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Celeb News: Demi calls out Taylor
Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Sin
Yet you're still implying that it's Katy's fault. That is a form of victimization. You're just automatically assuming that
a) Taylor can do no wrong
b) Taylor can tell no lies
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Taylor has done wrong and she has lied before. It's just that in this particular situation, Taylor's intentions were not to start a feud, they were merely to share the inspiration behind the 13 songs on the record. Just so happens that the Bad Blood story caught on because of the TMZ expose.
The media could just as easily have run off with any of the other songs being an attack on Harry or Jake or whoever, but the one song that had attention drawn to it was the one that the alleged subject of said song confirmed.
And I'm not really saying this is Katy's fault, just that it's not Taylor's fault either. If anything it's the media + stan culture. But Katy's tweets don't help the situation.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Sin
Katy started the beef because she reacted to a song that was written about her, and possibly unfairly portrayed her? To respond in a mild manner to a thought-to-be-clever little jab from Taylor? Interesting.
Yet if she's going to depict someone else, especially when causing speculation about this person, they can't be blamed for retaliating.
And she eventually did do so, and it was exposed later that this was exactly what she was trying to do.
Again, it was a retaliation. Not the start of a "beef".
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Yes she did.
By reacting, she not only confirmed w/e Taylor claims but also immediately caused medias everywhere to repost the information about the dancers that was leaked almost immediately after Taylor's interview. Had she not reacted or felt...."guilty"/angry, no one would've associated her with this song and there wouldn't have been any feud at all. Taylor didn't attack anyone but if she did feel attacked, then, well....
No. She, unlike katy perry, has NEVER once pointed fingers at katy perry.
THAT was the start of this beef, you cannot deny that. This beef would've happened if the information leakers, media and those who eagerly and continuously posted shady tweets didn't do so and tried so hard to put a name onto the other party which Taylor REFUSED to name in the first place.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by KORDEI
so moral of the story is. yeah, Demi is right. she's a bit of a hypocrite so she can spot one anywhere. Taylor uses "support women!" when she wants to play victim but wants to turn around and make a corny diss record over some damn tour dancers.
I still can't believe this.... tour dancers.
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The Greeks invaded Troy because Paris of Troy took a girl (Helen) from the Greeks. It's the classics and history filled with examples of wars started for looking the wrong way, a sneeze,...
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by KORDEI
and those of you still defending Taylor and Bad Blood... give me a break. It was about Katy Perry. She used details to describe the song that could only be linked back to Katy. So yeah, maybe she never confirmed it was 100% about her but she damn sure didn't deny it either when everyone was talking about it.... and didn't she try to act like she didn't kickstart the mess in a magazine interview acting like she didn't want to talk about it anymore?
she must have been embarrassed bc Katy didn't care.
so moral of the story is. yeah, Demi is right. she's a bit of a hypocrite so she can spot one anywhere. Taylor uses "support women!" when she wants to play victim but wants to turn around and make a corny diss record over some damn tour dancers.
I still can't believe this.... tour dancers.
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its not a diss record
its not about tour dancers
stop spewing nonsense and actually read the quote thanks
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
Taylor has done wrong and she has lied before. It's just that in this particular situation, Taylor's intentions were not to start a feud, they were merely to share the inspiration behind the 13 songs on the record. Just so happens that the Bad Blood story caught on because of the TMZ expose.
The media could just as easily have run off with any of the other songs being an attack on Harry or Jake or whoever, but the one song that had attention drawn to it was the one that the alleged subject of said song confirmed.
And I'm not really saying this is Katy's fault, just that it's not Taylor's fault either. If anything it's the media + stan culture. But Katy's tweets don't help the situation.
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Yeah. I think I'm done here.
Demi tho.....when will she stop
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Cupid
Dummies? She literally said their bodies aren't normal. That is not promoting "variety and difference" in body types. Comprehend it sister.
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But I just said I didn't agree with Demi's statement? It's more towards the people in here acting like there are only two body types among women, VS model skinny or you're 'obese' and it's just funny that the T.S. fans are saying things like this, as if the only alternative to promote more than the VS model body standard is to promote "obesity". Implying that if you aren't the same size as Taylor, you're then "fat".
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
2. It'd be more problematic to promote obesity
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Originally posted by Smilers
Taylor has been that thin literally all her life, and she's been shamed for it probably more than Demi gets flak for being fat.
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
So what do you propose the solution to this is? Should Taylor only hang out with people who are over 180 pounds on a daily basis? Should she tow Lena Dunham with her everywhere she goes?
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Originally posted by MadonnasBoyfriend
why doesnt she start her own squad with Kelly Clarskon Adele and Melissa McCartney
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by WeFoundTrouble
Taylor has done wrong and she has lied before. It's just that in this particular situation, Taylor's intentions were not to start a feud, they were merely to share the inspiration behind the 13 songs on the record. Just so happens that the Bad Blood story caught on because of the TMZ expose.
The media could just as easily have run off with any of the other songs being an attack on Harry or Jake or whoever, but the one song that had attention drawn to it was the one that the alleged subject of said song confirmed.
