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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#2)
Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Excited for new music! Let's reminisce HA career. Posting the Singles Rate in a bit so the new members can have the experience!  |
Stop dragging that corpse bb. Let it die pissfully. 
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Member Since: 9/17/2012
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There are 35 tickets left for the Berlin show to sell out  If that show doesn't end up sold out, I'll make sure I find those 35 people 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I feel very guilty making this 
Do you think I should add those grammy trophies?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Nope, it's not even explicit 
This is still the best
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Member Since: 3/10/2012
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Originally posted by dragon
Unedited version of The Hot Desk interview
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Watch for kiiis
Fave drink is Diet Coke 
Fave song is Hot 'n' Cold 
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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I love Heartbeats. I can't believe Taylor knows it. 
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Roxie
nnnn I just saw the (closed) Taylor lesbian thread from last night and I RAN in 
Expose the Lord, gurls.
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Yassssss
We should make a blog
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Originally posted by JakeKills
A mess at y'all having a Lesbian Lord thread without mentioning Her friendships with the VS models and all of Her songs without gendered pronouns (SOG, Treacherous, etc).
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but we did mention the two most important ones Ours and Tear Drops on my Gutiar 
never listened to Treacherous 
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Originally posted by Roxie
I'm just pressed I didn't get in in time to say that as a fellow lesbian I can feel her gayness through the screen.  |
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straight from the source
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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How could ATW not enter Hot 100 chart? All these Grammy things makes me sad
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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ATW sold less than expected (not surprising for me, though) GP is not here for her country songs anymore, unless she collabs with the country music legends.
Btw, Hot N Cold her fave song  Not surprising she's working with MM then
Another btw, she didin't even mention ACM awards, i remember last year she tweeted like a huge news when the nominations were announced. She's also not interested in country music awards anymore .
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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I don't think She's interested in the ACMs anymore given how shady they are to Her. But good for Her if She doesn't acknowledge them anymore
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Her only song in Top 400 right now is IKYWT. And it's out of Top 300
compare WANEGBT's longevity to Love Story and YBWM
But if she goes back to country, I agree with you anticore, no one is here for her country side anymore
Save her career T-Pain. Drag her to hip hop music
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by anticore
ATW sold less than expected (not surprising for me, though) GP is not here for her country songs anymore, unless she collabs with the country music legends.
Btw, Hot N Cold her fave song Not surprising she's working with MM then
Another btw, she didin't even mention ACM awards, i remember last year she tweeted like a huge news when the nominations were announced. She's also not interested in country music awards anymore . |
She knows that they are going to snub and her use for promotion so I am really happy that she is paying dust to them.
Taylor should include elements of country in her next album but make it more pop like Red. And then submit the album to Best Pop Album. She should just abandon those country awards who just use her. The ACMs, CMAs and all those other country music awards will be begging her to just perform or even make an appearance because without Taylor, the ratings will go really down.
I mean I can understand that Red is pop and not country and therefore it should not be eligible for any country awards. But what hurts and what is really disgusting is that they still nominate it in the biggest categories, and then snub her just to get ratings and the excuse is, it's not country enough. If it's not country enough, then why nominate it in the first place, just to get ratings? They all so against her that she is not that much country anymore. Well in my opinion, they should bow down to her because she is the one of re-introduced country. If hadn't been Taylor, country music would have been extinct (at least from the mainstream). She did so much for them, performed at every award show whenever they asked her to and then after it all, they just snub her and call her 'not country enough'. I agree that Pinnacle Award was big but then I don't think that the other album which won Album of The Year at all the country award shows was more deserving than Taylor. It was the first time a country artist had tried to experiment and had been successful in doing so, and they go and snub her. My only problem with them is that if they think Taylor is not country, don't nominate her and don't give her those awards but please don't nominate her just for getting ratings and then snub her with some other flop album by some so called country artist who is country just because he sings about trucks!?
And the manipulation the public vote at the country awards and not giving Taylor that EOTY award was the epitome of doing fraud in my opinion. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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@alltoowell %100 agreed.
IKYWT is #38, EHC is #95 and 22 is #110 at Itunes here in Turkey. And Red (album) is #33. And IKYWT still gets a lot of airplay on radios and some music channels here, Turkey's definitely here for more pop songs from Taylor I'm sure same applies for most of the Europe, South America and Africa.
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Member Since: 10/22/2010
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Originally posted by anticore
ATW sold less than expected (not surprising for me, though) GP is not here for her country songs anymore, unless she collabs with the country music legends.
Btw, Hot N Cold her fave song Not surprising she's working with MM then
Another btw, she didin't even mention ACM awards, i remember last year she tweeted like a huge news when the nominations were announced. She's also not interested in country music awards anymore . |
You keep saying 'Taylor is no longer country/doesnt care'. You could not be more wrong. I'm not even going to begin but an ATRL stan from Turkey really has no clue about Taylor's place in Nashville. 
Also, you really think her career can span decades, like she intends it to, with Max Martin pop songs? Logic evades the concept.
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Member Since: 10/22/2010
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Originally posted by alltoowell
She knows that they are going to snub and her use for promotion so I am really happy that she is paying dust to them.
Taylor should include elements of country in her next album but make it more pop like Red. And then submit the album to Best Pop Album. She should just abandon those country awards who just use her. The ACMs, CMAs and all those other country music awards will be begging her to just perform or even make an appearance because without Taylor, the ratings will go really down.
