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Album: Beyonce - B'Day (9.5.2006)
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YES , many of awesome positive review from Critics , love it !
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Member Since: 11/28/2004
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I LOVE B'DAY! People magazine also gave it 4/4 Stars
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I'm so happy to see this
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Member Since: 9/25/2004
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Originally posted by goldmember
Paris is getting good reviews becos she has kept things to a bare minimum - not because the album is Album Of the Year material. That explains why she can get a 4/5 rating and Xtina can get 3.5, because they are judging them on potential - and such potential is either always capitalized or wasted. Well done to Beyonce... but its actually when the full meta critic scores come through that we can determine whether its a critical darling, mixed or thrashed! Go sting 'em Bee!
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Paris received mixed reviews while Christina received mainly positive reviews. Did you not read some of the horrible reviews Paris received in the post I posted above (it’s from Metacritic)?
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Check on it is on the album?
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Member Since: 10/18/2004
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Originally posted by B.R.I.A.N.
DF received poor reviews because critics felt "future legend" was wasting her time with those two hacks that were holding her back. DIL's reviews were mixed in the sense that they ranged from excellent to good. So therefore my argument does have basis.
"B'Day" is NOT a bad album. But DIL set a path for her and she completely ruined it with B'Day. I was POSITIVE critics would not warm up to it and when I say that, I wasn't hoping it either as you are probably thinking. After analyzing the "overratedness" of the DIL era, I assumed critics found something in Beyonce that they were sure she would capitalize on in the future but she didn't. It's an effort that presents Beyonce as some ghetto & erotic beast, something Beyonce has never presented herself as before which gives me the assumption that isn't the real thing. The fact that she is getting no criticism for being so sexual is bothersome, especially when her musical peers are labeled "*****" when they reveal too much.
As for APA, if you actually read the other posts you would have noticed when Roger made note of it.
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First of all, DF did not get bad reviews for that..so stop talkin out ur a$$. It got bad reviews because after a 4 year hiatus, people expected growth from all members and a return of their greatest album to date. And with their cd bein called Destiny Fulfilled, they thot that this would be their last album and that it would be the end to an AMAZING era. However, critics felt instead of gettin their best album, they got their worst. Which gave them bad reviews. Not because Bee was holdtin them back.
These reviews are good cuz Beyonce seems so liberated. In DC, it felt like lil girl anthems with not that much vulnerability. Beyonce is always bein thot of as daddy's lil girl. With DIL, Bee got out that shell. But with this album, it is obvious that Bee is more free than she has been. Jay has influenced her greatly and it shows(which is that so-called "ghettoness" and "erotic beast" u are talkin about). Secondly, shes showin sides of her she hasnt shown. She took risks that people would not like, one being, not no generic songs that could easily be singles. Critics notice that...
So please stop usin ur unconscious Beyonce bias to say sh1t that does not make sense.
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Originally posted by Byronium
First of all, DF did not get bad reviews for that..so stop talkin out ur a$$. It got bad reviews because after a 4 year hiatus, people expected growth from all members and a return of their greatest album to date. And with their cd bein called Destiny Fulfilled, they thot that this would be their last album and that it would be the end to an AMAZING era. However, critics felt instead of gettin their best album, they got their worst. Which gave them bad reviews. Not because Bee was holdtin them back.
These reviews are good cuz Beyonce seems so liberated. In DC, it felt like lil girl anthems with not that much vulnerability. Beyonce is always bein thot of as daddy's lil girl. With DIL, Bee got out that shell. But with this album, it is obvious that Bee is more free than she has been. Jay has influenced her greatly and it shows(which is that so-called "ghettoness" and "erotic beast" u are talkin about). Secondly, shes showin sides of her she hasnt shown. She took risks that people would not like, one being, not no generic songs that could easily be singles. Critics notice that...
So please stop usin ur unconscious Beyonce bias to say sh1t that does not make sense.