And I'm not really saying this is Katy's fault, just that it's not Taylor's fault either. If anything it's the media + stan culture. But Katy's tweets don't help the situation.
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But neither did Taylor putting the song on her album in the first place, knowing FULLY what she was possibly getting herself into.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Demi is not even fat.
Y'all are so tired and corny.
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
Yes she did.
By reacting, she not only confirmed w/e Taylor claims but also immediately caused medias everywhere to repost the information about the dancers that was leaked almost immediately after Taylor's interview. Had she not reacted or felt...."guilty"/angry, no one would've associated her with this song and there wouldn't have been any feud at all. Taylor didn't attack anyone but if she did feel attacked, then, well....
No. She, unlike katy perry, has NEVER once pointed fingers at katy perry.
THAT was the start of this beef, you cannot deny that. This beef would've happened if the information leakers, media and those who eagerly and continuously posted shady tweets didn't do so and tried so hard to put a name onto the other party which Taylor REFUSED to name in the first place.
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She never pointed fingers, she tried to remain in the shadows about the whole thing, and tried to hype up the single, as in like "Yeah, I'm gonna rub it all in your face, and you can't do anything about it."
Then again, the song was likely the start of the public beef. Had Taylor not written it, put it on her album, released it as a single, etc., what would Katy have to react to?
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Sin
But neither did Taylor putting the song on her album in the first place, knowing FULLY what she was possibly getting herself into.
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conflicting statement
the song has 0 to do with Katy explicitly
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
conflicting statement
the song has 0 to do with Katy
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Fully understanding the risks of a given situation is a conflicting concept?
bye @ that last part
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by KORDEI
and you are 100% right... but had Taylor not used that exact same card to defend herself every single time a woman isn't a fan of hers, nobody would be using it against her right now. Surely you see how she may come off as hypocritical to some.
"There's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women." - Taylor Swift.
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1. That quote proves that Taylor is dramatic and overreacted. Even a stan like me can see that. She should've just laughed the joke away.
2. In her defense, you must see that the two situations are different.
a) The thing between her and Katy is a PERSONAL CONFLICT, which means that both parties may hold a grudge against one another for a particular reason. And this reason is not gender. In simpler words, Taylor does not criticise Perry (or the subject of the Bad Blood song) because she is a woman.
b) The two female hosts (I forgot their names btw) poked fun at Taylor at the Golden Globe when there is NO personal conflict. The joke based on the portrayal of Taylor as a serial dater. The problem is, no one poked fun as a male serial dater, or a male artist who sings about his experience. On the contrary, Taylor got all the heat for it because being a serial dater is not a well-received image for a WOMAN. So it is SEXISM that Taylor was having problem with. And sexism, correct me if I'm wrong, is an important part of what Feminism is fighting against.
To sum it up, it's NOT against feminism to dislike a woman solely for her actions,, but it's against feminism to poke fun at a woman for sexist reasons.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Sin
Fully understanding the risks of a given situation is a conflicting concept?
bye @ that last part
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which part of the song can you identify has to do explicitly with Katy Perry? I'll wait
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Sin
Yet you're still implying that it's Katy's fault. That is a form of victimization. You're just automatically assuming that
a) Taylor can do no wrong
b) Taylor can tell no lies
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If Taylor is so wrong then why did a big majority vote bad blood grammy video of the year winner? Perhaps a lot of people think katy was wrong. Many think she is right but the grammy proves taylor had a lot of support as well.
It is 2 years old, you will never convince people katy did not out herself, just like i will never convince you Taylor would have written bad blood about anyone stealing her dancers, katy just happened to be that person. Sorry that she and her fans are still hurt over 2 years later. Demi is just strange for bringing it up this late.
I am done, it is like talking in circles, people asking the same questions over and over again.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Sin
She never pointed fingers, she tried to remain in the shadows about the whole thing, and tried to hype up the single, as in like "Yeah, I'm gonna rub it all in your face, and you can't do anything about it."
Then again, the song was likely the start of the public beef. Had Taylor not written it, put it on her album, released it as a single, etc., what would Katy have to react to?
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Yeah, no. You're reaching a little too hard right now.
Taylor has EVERY right to write about whatever she wants to. She made it clear why she's leaving the other party unnamed because she doesn't want a feud. If people didn't bother so eagerly and desperately naming the other party, there would not have been any feud
Why is this so hard to grasp.Getting tired of repeating the same things.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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I can't stand her
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I love Demi but wtf, its' their body
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Taylor has only said that women shouldn't **** shame and body shame each other. She never said that it's wrong for two women to not like each other.
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Member Since: 1/2/2011
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so stupid. Taylor and Katy's problem is a personal one. feminism doesn't mean personal conflict based on gender doesn't exist. what Deni said about their bodies, now that's a body shaming. not normal? what the hell is a normal body? to them, their bodies are pretty normal. not everyone has the same body, she should know this. but then again, Demi is annoying.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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So extra, it's really getting out of hand
Can this girl just enjoy her life and stop saying stupid and ignorant things?
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