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Poll: Future of Country Music: Hunter Hayes or Luke Bryan?
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God of Country: Hunter Hayes
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57.14% |
Current Successful Male Country Artist: Luke Bryan
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Originally posted by Bie
Because king is leading the poll?
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Yeah, 'cause atrl polls are more important than talent and sales. (?)
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What is this!?
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Originally posted by Bie
Because king is leading the poll?
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You think this poll has any relevance outside of the forum site
We should not offend Hunter and Luke's fans since this poll barely collected 100 votes when Hunters album debuted with 69K and Luke debuted with 500k (its more but its not the point). We shouldn't offend their fans since clearly this poll would not do justice of the opinions of those fans
But if it helps people sleep at night, yes this is where Hunter Hayes is beating Luke Bryan, on a poll for a 7,000 forum member site
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Originally posted by Cristhian
Yeah, 'cause atrl polls are more important than talent and sales. (?)
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Tell it!
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Originally posted by Cristhian
Yeah, 'cause atrl polls are more important than talent and sales. (?)
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Aren't we on a music forum? This is why they made poll option available.
I don't know If a poll's result is more important than talents and sales but HH wrote every song for his albums and other artists. HH plays every kind of musical instrument. HH has critical acclaims. HH has his look. HH debut album went platinum. I can't say the same things about the other one. He might have his sales since he's at his peak now. But that's it,
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Originally posted by Zune
You think this poll has any relevance outside of the forum site
We should not offend Hunter and Luke's fans since this poll barely collected 100 votes when Hunters album debuted with 69K and Luke debuted with 500k (its more but its not the point). We shouldn't offend their fans since clearly this poll would not do justice of the opinions of those fans
But if it helps people sleep at night, yes this is where Hunter Hayes is beating Luke Bryan, on a poll for a 7,000 forum member site
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Why don't we just compare a second album to a second album? Isn't that fair?
Oh wait, this is the only way that Luke could win over HH. I get it.
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Originally posted by Bie
Why don't we just compare a second album to a second album? Isn't that fair?
Oh wait, this is the only way that Luke could win over HH. I get it.
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Hunter's debut was heavily discounted though. It was like $7 on iTunes for the LONGEST before Wanted hit it big. And even during its peak at one point.
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Originally posted by Bie
Why don't we just compare a second album to a second album? Isn't that fair?
Oh wait, this is the only way that Luke could win over HH. I get it.
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It's fairer to compare the year when it was released.
2011
Tailgates & Tanlines: US: 2,285,000+
Hunter Hayes: US: 1,138,000+
Anyways, Doin' My Thing is officially platinum, Storyline will never see that light.
Longevity > front-loaded messes.
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Originally posted by Tennis Court
Hunter's debut was heavily discounted though. It was like $7 on iTunes for the LONGEST before Wanted hit it big. And even during its peak at one point.
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Who in the industry didn't discount their albums?
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Originally posted by Bie
Why don't we just compare a second album to a second album? Isn't that fair?
Oh wait, this is the only way that Luke could win over HH. I get it.
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I feel as if you haven't read all of the posts in this thread as I have made an analysis about their second albums, how one of them was a flop in comparison to their debut and how one grew as an artist/grew in numbers
I posted it below just as a refresher
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Originally posted by Zune
this last bump is for me to give the voters one last chance to reconsider their answers they chose in the poll in the above
HDD Album Sales this week
-- 3 HUNTER HAYES ATLANTIC 69,284 -- STORYLINE |
9 7 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 23,716 +44% CRASH MY PARTY |
How many times Hunter Hayes' Storyline outsold Luke Bryan's Crash My Party this week: 2.921403 (according to HDD numbers)
For historical purposes, Hunter did outsell Luke Bryan with only their debut numbers for their second albums:
Luke's Second Album debut #'s:
6 doin' my thing luke bryan 57,503
But consider this.
