| |
Fan Base: Archived: Kelly Clarkson (#1)
Member Since: 6/29/2012
Posts: 13,597
|
Why do you guys always bring Rihanna into these messes? 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/28/2012
Posts: 10,506
|
I actually have to agree with edge, rihanna and kesha and you might as well add 1D..can come out with with the most shittiest songs but they'll still do well because the radio is their bit*h and the huge fanbases make up for anything lacking in their songs. Even if its generic
kelly doesnt have that luxury. Small fanbase and not as strong radio support, but moderate decent amount
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/27/2012
Posts: 15,057
|
Quote:
Originally posted by rivers
Why do you guys always bring Rihanna into these messes? |
We want Kelly to smash, so obviously we have to use examples. What better example than Rih? 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/27/2012
Posts: 15,057
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Mhs90
I actually have to agree with edge, rihanna and kesha and you might as well add 1D..can come out with with the most shittiest songs but they'll still do well because the radio is their bit*h and the huge fanbases make up for anything lacking in their songs. Even if its generic
kelly doesnt have that luxury. Small fanbase and not as strong radio support, but moderate decent amount
|
Eh, but Kelly keeps proving that her first singles CAN and WILL shoot up (albeit much slower) on iTunes. She just needs a song that can stay there.
MLWSWY stayed there for 2 weeks, while MKIA and NA stayed in the top 10 for a few days...
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/15/2012
Posts: 5,220
|
Quote:
Originally posted by jpsketch
We want Kelly to smash, so obviously we have to use examples. What better example than Rih? |
Adele
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/5/2011
Posts: 16,846
|
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
I can't at Kevin trying very hard to win his MKIA award. With his faux Rihanna love. With his faux Britney love.
Kevin, I like you, but SO much about you has become contrived and try hard.
Ke$ha may have not deliver the hot song people wanted but it's generic as **** and the GP are gonna feed into it, especially since she's been out of the scene for a while and she's the only one with a newly released upbeat song. You claim Rihanna's lead singles have no longevity and yet has WFL, Umbrella under her belt, 10 and 7 weeks at #1. When will Kelly? Even her other singles were on the charts and year end charts for the longest time while Kelly dropped the **** off after the month MLWSWY debuted. Breakaway can't be your receipts for everything. That was three eras ago.
In the end, Kelly has a new image and she needs to continue that new image with a new sound. With that two together, she will be unstoppable. But for now, it is ridiculous to count out the two biggest digital sellers who are charting high on the lists right now. |
I think you need to read my post again
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
You claim Rihanna's lead singles have no longevity and yet has WFL, Umbrella under her belt, 10 and 7 weeks at #1.
|
Quote:
Originally posted by KevinKDC
Diamond is as mellow as Mr.Know It All, it will probably have more success but it won't have longevity as any of her other lead singles, this is easily her weakest lead single to date.
|
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Even her other singles were on the charts and year end charts for the longest time while Kelly dropped the **** off after the month MLWSWY debuted.
|
Seriously?
Song/ Total Weeks On The Charts
My life would suck without you 22
I do not hook up 20
Already gone 26
Mr. Know it all 21
Stronger (what doesn't kill you) 21
Song/Total Weeks On Charts
California king bed 12
Cheers (Drink to that) 15
We found love (f/ Calvin Harris) 27
You da one 12
Talk that talk (f/ Jay-Z) 14
Here is a source before you claim I make up things again
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
[CENTER]I can't at Kevin trying very hard to win his MKIA award. With his faux Rihanna love. With his faux Britney love.
|
Trying very hard? Why do I need to? It was my opinion to say that Diamonds and Die Young aren't contenders for Kelly, you were the one coming on here bashing my opinion and started bashing Kelly. And why do you have the need to go personal? This has nothing to do with me or you. It has to do with the lack of effort of Rihanna and Kesha of their recent single, which is my honest opinion.
I know Rihanna is your Goddess or whatever, but not everyone needs to approve of everything she does. And for the record I am a casual fans of a lot of artists out there including Rihanna. I have bashed Kelly before with Dark Side haven't I? Not because I love or like someone doesn't mean I have to like or love everything they do. Rihanna, Kelly and Kesha are normal people just like us who make mistakes in their careers just like everyone does.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/27/2012
Posts: 15,057
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Eyarimu
Adele
|
Adele has had one successful era so far. 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 11/23/2011
Posts: 46,048
|
nnn;
At him claiming I went personal when he's the one who aired his dirty laundry to the whole base. 
I'm done with this mess. You can't fight with someone who believes Kelly always has strong/smash lead singles when she clearly doesn't and think she'll easily sit perched at the top. That would be great if that happened, but again, that **** will never fly if she releases some dumb ******** that could have fit onto the B side of Stronger. Innovation is key and without that, Kelly will have another flop on her hands.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/27/2012
Posts: 15,057
|
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
nnn;
At him claiming I went personal when he's the one who aired his dirty laundry to the whole base.
I'm done with this mess. You can't fight with someone who believes Kelly always has strong/smash lead singles when she clearly doesn't and think she'll easily sit perched at the top. That would be great if that happened, but again, that **** will never fly if she releases some dumb ******** that could have fit onto the B side of Stronger. Innovation is key and without that, Kelly will have another flop on her hands. |
Get Up. 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/5/2011
Posts: 16,846
|
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
nnn;
At him claiming I went personal when he's the one who aired his dirty laundry to the whole base.
