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Discussion: Why Is Britney Relevant?
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Lem dragged in his own thread.
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Rico clocking these girls left and right, he may be giving Duca the run for the biggest Britney stan.
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Rico clocking these girls left and right, he may be giving Duca the run for the biggest Britney stan.
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Rico's been clockin' the Britney tea for years on ATRL. Why more people don't recognize him for that when talking about the best stans...IDK.
Oh and Rico, don't forget the "Anti-Britney's" movement she helped began. Not only did she help start genre movements, because of her, a new wave of artists in the way they sung and market themselves had begun because of Britney.
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Originally posted by Foxaylove
Rico's been clockin' the Britney tea for years on ATRL. Why more people don't recognize him for that when talking about the best stans...IDK.
Oh and Rico, don't forget the "Anti-Britney's" movement she helped began. Not only did she help start genre movements, because of her, a new wave of artists in the way they sung and market themselves had begun because of Britney.
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Yes, it's mindblowing how the whole pop scene revolved around her during her peak.
They even created clones and rebellious poseur who trashed her all the time, despite the fact she was the only reason they had a career in the first place.
She literally became the face of pop music.
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Because she captured the hearts of a lot of people back in 1999-2001 and ever since she never disappointed musically. Each of her albums is full of amazing hits accomplished by some of the most amazing music videos in the world.
And throughout all this she kept her amazingly loveable and humble persona.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
say you're just a stan, i'm a little liar.
Get the **** out. BRITNEY was the first of the slew of bubble-gum Pop SOLO FEMALE acts. Yes, there were the boy bands. Yes, there were the few castaways overseas. But BRITNEY began the Jessica, the Christina, the Mandy Moore, the Willa Ford, etc. etc. etc.
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Yeah, except Britney was originally in a group. It was Larry who convinced them that she would better as a solo artist.
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Next, when Britney worked with The Neptunes - they were NOT that much of a hot commodity. Besides working with Kelis, Clipse (their posse), and Jay-Z numerous times, they had never worked with a Pop female - nor really explored such a mainstream area. Plus Britney has always favored a more "urban" sound. Bitch is HOOD. AFTER Britney, you saw The Neptunes a LOT more within mainstream music. Beyonce, Justin, Destiny's Child, Janet, Alicia, etc. But you can sit down, as they were not even at the front of the line as far as who was producing the Hip-Hop/R&B movement at that time. That can go to the likes of Jermaine Dupri, Scott Storch, Rich Harrison, Irv Gotti, Dr. Dre, etc. People Britney did not touch at all.
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**** this noise! "I'm A Slave 4 U" and "Boys" was turned down by JANET. Britney didn't seek them out and discover them like they were some obscure twosome producers. NSYNC worked with the Neptunes BEFORE Britney.
The fact that you think The Neptunes weren't that much of a commodity before Britney is sad.
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Because she's not a ****.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
say you're just a stan, i'm a little liar.
Get the **** out. BRITNEY was the first of the slew of bubble-gum Pop SOLO FEMALE acts. Yes, there were the boy bands. Yes, there were the few castaways overseas. But BRITNEY began the Jessica, the Christina, the Mandy Moore, the Willa Ford, etc. etc. etc.
Next, when Britney worked with The Neptunes - they were NOT that much of a hot commodity. Besides working with Kelis, Clipse (their posse), and Jay-Z numerous times, they had never worked with a Pop female - nor really explored such a mainstream area. Plus Britney has always favored a more "urban" sound. Bitch is HOOD. AFTER Britney, you saw The Neptunes a LOT more within mainstream music. Beyonce, Justin, Destiny's Child, Janet, Alicia, etc. But you can sit down, as they were not even at the front of the line as far as who was producing the Hip-Hop/R&B movement at that time. That can go to the likes of Jermaine Dupri, Scott Storch, Rich Harrison, Irv Gotti, Dr. Dre, etc. People Britney did not touch at all.
And Saba, girl, you still lurking this damn site for your Britney fix?
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clocked.
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Originally posted by the floacist
Pop was already brought back before Britney hit the scene. Hanson, the Backstreet Boys and the Spice Girls did that. Britney didn't even want to make a pop record, but because it was the trend that's what she ended up doing.
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hanson? those one hit wonders??
anyway Britney said that she always loved pop. so check your sources honey.
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Good question. Marketing is the only thing really keeping her alive.
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Originally posted by the floacist
Yeah, except Britney was originally in a group. It was Larry who convinced them that she would better as a solo artist.
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You always are trying that argument of Britney once being in a group. She 'almost' was in a group. Britney felt that she wanted a solo career more and dropped the idea of being in the group. No contracts were drawn/signed, no performances were made together, no songs were recorded, and so on. Britney before that was a signed solo artist at 14 years old to Boyz II Men's label that folded not that long afterward.