Singles Peaks of Hunter versus Luke Bryan released up to their second albums (on country airplay charts):
Hunter:
"Storm Warning" 14
"Wanted" 1
"Somebody's Heartbreak" 1
"I Want Crazy" 2
Everybody's Got Somebody but Me" (featuring Jason Mraz) 15
"Invisible" 19 |
Luke:
"All My Friends Say" 5
"We Rode in Trucks" 33
2008 "Country Man" 10
2009 "Do I" 2 |
So Hunter has had more opportunities to gain the spotlight/attention to Hunter then Luke when talking about general singles promotion (I didn't even add the fact that Hunter Hayes would have some Pop Music buyers since he had a crossover hit with Wanted)
Well okay maybe it isn't fair to compare promotion of the last album and really I can't really use Hunters debut album singles to make a point about Hunters future in country music. Well then fine. What about this:
Their debut album sales:
Hunter's Debut Album sold: 1,135,000 |
Luke's debut album sold: US: 481,000 |
In comparison of Hunters debut album sales and Luke's debut album sales, Luke being able to get 11.95% of his first album sales in Doin' my thing's first week album sales (57503/481000 = .1195). That is stellar to see considering Luke's debut album didn't even get enough sales to reach gold. Hunter on the other hand could only get 6.08% of Hunter'a first album sales in Storyline's first week album sales (69000/113500).
So for those who voted I have a question for y'all
When you were voting, what exactly were you considering when you were voting. Hunters talents as a musician and writer? If I had to be honest that is a great quality to have as a musician. Maybe the OP could have made the question a bit clearer as to what a "future in country music" is. See the only thing that we can really debate in this thread besides the reality of the numbers between Luke and Hunter is indeed the talents of these artists and how each artist could ideally survive in the country music industry.
Well here are some of my points about what Hunter and Luke have to offer:
-Hunter can play many a instruments besides his vocals, so he can consider doing production.
- as long as both Hunter and Luke doing do anything to their vocal cords, they can be singing til retirement.
- Both Hunter and Luke can write songs for them or other artists if they choose.
These points are obvious. What isn't obvious is who is going to remain a top selling country music performer longer (which is what the OP is implying). That title will belong to Luke Bryan. When was the last time a male country artist has had 3 top 20 billboard Hot 100 singles with solely country radio support? Luke Bryan. Luke took a longer time to accumulate a huge following and fanbase, but at least from album to album you could see Luke's growth as top selling artist. With numbers that Hunter produced this week, its definitely not a good sign that Hunter will become the it-male country singer Luke is. But that is in no way meaning Hunter cannot support other artists with his songwriting/production if Hunter cannot get a hit single off of Storyline.
Anyways if you all read through this, please tell me in what aspect did you judge the broad question of "Future of Country Music: Hunter Hayes vs. Luke Bryan".
I understand perspective is everything, so I would love to understand at what angle people are voting for when they think about the future of country music being Hunter Hayes or Luke Bryan.
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Originally posted by Cristhian
It's fairer to compare the year when it was released.
2011
Tailgates & Tanlines: US: 2,285,000+
Hunter Hayes: US: 1,138,000+
Anyways, Doin' My Thing is officially platinum, Storyline will never see that light.
Longevity > front-loaded messes.
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I screamed at this whole post
1. It's not fair cos Storyline hasnt done his job yet.
2. How did you know that Storyline would never reach platinum? HH's first debuted with only 18k but you look at its sales now no one expected that.
3. Are you talking about longevity? HHS' first album has spent 118 weeks on charts already and still counting.
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Originally posted by Zune
I feel as if you haven't read all of the posts in this thread as I have made an analysis about their second albums, how one of them was a flop in comparison to their debut and how one grew as an artist/grew in numbers
I posted it below just as a refresher
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I did read it but I don't care cos Storyline hasn't done its job yet and its opening week sales are bigger than Luke's second album's debut
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Obviously Hunter, idk nor care for the other
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Originally posted by Bie
I screamed at this whole post
1. It's not fair cos Storyline hasnt done his job yet.
2. How did you know that Storyline would never reach platinum? HH's first debuted with only 18k but you look at its sales now no one expected that.