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I said critics felt Kelly & Michelle were holding Beyonce back from bigger & better things, not the other way around. DF DID indeed get bad reviews because of that. It was far better than Survivor and it was a mature effort coming the trio. I don't see why it would have received bad reviews for any other reason.
"B'Day" is FILLED with single material which, IMO, is not a bad thing but "B'Day" is not Beyonce. It's a total front that is specifically aimed at the Urban market, a noisy and unmelodic front at that.
I'm an not "usin my unconscious Beyonce bias to say sh1t that does not make sense" nor am I talking out my ass. It's completely unfair that I can never share my opinion on a situation pertaining to Beyonce without having somebody jumping down my throat at everything they don't agree with.
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Member Since: 9/15/2004
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maybe you should think about the way in which you express those 'opinions'. they are never constructive (and am not saying am innocent of this) but always come off as harsh and ranty.
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Member Since: 7/27/2003
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Originally posted by goldmember
maybe you should think about the way in which you express those 'opinions'. they are never constructive (and am not saying am innocent of this) but always come off as harsh and ranty.
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I construct my opinions based on how I feel and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry that a few stans are too sensitive to handle my opinions.
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Member Since: 10/18/2004
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Originally posted by B.R.I.A.N.
I said critics felt Kelly & Michelle were holding Beyonce back from bigger & better things, not the other way around. DF DID indeed get bad reviews because of that. It was far better than Survivor and it was a mature effort coming the trio. I don't see why it would have received bad reviews for any other reason.
"B'Day" is FILLED with single material which, IMO, is not a bad thing but "B'Day" is not Beyonce. It's a total front that is specifically aimed at the Urban market, a noisy and unmelodic front at that.
I'm an not "usin my unconscious Beyonce bias to say sh1t that does not make sense" nor am I talking out my ass. It's completely unfair that I can never share my opinion on a situation pertaining to Beyonce without having somebody jumping down my throat at everything they don't agree with.
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Um...I was referring to the part that "Beyonce can throw a pile of sh1t to critics and it be praised". Which is not true. U dont love the album..I know...but dont try to downplay Bee just because is gettin critical praise and that is whern u started "talkin out ur ass". And I was sayin, DF did not get bad reviews for the "Bee bein held back", which really does not make sense.
FILLED with single material and being unmelodic doesnt go together. If Bee wanted an album full of singles, she could have made a bunch of Check On Its and generic ballads.
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Member Since: 12/27/2003
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not that i expected anything different, of course.
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Know what's cool?
How people really can't accept that not everyone is going to love everything that Beyonce puts out and that some people find her overrated.
I wish I was like them.
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Originally posted by Byronium
Um...I was referring to the part that "Beyonce can throw a pile of sh1t to critics and it be praised". Which is not true. U dont love the album..I know...but dont try to downplay Bee just because is gettin critical praise and that is whern u started "talkin out ur ass". And I was sayin, DF did not get bad reviews for the "Bee bein held back", which really does not make sense.
FILLED with single material and being unmelodic doesnt go together. If Bee wanted an album full of singles, she could have made a bunch of Check On Its and generic ballads.
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Yes, I most definitely think it is true. Anything Beyonce releases is automatically praised by critics. You can't prove me wrong in anyway, at least I have a valid defense in what I'm saying. You have nothing but your dedication & continuous support for Beyonce. I am upset that, YET AGAIN, Beyonce can get rave reviews with mediocrity. And as for DF, it makes COMPLETE sense. I don't understand how you can just say "It does not make sense" and leave it at that. Once again, you really backed that up well.
FILLED with and single material and being unmelodic does indeed go together. 50% of today's hits are unmelodic, IMO.
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Member Since: 9/15/2004
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Originally posted by B.R.I.A.N.
I construct my opinions based on how I feel and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry that a few stans are too sensitive to handle my opinions.
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u can't certainly be referrin 2 me. there is obvious something wrong with it if all you do is rant. i am not sayin this is n english class, but theres still a better way 2 put things in2 perspective.
