't Your Mama is certified DIAMOND?
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Platinum in Japan - 250k
Platinum in Germany (Ain't Your Mama) - 400k
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that literally doesn't mean anything lmfao. look at sales in japan and compare them to germany lol.
not the newest but not that much has changed.
IFPI 2014 revenue
1 United States 4,898.3
2 Japan 2,627.9
3 Germany 1,404.8
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Originally posted by rockabella
that literally doesn't mean anything lmfao. look at sales in japan and compare them to germany lol.
not the newest but not that much has changed.
IFPI 2014 revenue
1 United States 4,898.3
2 Japan 2,627.9
3 Germany 1,404.8
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That's because music costs much more in Japan, and because they tend to have those huge debut weeks (especially from local artists). The fastest-selling single in Germany is Satellite by Lena Meyer-Landrut which sold nearly 100k copies in its debut week in 2010 iirc.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
That's because music costs much more in Japan, and because they tend to have those huge debut weeks (especially from local artists). The fastest-selling single in Germany is Satellite by Lena Meyer-Landrut which sold nearly 100k copies in its debut week in 2010 iirc.
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well yes i said japan has a bigger music market and i am right thanks for agreeing!
anyway the germany plat is just based on shipments poor that.
still we talk about global europe doesn't equal global. the worlds equals global and i'm saying that as a european.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Eastern Europe as in Poland, where Ain't Your Mama is certified DIAMOND?
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Brexit got the Poles returning home and finally buying records again, I see
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Originally posted by rockabella
well yes i said japan has a bigger music market and i am right thanks for agreeing!
anyway the germany plat is just based on shipments poor that.
still we talk about global europe doesn't equal global. the worlds equals global and i'm saying that as a european.
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But Japan's 2nd week figures tend to be abysmal, while in Germany artists manage to have a stable chart run Europe as a whole is a huge music market, so you can't deny that if someone is big there, they're a global force already. Add the Middle East and South America to that, and you'll only have left out East Asia and Australia.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
I have to agree. Her relevance in Italy is limited to:
- AIWFCIY
- "I don't know her" (among the gays)
- Being a diva on talk shows
All my friends think her name is Maria Curry like the spice so yeah
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Come on, it's not true, I still hear her classics on italian radios, and they often use her songs on talent shows and talk shows during some reports, more than J.Lo.
'Hero', 'Without You' and others are well knew classics also in here...
J.Lo is for sure more popular in here than Mariah in general in the last years, but Mariah is for sure more respected as singer in here.
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Mariah is a non factor in Italy. let's be honest. She's known for Xmas and Without You and that's it.
O.T. JLo is more popular globally nowdays for sure.
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sweety i got that german citizenship you don't have to tell me ****. i'm more interested in why jennifer hasn't been reaching the UK top 100 with neither booty nor ain't your mama since she is such a big deal and europe = global. give me a break j.lo was never global she was successful in america and europe and that's that.
however if you look at their career overall mariah's been more global everywhere at some point in time apart from maybe puerto rico.
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Originally posted by Leptine
Come on, it's not true, I still hear her classics on italian radios, and they often use her songs on talent shows and talk shows during some reports, more than J.Lo.
'Hero', 'Without You' and others are well knew classics also in here...
J.Lo is for sure more popular in here than Mariah in general in the last years, but Mariah is for sure more respected as singer in here.
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Here it is - the truth from an Italian that doesn't have a hidden agenda.
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Originally posted by Rocket
Vegas receipts blah blah, On The Floor blah blah.
It's the same old tune with this lot. Almost as repetitive as J.Lo and ha Pitbull collabs.
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JLO has #1 movies, hit TV shows, and a much larger media presence (especially social media) than Mariah. Music is just one of Jennifer's many successful ventures. Mariah longed for that kind of cross-the-board success but failed big time
in movies (Glitter) and TV (fired from Idol after one season, E! TV show will probably fail in ratings/reviews, while JLO is executive producing an acclaimed and hit TV series)
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oh wow we went from europe = global to italy = global
=)
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Too bad we live in 2016, where JLo is bigger and Mariah hasn't had a hit for 7 years, and not 1998 when Mariah was only winning because JLo wasn't on the music scene yet
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Mariah and Jlo are two different types of artists. Mariah is considered a veteran/legend while Jlo still looks/acts like one of the young Pop stars and her career is shorter.
Jlo having a recent hit doesn't mean she's more iconic than Mariah. I mean, Madonna hasn't had a hit for a while, but she's still extremely iconic.
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Originally posted by Leptine
Come on, it's not true, I still hear her classics on italian radios, and they often use her songs on talent shows and talk shows during some reports, more than J.Lo.
'Hero', 'Without You' and others are well knew classics also in here...
J.Lo is for sure more popular in here than Mariah in general in the last years, but Mariah is for sure more respected as singer in here.
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Oh yeah, they used Without You on Tale e quale show last year now that you make me think of it! But other than that, none of my friends (20 year olds) knows much about Mariah. They don't even know how to pronounce her name properly, they say Curry.
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yet they'll bop to the legend under the xmas tree
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