3. Are you talking about longevity? HHS' first album has spent 118 weeks on charts already and still counting.
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1. Fair point, but I haven't seen any moves by Hunter Hayes record label to recover from Hunters flop lead single when everyone clearly knows the album release week was the time to release a new single to save the album sales
2. I'm sure this is a lie, you might have expected it.
3. oh I'm sorry, since when are we talking about anyone's debut album? (from the post you quoted). I wouldn't be too proud of the album charting in the middle below 150's because in a few weeks his debut will be gone. As for his second album, well, Hunter will have to do a lot of damage control to save his album sales
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Originally posted by Bie
I did read it but I don't care cos Storyline hasn't done its job yet and its opening week sales are bigger than Luke's second album's debut
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Oh don't worry I will stay watching the numbers as well (since I usually see Luke's Crash My Party in the top 20 usually any given sales week thus far) because the future and the fact that Storyline "isn't over" is the only vision for anyone to hope this album will succeed at this point. Otherwise this album will be a flop.
Now what could likely happen is Storyline might get another minor hit song and the album would be finished before Christmas. It won't be my fault if the future singles flop and Luke sold more copies of Doin My Thing because his later singles on Luke's second album actually succeeded :celetial5:
At that point it will only go to show (for this second album of hunters anyway) that people are not here for his music unlike his previous album (also shown by the ratios of buyers in purchasing Hunter/Luke's second albums over their debut album sales).
So I'll be watching to see if people will finally turn up or not for Storyline
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Originally posted by Zune
1. Fair point, but I haven't seen any moves by Hunter Hayes record label to recover from Hunters flop lead single when everyone clearly knows the album release week was the time to release a new single to save the album sales
2. I'm sure this is a lie, you might have expected it.
3.oh I'm sorry, since when are we talking about anyone's debut album? (from the post you quoted). I wouldn't be too proud of the album charting in the middle below 150's because in a few weeks his debut will be gone. As for his second album, well, Hunter will have to do a lot of damage control to save his album sales
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1. HH and his record label want longevity. They will release second single soon
2. I did expect it to go gold, not platinum.
3. Speak for your fave's first and second album. Charting is charting. Charting is better than not charting.
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Originally posted by Zune
Oh don't worry I will stay watching the numbers as well (since I usually see Luke's Crash My Party in the top 20 usually any given sales week thus far) because the future and the fact that Storyline "isn't over" is the only vision for anyone to hope this album will succeed at this point. Otherwise this album will be a flop.
Now what could likely happen is Storyline might get another minor hit song and the album would be finished before Christmas. It won't be my fault if the future singles flop and Luke sold more copies of Doin My Thing because his later singles on Luke's second album actually succeeded :celetial5:
At that point it will only go to show (for this second album of hunters anyway) that people are not here for his music unlike his previous album (also shown by the ratios of buyers in purchasing Hunter/Luke's second albums over their debut album sales).
So I'll be watching to see if people will finally turn up or not for Storyline
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No one can deny that Crash My Party era is a huge success. Luke is st his peak now But why don't we talk about it when HH releases 4th album?
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Originally posted by Bie
1. HH and his record label want longevity. They will release second single soon
2. I did expect it to go gold, not platinum.
3. Speak for your fave's first and second album. Charting is charting. Charting is better than not charting.
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1.seriously appropriate. They need one asap to solidify if this album is going to keep selling or not
2. I see
3. Since when is Luke my only fav charting is just a chart (Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye is #2 on my personal top 40 this past week, so Luke's T&Ts is still successful I guess since its singles are still charting). Selling is selling, which Luke's distography still gets constant radio play, even from his second album 5 years later
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Originally posted by Bie
No one can deny that Crash My Party era is a huge success. Luke is st his peak now But why don't we talk about it when HH releases 4th album?
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This is a future of country music thread not Hunter versus Luke Bryan's 4th album successes thread which is why I keep bringing up their current situation so much
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Let's me go to Wikipedia page and count how many songs Luke co-wrote or stole writing credits
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Bie, the Luke stans have gained so much ground while you were gone. This is ruthless.
Just to reiterate, the question was who would lead country music after this thread was posted. Luke is still leading and distancing himself from Hunter quickly. Hunter is still a top 5 male, tho
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