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Celeb News: JLo: "#AllLivesMatter"
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#ComeTogether
#WeAreAllOne
#OneWorld
Or some corny **** like that could have gotten her point across. I don't feel bad when these celebrities get lashings anymore.
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Originally posted by Shizuka
And look at the per million tag in the 2015 and 2016. I already can tell you want to be constantly obtuse like how someone told you the cop killer wasn't about BLM but you jumped to talk about Sterling though so I won't waste my time any longer.
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So #NativeLivesMatter is worthy the hashtag?
Or would it be offensive to you guys as well?
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
#ComeTogether
#WereAllOne
#OneWorld
Or some corny **** like that could have gotten her point across. I don't feel bad when these celebrities get lashing anymore.
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Tbh! X 2,000.
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Originally posted by Mr. Loco
So what's wrong with it being too general? Maybe we should close all Wal-Marts because they are "too general" and don't adress specific items you're looking for?
That sound as illogic as what you're saying.
If she wants to support gay rights, it's perfectly okay for her to use #AllLivesMatter, because she addressed that gay lives are as important as everyone else's.
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It's like talking to a brick wall 
#AllLivesMatter is wrong because it's used to dismiss #BlackLivesMatter, the people who created that hashtag don't give a damn about black lives or gay lives. Using the hashtag #GayPride would've been more effective.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
So #NativeLivesMatter is worthy the hashtag?
Or would it be offensive to you guys as well?
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You're trying to start something, but this won't work on me considering I've said many times multiple movements being specific are truly what is best.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Superpower
Percentages of the population
Black: 13%
Latino: 17%
White: 62%
Now do the math and come back to me
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You have to look at the percentage of crime per race though, not at the percentage of the population. Otherwise, you could say that these police statistics are sexist because so few women are shot compared to men despite them representing 50% of the population but no one will say that because these stats are the result of women simply committing far less crime than men.
In fact gender is probably the biggest determinant, even ahead of race. It would be interesting to know.
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Why are people saying the people criticizing her, are accusing her of being racist? She's being criticized for it being insensitive due to the fact that the hashtag was started to undermine the Black Lives Matter movement and hashtag. Of course, it's great that she is supporting the victims of Orlando, but using THAT hash tag, with it's history and divisiveness, wasn't smart. She had plenty of other hashtags to get her point across.
Stop with the "Black people think they matter, and others don't" mess. That doesn't even sound logical. I've never heard a sane person say they don't care about someone else's life. 
And can people stop bringing up black-on-black crime/murder, when 80%+ of the crimes whites commit are against other whites. That isn't even what the discussion of BLM is about. That's a separate issue that has been fought for YEARS.
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Originally posted by Mr. Loco
So what's wrong with it being too general? Maybe we should close all Wal-Marts because they are "too general" and don't adress specific items you're looking for?
That sound as illogic as what you're saying.
If she wants to support gay rights, it's perfectly okay for her to use #AllLivesMatter, because she addressed that gay lives are as important as everyone else's.
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Say you're in the hospital, your dad just got shot, someone comes in and yells 'but I matter too'.
We know, we know you matter, we know everyone matters the same, but right now in this moment in time it's important to give attention to the one that's wounded.
By saying ALM she doesn't make people think of gay struggles, she makes people think of themselves.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
So #NativeLivesMatter is worthy the hashtag?
Or would it be offensive to you guys as well?
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You're clearly fishing for an argument but nope it wouldn't bother me at all, I have NA ancestry.
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Dark red update on Kworb. 
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If a collective group of people are coming together to voice their opinion, then something must be wrong. All of those people who attacked J.lo for her tweet to the point where she had to delete it couldn't be overreacting .
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Originally posted by Techno
Y'all giving me straights dismissing gay issues teas. 
I mean, she probably meant no harm but the way people downplay the issue  She is wrong and deserves to be corrected. |
This!!!
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Originally posted by Mr. Loco
#AllLivesMatter is not concrete, it's global; it addresses all of those you mentioned and more.