I mean I can understand that Red is pop and not country and therefore it should not be eligible for any country awards. But what hurts and what is really disgusting is that they still nominate it in the biggest categories, and then snub her just to get ratings and the excuse is, it's not country enough. If it's not country enough, then why nominate it in the first place, just to get ratings? They all so against her that she is not that much country anymore. Well in my opinion, they should bow down to her because she is the one of re-introduced country. If hadn't been Taylor, country music would have been extinct (at least from the mainstream). She did so much for them, performed at every award show whenever they asked her to and then after it all, they just snub her and call her 'not country enough'. I agree that Pinnacle Award was big but then I don't think that the other album which won Album of The Year at all the country award shows was more deserving than Taylor. It was the first time a country artist had tried to experiment and had been successful in doing so, and they go and snub her. My only problem with them is that if they think Taylor is not country, don't nominate her and don't give her those awards but please don't nominate her just for getting ratings and then snub her with some other flop album by some so called country artist who is country just because he sings about trucks!?
And the manipulation the public vote at the country awards and not giving Taylor that EOTY award was the epitome of doing fraud in my opinion. |
You forget that all those other superstar country acts were honoring her. If she ditches country altogether then I say that is the beginning of the end of her career. She should be firstly and foremost a musician. Nobody wants another Britney Spears.
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Member Since: 9/17/2012
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Canadian album sales: @TaylorSwift13, Red 310,119.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by anticore
@alltoowell %100 agreed.
IKYWT is #38, EHC is #95 and 22 is #110 at Itunes here in Turkey. And Red (album) is #33. And IKYWT still gets a lot of airplay on radios and some music channels here, Turkey's definitely here for more pop songs from Taylor I'm sure same applies for most of the Europe, South America and Africa. |
True. I would also like to add that WANEGBT's and IKYWT's chart performance speak for itself. It has charted in so many other countries and had charted quite decently to say the least. Biggest example is Japan.
As far as artistic integrity is considered as some say, I agree that WANEGBT wasn't one of those songs which could represent Taylor in a mature way but then can anyone suggest me any other song from Red, Speak Now, Fearless or the Debut album which could have been more suitable lead single for Red. WANEGBT was a summer smash it was actually one of the main reasons why Red had 1 Million + opening because country radio is not here for Taylor anymore.
Releasing songs like WANEGBT that to very rarely in such an early stage of her career won't hurt her artistic integrity at all, at least in the long run. It just shows how Taylor is so diverse and can rule any season.
In my opinion, LP5 will be more pop and will have one of the greatest tunes of hers and as an album will be outstanding because it is what Red had missing. Speak Now felt like an album of songs but Red felt like accumulation of tunes. I hope you are understanding what I am saying. So my opinion is LP5 will be more pop but more mature at the same time and you will immediately realize it when you hear it. I am here for Taylor breaking Red's opening sales and performing outstanding worldwide.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Pristine
You keep saying 'Taylor is no longer country/doesnt care'. You could not be more wrong. I'm not even going to begin but an ATRL stan from Turkey really has no clue about Taylor's place in Nashville.
Also, you really think her career can span decades, like she intends it to, with Max Martin pop songs? Logic evades the concept. |
I know her status at Nashville of course, and i also don't think she'll work with MM forever. What im thinking is , she may go back to her country roots in LP6 or LP7, but this is just not the right time for it. And regardless of what im thinking she'll work with him, all the indications show this, so i try to make people be ready for that and support her, you can see all the negative reactions about MM, someone had to defend this decision, so i chose to defend it.
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Member Since: 9/17/2012
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Originally posted by anticore
@alltoowell %100 agreed.
IKYWT is #38, EHC is #95 and 22 is #110 at Itunes here in Turkey. And Red (album) is #33. And IKYWT still gets a lot of airplay on radios and some music channels here, Turkey's definitely here for more pop songs from Taylor I'm sure same applies for most of the Europe, South America and Africa. |
Nope, Africa has been here for her since Love Story.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Pristine
You forget that all those other superstar country acts were honoring her. If she ditches country altogether then I say that is the beginning of the end of her career. She should be firstly and foremost a musician. Nobody wants another Britney Spears.
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In no way I want Taylor to become Britney. What I want to say it that:
1. I agree that country acts respect her and I don't think leaving country will make her less respectable. If she keeps singing songs having quality, she will still keep gaining respect.
2. Why do you think that one has to be anything but pop for an artist to survive and have longevity. Plus, Taylor will never go full Pop. By Pop, I mean the overall sound is mainstream but every song will have elements of different genre. Also by Pop, I don't mean bubble-gum pop but quality pop songs, Love Story is country-pop, IKYWT is pop etc, all of her songs are country-pop or pop if you see! She was never full country not full Pop. And she will continue to do so but instead of just country, she will try to include other genres into her 'Pop' songs and try to expand. And it's what Taylor is aiming at. She has her own genre and I don't I will ever doubt her music.
3. She will continue to stay a musician and make quality pop songs with other genres included in it. No one wants her to sing lyrics which Katy is singing. Taylor has her own genre and is never and will never be full country or pop. By more pop, I mean overall sound is pop and all the songs will have other genres including country..
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