Rico was establishing that Britney was at the forefront of the Bubblegum pop wave for solo female artists, which she was. When anyone cite the major influences of that time, her name is instantaneously one of the first names to be mentioned. Label executives tried to mold and market their female artists after Britney because she was the model artist for record labels (See Christina, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore, Willa Ford, and so on).
Then she also created a category known as the "Anti-Britney's" (Avril, P!nk, and so on). They were the ones that rebelled against everything of what Britney is and how to market yourself exactly like her. Avril was very vocal about it from the very beginning in 2002.
If Britney wasn't the main female singer leading the Pop wave at the time then who was?
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**** this noise! "I'm A Slave 4 U" and "Boys" was turned down by JANET. Britney didn't seek them out and discover them like they were some obscure twosome producers. NSYNC worked with the Neptunes BEFORE Britney.
The fact that you think The Neptunes weren't that much of a commodity before Britney is sad.
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N'Sync worked with Neptunes before Britney, but they weren't working with everyone and their momma in mainstream music. She worked with them after hearing the studio work done with N'Sync. It wasn't like she worked with them after they became a hot commodity all of a sudden. She got in on it before most started to do so, which is what Rico was trying to say. Britney wasn't the first to work with them, but she definitely wasn't asking them to work with her after they blew up. She was part of the few artists that helped spread their brand. Fact of the matter remains, Britney was one of the few females to get Pharrell to make some good tunes.
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I see floacist is trying it.......as usual.
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My points are true
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Originally posted by UclaBoi
hanson? those one hit wonders??
anyway Britney said that she always loved pop. so check your sources honey.
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Doesn't matter if they had one hit or not, they sold a lot of albums and they were HUGELY popular. Their presence along with others brought back the pop scene.
Britney said herself she didn't originally intend on making a pop record, those are her words.
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For me, a big part of Britney's appeal is the fact she went through media hell and has come out still awesome.
She's the after to Rihanna's before.
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
I see floacist is trying it.......as usual.
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He could be checking NSYNC's current position on the charts...
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
Stacks up in what sense? Rihanna isn't as big as B.Girl nor will she ever be as big as Britney or even accomplish half of what Britney did. With each generation/decade there's that one defining pop stars who's above all, before Madonna there was Cher, after Madonna came Britney, Gaga is huge right now, there HASN'T been a female pop star this big since Britney Spears and that is a fact. Britney isn't competing with these girls out, she's before them and ahead of the game because she's already established and EMBEDDED in pop culture and pop music and always will be just like Madonna and M.J. because those three, and only those three artists defined pop music while Britney redefined it. Gaga is great and I'm a fan, but she isn't doing anything we haven't seen before. M.I.A. told no lies when she said Gaga is a good copy cat.
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And this is why you aren't included under the term "general public".
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Originally posted by the floacist
Yeah, except Britney was originally in a group. It was Larry who convinced them that she would better as a solo artist.
**** this noise! "I'm A Slave 4 U" and "Boys" was turned down by JANET. Britney didn't seek them out and discover them like they were some obscure twosome producers. NSYNC worked with the Neptunes BEFORE Britney.
The fact that you think The Neptunes weren't that much of a commodity before Britney is sad.
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I don't give a damn if Britney even released 8 albums with that "group". The fact of the matter is Britney began the female bubblegum Pop movement, when the bands/groups were dominating. She stood out on her OWN, and began a movement of her own like no other new female had done since the likes of Madonna, Whitney, & Mariah. That isn't going to change 13 years after the bitch caused a storm in the music industry, just because you want it to.
As far as The Neptunes go, what I said isn't a lie. They had not worked with a Pop female. Janet did not record "Slave" or "Boys", therefore they did NOT work with her. She sure as hell had them come make a remix to "Son Of A Gun" after the fact, though. N'Sync? Did they not have The Neptunes come REMIX "Girlfriend"? Which was in 2002? After "Slave" had surfaced in August 2001/surely recorded months prior? Please inform me of any other song they did with The Neptunes, because Wade Robson produced the original version of the song, thus not dubbing the name The Neptunes. I'll return for the answer - as I really want to know.
And they weren't. You can check their credentials. Love Pharrell, Neptunes, and N*E*R*D, but their reign wasn't thick and didn't control the charts the way I am meaning, so yeah you can find it sad - but won't change the fact.
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Originally posted by Foxaylove
Rico's been clockin' the Britney tea for years on ATRL. Why more people don't recognize him for that when talking about the best stans...IDK.
Oh and Rico, don't forget the "Anti-Britney's" movement she helped began. Not only did she help start genre movements, because of her, a new wave of artists in the way they sung and market themselves had begun because of Britney.
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How could I forget them! Britney did it all, and continuing to.
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Originally posted by Wilkes
Her discography of course and her impact.
Old Britney keeps the New flop Britney alive.
Old Britney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ********* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Britney.
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Now the gates to this domain may be closed with the lingering thought of this tru tea.
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