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Member Since: 9/15/2004
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Originally posted by Taste Like Fire
Know what's cool?
How people really can't accept that not everyone is going to love everything that Beyonce puts out and that some people find her overrated.
I wish I was like them.
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I am totally with you. Different strokes for different folks. Some fans/stans will praise her work even if they feel its crap, just because they have 2 convince themselves its good.
But a lot of the fans understand that people won't like everything she puts out, and its fine. Shes not immune to criticism; heck neither is Mariah, Madonna, Christina etc. Some feel Xtina's latest album is a pile of **** - others see it as her 'Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' (well it is by her previous standards anyway), and thats fine.
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Member Since: 7/7/2005
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I agree with Brian on the fact that DF got bad reviews b/c they thought Kelly and Michelle were holdin B back, which IMO isn't true. Also b/c they were expectin a more pop album like Survivor instead of the mature soulful album they got. But this isn't about Destiny's Child so lets leave that in 2005.
She's gettin good reviews whether people enjoy the album or not. I can't see why anybody could hate on that. There's plenty of album that I thought were bad and the critics praised it to no end but you just take it for what it is and move the hell on. You disagree fine but damn we don't need to have a debate on everything that is Beyonce.
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Originally posted by goldmember
u can't certainly be referrin 2 me. there is obvious something wrong with it if all you do is rant. i am not sayin this is n english class, but theres still a better way 2 put things in2 perspective.
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I wasn't referring to you and, IMO, I'm presenting my opinions appropriately.
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Originally posted by The Playboy of R&B
She's gettin good reviews whether people enjoy the album or not. I can't see why anybody could hate on that. There's plenty of album that I thought were bad and the critics praised it to no end but you just take it for what it is and move the hell on. You disagree fine but damn we don't need to have a debate on everything that is Beyonce.
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Although I understand and pretty much agree, I cannot bare with this situation. She is getting so much more praise than she deserves and it seems the positive criticism seems endless. She can do no wrong with today's critics.
Simon Cowell once said something along the lines of "I don't understand the fascination with Beyonce. She's average." I cannot stress how right he was to say that.
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Member Since: 7/7/2005
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Originally posted by B.R.I.A.N.
Although I understand and pretty much agree, I cannot bare with this situation. She is getting so much more praise than she deserves and it seems the positive criticism seems endless. She can do no wrong with today's critics.
Simon Cowell once said something along the lines of "I don't understand the fascination with Beyonce. She's average." I cannot stress how right he was to say that.
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I feel the same way about Mimi (not Mariah) and Janet (2006) but different strokes for different folks. I've always thought Madonna was OVERRATED along with Britney but thats how the media/critics is. They choose who to build up and who to tear down. B is the it girl of the decade, I'm sure (I hope not) that one day people will say she's crap and blah blah blah and she'll fall off. You might as well get over it cuz thats not coming anytime soon. Trust me I've had to deal with Britney and Ciara for way LONGER then I would have liked but I don't make a big deal out of it.
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Yes but Mariah, Madonna, & Janet have never been critic's favorites.
-Mariah was thought of as a second rate Whitney throughout her career, despite having more musical talents than Whitney. Luckily, she managed to grab 2 Grammys in the beginning. Little did we know that those would be her last until 2006. The majority of critics bashed pretty much every album by her with the exception of "Butterfly" and "Daydream."
-Madonna was thought of as a joke in the beginning, despite writing & co-producing the majority of her material. She had to work her way into critics hearts and it took a LONG ass time. Despite paving the way for pretty much every female popstar after her, she has yet to win over all critics.
-Janet's contribution to music also never fully received the praise it should have though she was probably taken a bit more seriously than the two Ms.
Beyonce has more Grammy's then all of them and if the Grammy committee responds to "B'Day" the way the critics have so far, she'll have double the amount the three legends have. That truly pisses me off.
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