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Poll: WORLDWIDE Impact: Beyonce vs Shakira
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Shakira
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beyonce
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None
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2.22% |
I don't care! Not here for them
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Originally posted by DiamondDust
Shakira? Really?? I don't feel like Shakira is nearly as much of a household name as Beyonce. Maybe in Latin America but she's definitely not here. And even in Latin America, I'm sure that Beyonce is just as prevalent too.
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Shakira is WAY more relevant than Beyonce here in Latin America, she is like a Queen here.
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Originally posted by Signs
....It was the world cup song. Other than that and hips dont lie shakira doesnt have many smashes worldwide.
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Basically:
I simply CAN'T at all these shallow, superficial people thinking success in the US, UK and AUstralia is ALL that matters. Your use of "doesn't have many smashes worldwide" is evidence enough. Besides the fact that Austria, Belgium, Canada, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Greece, Netherlands, Hungary, Italy, FRANCE, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Switzerland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Malaysia, Singapore aren't actually "Latin" countries, the fact that you claim that she's faded is one of the most delusional statements I have ever read. That's a classic comment from someone who believes that success in Anglo countries is all that matter. Well guess what? It's not. Because success in the US is ephemeral, unlike the worldwide grip that Shakira has placed in several states and territories. The bitch sold 500,000 copies of her latest SPANISH album in France ALONE. Shakira's online following remains stronger than ever - beating out all those "supposedly-more popular artists" such as Katy Perry, CHristina Aguilera, Kesha.
Sale El Sol continues to sell internationally with no promotion and by June 2011, it had already sold over 2 million copies worldwide in under less than a year (released in October) And don't go pulling that classic "oh 2 million is nothing for 9 months". You know what, it is, because this is a Spanish album - and the fact that she can dominate territories like Germany, Eastern European, some Asian countries (which don't even SPEAK english OR spanish) and Western European countries which largely don't even speak Spanish says a lot.
Not smashing in the U.S, UK, Australia. =/= Flopping. She's internationally known better than she is in the U.S. and that's fine.
I seriously CANNOT
at you thinking that just because she isn't popular in "Australia, US, UK, Japan" she is a "local" act. Seriously? They are by NO means the "ONLY" countries that matter. As mentioned above, for someone who makes LATIN music and to be smashing all those territories? Please, I haven't yet seen anyone who's currently "popular" in the "anglo" countries do the same. its hard for one artist to cater to asian, african, eurpoean and latin american tastes all at the same time since the languages and styles of music are so diverse between these continents. Can any other artist? NO.
Oh, and just in case you didn't know, SES and Loca remains Unreleased in the UK, and the album wasn't dropped until NOVEMBER 2011 in Australia.
Success in: Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, italy, Mexico, Poland, portugal, Russia, Dubai, Spain, Slovenia, Serbia, Lebanon, Morocco, Belarus, Switzerland, Malaysia, Singapore, plus ALL the latin countries such as Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, ecuador..
Moderate Success in: Denmark, Canada, Finaldn, Sweden, CHINA, South Africa
"Supposed Flop" in: Australia, US, UK, Japan
SOLD OUT TOUR SHOWS IN Puerto Rico, Ukraine, Brazil, Singaopre, Mexico, France, Switzerland, Germany, SPain, Morocco, Lebanon, Belarus, Serbia, Poland, Costa Rica, Panama, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Italy, Hungary, ALL the Latin countries,
You call this "LOCAL"? AHAHAHAHA.
Your grip on reality is seriously delusional. Even without "Waka Waka" Shakira has broken more records than ever before. Oh, and by the way, Waka Waka succeeded because it was the world cup song? Precisely. If there was no world cup, there would be no song.
When the album dropped, it went to #1 and Top 5, Top 10 in COUNTLESS countries, and so did the single Loca. Now don't go pulling the classic cliche "Oh but it flopped whatever in the US and didn't chart in the UK or Australia". Firstly, again those markets are NOT the most important, and for a SPANISH album to hit #7 in the US? wow. And also, as mentioned SES remains UNRELEASED in the UK and wasn't released in AUSTRALIA until November 2011 (when it was meant to be released October 2010) LOL. Flawed much?