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Theres a reason why more specific hashtags/movements like Occupywallstreet, LoveisLove, BlackLIvesMatter etc have had notable impact whilst ALM only claim to relevance is twitter debates. Being specific definitely increases the chance of action being taken. People who use ALM use it as a sentiment and nothing more. I don't believe in endlessly fighting people over it when they're actually supporting equal rights but I do firmly believe that being specific about issues is definitely more effective at triggering change.
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
Why are people saying the people criticizing her, are accusing her of being racist? She's being criticized for it being insensitive due to the fact that the hashtag was started to undermine the Black Lives Matter movement and hashtag. Of course, it's great that she is supporting the victims of Orlando, but using THAT hash tag, with it's history and divisiveness, wasn't smart. She had plenty of other hashtags to get her point across.
Stop with the Black people think they matter, and others don't" mess. That doesn't even sound logical. I've never heard a sane person say they don't care about someone else's life.
And can people stop bringing up black-on-black crime/murder, when 80%+ of the crimes whites commit are against other whites. That isn't even what the discussion of BLM is about. That's a separate issue that has been fought for YEARS. |
Nicely put
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Originally posted by Witch_Privilege
Dark red update on Kworb. |
It's been like that for half a day sis so stop trying to make out it's because of this tweet
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Originally posted by qurl
it truly , truly , truly does not
stop believing the white man's lies , and furthermore , stop w/ the 'global' inclusiveness **** bc the issue is police brutality in America . that's what's being discussed , well in this particular instance J. Lo was referring to that of gay lives , the hashtag All Lives Matter is derivative to something very important to black Americans
u wanna say Palesenti Lives Matter ?? I'm all for it . U want people to care the same way and be as progressive and mobilized online as how organized the BLM movement is ?????? that's up to y'all , for whatever group u wanna fight for. it is YA'LLs responsibility to make the world care. Black Lives Matter is even such s topic of discussion today because of the tireless efforts these people have been putting themselves thru to spread the message AND THAT IS NOT TO DENOUNCE GLOBAL STRUGGLE , but similarly , u can't denounce (black) Americans for creating something almost specifically for black Americans in response to a very large problem that AMERICA has
i get that 'All Lives Matter' doesn't register w/ a lot of people outside of the US and pardon me for assuming that u are foreign but at its core i really do believe BLM to be an American movement w/ the goal of *first* solving a very large and abhorrent issue in America , then trying to filter it to the rest of the world
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#BLM is about police brutality, yeah. But that's not what we're talking about here, JLo supporting the gays is actually what we're talking about.
It's kind of selfish to just focus on the issues that surround you and ignore all others, as all of those movements and persons are important.
So if you're not asian, asian people's lives shouldn't matter? or women's lives? or gay's lives? or white's lives? All of them are important.
#BLM was a good idea that black people created for a good purpose and it means a lot for them, but it can be done so much more and better. As all lives are relevant and we all should have the same rights, that includes using the basis of the movement to help not only black people, but also gay people, latinos, whites, men, women, EVERYONE.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
Why are people saying the people criticizing her, are accusing her of being racist? She's being criticized for it being insensitive due to the fact that the hashtag was started to undermine the Black Lives Matter movement and hashtag. Of course, it's great that she is supporting the victims of Orlando, but using THAT hash tag, with it's history and divisiveness, wasn't smart. She had plenty of other hashtags to get her point across.
Stop with the "Black people think they matter, and others don't" mess. That doesn't even sound logical. I've never heard a sane person say they don't care about someone else's life.
And can people stop bringing up black-on-black crime/murder, when 80%+ of the crimes whites commit are against other whites. That isn't even what the discussion of BLM is about. That's a separate issue that has been fought for YEARS. |
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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Originally posted by Shizuka
You're trying to start something, but this won't work on me considering I've said many times multiple movements being specific are truly what is best.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
You're clearly fishing for an argument but nope it wouldn't bother me at all, I have NA ancestry.
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I'm not trying to start anything. Black people are not at top in total, are not at top in % per Million by 2016; but seem to have a problem with the hashtag #AllLiveMatters
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