I'm done with this mess. You can't fight with someone who believes Kelly always has strong/smash lead singles when she clearly doesn't and think she'll easily sit perched at the top. That would be great if that happened, but again, that **** will never fly if she releases some dumb ******** that could have fit onto the B side of Stronger. Innovation is key and without that, Kelly will have another flop on her hands. |
You need to stop pulling words out of my mouth. When or where have I ever said that Kelly releases strong lead singles 
But let's leave it to that. If one thing we can agree on, is that if Kelly releases another MKIA as a lead single it will flop indefinitely.
Let's just hope Kelly and RCA are on their A-list.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/28/2011
Posts: 6,626
|
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
nnn;
At him claiming I went personal when he's the one who aired his dirty laundry to the whole base.
I'm done with this mess. You can't fight with someone who believes Kelly always has strong/smash lead singles when she clearly doesn't and think she'll easily sit perched at the top. That would be great if that happened, but again, that **** will never fly if she releases some dumb ******** that could have fit onto the B side of Stronger. Innovation is key and without that, Kelly will have another flop on her hands. |
Innovative my ass. Katy Perry has stuck to the same ****** formula for her songs and has the most successful era (singles-wise) in recent history. Dark Side was a new sound for Kelly, the only reason it flopped was because of lack of promotion. How many mother****ing times has this been discussed?
Let me log out.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/9/2011
Posts: 12,450
|
Quote:
Originally posted by lpd446
|
 something smart at least!
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 3,895
|
I want something like MLWSWY too! I think it actually seems likely since she has those hit producers and said that she can only write love songs now she's with Brandon.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/5/2011
Posts: 16,846
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MissBreakaway
I want something like MLWSWY too! I think it actually seems likely since she has those hit producers and said that she can only write love songs now she's with Brandon.
|
Yeah I'm hoping to be honest. I will seriously cringe if I hear another boy-bashing song 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/28/2011
Posts: 13,440
|
A mess 
Anyway, I just heard the new Rih song on the radio. It's decent, actually. It doesn't hold a candle to WFL or WHYB but I think it will perform somewhat well. I can't with people thinking she's gone in a whole different direction, etc. There's nothing new or innovative about Diamonds. It's just not the tempo you'd expect for one of her lead singles. Let's not reach. It was the same with MKIA. It wasn't anything new or fresh, just typical Kelly in a different tempo.
But back on topic, Kelly has a great chance to perform well against these songs if she releases something trendy. Not here for another negative blah blah. Let's get this dance/sex smash out. If Stronger were Kelly's lead, I think she easily could have shot to the top just as fast as any of the other girls. We just need another obvious smash.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/9/2011
Posts: 12,450
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MissBreakaway
I want something like MLWSWY too! I think it actually seems likely since she has those hit producers and said that she can only write love songs now she's with Brandon.
|
We know she wrote happy sh*t and she's working with amazing producers, likely we gonna have another mlwswy 2.0 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 11/23/2011
Posts: 46,048
|
All I know is that I can no longer trust the words of someone who thought Your Body would smash
On Your Body debuting Top 20 on Hot 100:
Quote:
Originally posted by KevinKDC
It's already #21 on Itunes and with the voice promo it will go top 20.
|
Your Body debuts at #34 on the Hot 100.
Ke$ha and Rihanna will remain as tough competitors for Kelly. Try, however, will not. It's so pedantic. It might smash if Kelly's vocals were on it but P!nk's just doesn't do it for me. I want Kelly's Bad Romance era to come upon us. It would be epic.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/28/2012
Posts: 10,506
|
Quote:
Originally posted by lpd446
|
Really? Though Katy's vocals are horrific, her album did go into a different direction and her songs had unique uncomparable productions. The productions itself (i.e ET) carried her to #1s
kelly's problem is different. Her vocals are amazing, its the production and promo thats the problem. Her sound isnt changing and thats why "innovation" is needed to keep her with today's dance, house and definetely anti-pop rock trend thats been really increasing this year
Her covers of other artist's current, non outdated songs have proven that she can do the same thing but 50x better if she thought about changing her sound. But sadly she doesnt which is why i call her a tad lazy sometimes.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/28/2011
Posts: 13,440
|
Quote:
Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
All I know is that I can no longer trust the words of someone who thought Your Body would smash
On Your Body debuting Top 20 on Hot 100:
Your Body debuts at #34 on the Hot 100.
Ke$ha and Rihanna will remain as tough competitors for Kelly. Try, however, will not. It's so pedantic. It might smash if Kelly's vocals were on it but P!nk's just doesn't do it for me. I want Kelly's Bad Romance era to come upon us. It would be epic. |
I just came a little with Kelly and Bad Romance next to each other
I'm here for that.
Try will smash though. A song doesn't climb to the top 10 of iTunes just from a CD release if it has no smash potential. Radio will eat it up and clearly iTunes will as well. I expect at LEAST top 5 for Try. Though I don't know how big P!nk is on streaming.
And omg, Bad Romance just started playing. It's a sign. 
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 11/23/2011
Posts: 46,048
|
The thing is, if Dark Side is as holy and god amazing as everyone is claiming it to be, it should have been a mediocre hit. Regardless of how little promo there was, she did perform it twice on national television. She did have Duets to keep her in the public eye.
Payphone was huge and smashed like none other. Maroon 5's next single has basically had ZERO promo and yet, it's scary how well it's doing. You can be the greatest singer in the world, but if the material isn't up to par...
That being said, Kelly needs more help writing lyrics, she needs to change up the subject matter of her lyrics (which is happening ever since Brandon) and she needs more help getting better melodies with better producers. That's the only reason why she went from being great to a superstar from Thankful to Breakaway.
|
|
|
|
|
|