"She hasn't had an international hit since 2006". LOL? You don't say it directly but you completely imply it. YOUR definition of "International hit" solely relies on success in Anglo Countries. Apparently, by your definition, if a song is a hit throughout Europe, LAtin America, Asia, but doesn't necessarily smash the US, it's considered not an "international hit".
Actually, Beautiful Liar in 2007 can be considered an INTERNATIONAL hit, and so can SHE WOLF in 2009 (hit top 5 basically everywhere besides the US). You can honestly say WHAT you want, but WAKA WAKA was an absolute international smash. But of course you'll resort to the "it's not an international hit because it flopped in the US". Classy
I love how you keep minimising her achievements; success in "a few European countries and South American countries", completely ignoring the myriad of other countries which contribute to her very A-list status. Your uni-directional belief that success in the US is the only way to make an artist relevant is actually pretty laughable. You know what? you're right. "facts are facts", and the fact is that Shakira's influence worldwide is undeniable, if not she wouldn't be selling out concerts like crazy.
Receipts? SURE. Here are the facts: (cue without inverted commas )
Major European Countries:
France:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, over 5x Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, Platinum
Loca: #1 and #2, Platinum
Rabiosa: #5
JLAM: #1 (for six weeks and still running)
Germany:
Sale El Sol Album: #6, Gold
Waka Waka: #1, 5x Gold
Loca: #6, Gold
Rabiosa: #26
Italy:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, Platinum
Loca: #1, Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, 3x Platinum
Rabiosa: #6
Spain:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, 2x Platinum
Loca; #1 2x Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, 6x Platinum
Rabiosa: #1
Sale El Sol Album
#1:
Argentina
Belgium
Croatia
France
Greece
Italy
Mexico
Portugal
Spain
Switzerland
Colombia
Ecuador'
Brazil
Peru
Hoardes of other countries
Top 5:
Austria: #3
Singapore #3
Poland: #3
Hungary: #4
Slovenia: #4
Russia: #4
Top 10:
Czechoslovakia: #6
Germany: #6
Malaysia: #6
USA: #7
Netherlands: #10
Top 20:
Canada: #11
Sweden: #19
Certifications: Gold, MultiPlatinum, Diamonds throughout Latin America and Europe
ps Unreleased in the UK and Australia
Loca
#1:
Belgium
Czechoslovakia
France
Greece
Italy
Mexico
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Spain
Switzerland
Turkey
US Latin
Top 5:
Austria #2
Slovakia #3
Brazil #4
Hungary #4
Singapore #4
Malaysia #5
Top 10:
Germany #6
Top 20:
Finland #11
Denmark #12
Netherlands #15
Sweden #20
PS Unreleased in UK
Waka Waka
#1
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Meixco
Poland
Slovakia
Singapore
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
THROUGHOUT Latin America
Top 5:
Netherlands #2
US Latin #2
Norway #2
Bulgaria #4
Top 10:
Ireland #10
Top 20:
Canada #11
Japan #12
Scotland #17
Rabiosa:
#1
Greece
Mexico
Portugal
Spain
Top 5
Poland #3
Switzerland #3
Belgium #5
France #5
Top 10
Austria #6
Brazil #6
Czechoslovakia #10
Isreal #7
Italy #6
Denmark #9
Top 20
Slovakia #12
JLAM: (regional Release)
#1
France
Belgium
"no1curr" about Shakira? LOL. HEW MAD?
The fact is that minus the US and UK and AUstarlia, Shakira is going more than strongly. Her global impact is undeniable. Anyone who argues otherwise is sorely delusional or so basic that they think that as long as someone doesn't have relevancy in the US or UK, Australia, then they're "a flop" or that "no1curr" about them.
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Quote:
Originally posted by loco
Basically:
I simply CAN'T at all these shallow, superficial people thinking success in the US, UK and AUstralia is ALL that matters. Your use of "doesn't have many smashes worldwide" is evidence enough. Besides the fact that Austria, Belgium, Canada, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Greece, Netherlands, Hungary, Italy, FRANCE, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Switzerland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Malaysia, Singapore aren't actually "Latin" countries, the fact that you claim that she's faded is one of the most delusional statements I have ever read. That's a classic comment from someone who believes that success in Anglo countries is all that matter. Well guess what? It's not. Because success in the US is ephemeral, unlike the worldwide grip that Shakira has placed in several states and territories. The bitch sold 500,000 copies of her latest SPANISH album in France ALONE. Shakira's online following remains stronger than ever - beating out all those "supposedly-more popular artists" such as Katy Perry, CHristina Aguilera, Kesha.
Sale El Sol continues to sell internationally with no promotion and by June 2011, it had already sold over 2 million copies worldwide in under less than a year (released in October) And don't go pulling that classic "oh 2 million is nothing for 9 months". You know what, it is, because this is a Spanish album - and the fact that she can dominate territories like Germany, Eastern European, some Asian countries (which don't even SPEAK english OR spanish) and Western European countries which largely don't even speak Spanish says a lot.
Not smashing in the U.S, UK, Australia. =/= Flopping. She's internationally known better than she is in the U.S. and that's fine.
I seriously CANNOT
at you thinking that just because she isn't popular in "Australia, US, UK, Japan" she is a "local" act. Seriously? They are by NO means the "ONLY" countries that matter. As mentioned above, for someone who makes LATIN music and to be smashing all those territories? Please, I haven't yet seen anyone who's currently "popular" in the "anglo" countries do the same. its hard for one artist to cater to asian, african, eurpoean and latin american tastes all at the same time since the languages and styles of music are so diverse between these continents. Can any other artist? NO.
Oh, and just in case you didn't know, SES and Loca remains Unreleased in the UK, and the album wasn't dropped until NOVEMBER 2011 in Australia.
Success in: Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, italy, Mexico, Poland, portugal, Russia, Dubai, Spain, Slovenia, Serbia, Lebanon, Morocco, Belarus, Switzerland, Malaysia, Singapore, plus ALL the latin countries such as Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, ecuador..
Moderate Success in: Denmark, Canada, Finaldn, Sweden, CHINA, South Africa
"Supposed Flop" in: Australia, US, UK, Japan
SOLD OUT TOUR SHOWS IN Puerto Rico, Ukraine, Brazil, Singaopre, Mexico, France, Switzerland, Germany, SPain, Morocco, Lebanon, Belarus, Serbia, Poland, Costa Rica, Panama, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Italy, Hungary, ALL the Latin countries,
You call this "LOCAL"? AHAHAHAHA.
Your grip on reality is seriously delusional. Even without "Waka Waka" Shakira has broken more records than ever before. Oh, and by the way, Waka Waka is a "MESS"? LOL. When the album dropped, it went to #1 and Top 5, Top 10 in COUNTLESS countries, and so did the single Loca. Now don't go pulling the classic cliche "Oh but it flopped whatever in the US and didn't chart in the UK or Australia". Firstly, again those markets are NOT the most important, and for a SPANISH album to hit #7 in the US? wow. And also, as mentioned SES remains UNRELEASED in the UK and wasn't released in AUSTRALIA until November 2011 (when it was meant to be released October 2010) LOL. Flawed much?
"She hasn't had an international hit since 2006". LOL? You don't say it directly but you completely imply it. YOUR definition of "International hit" solely relies on success in Anglo Countries. Apparently, by your definition, if a song is a hit throughout Europe, LAtin America, Asia, but doesn't necessarily smash the US, it's considered not an "international hit".
Actually, Beautiful Liar in 2007 can be considered an INTERNATIONAL hit, and so can SHE WOLF in 2009 (hit top 5 basically everywhere besides the US). You can honestly say WHAT you want, but WAKA WAKA was an absolute international smash. But of course you'll resort to the "it's not an international hit because it flopped in the US". Classy
I love how you keep minimising her achievements; success in "a few European countries and South American countries", completely ignoring the myriad of other countries which contribute to her very A-list status. Your uni-directional belief that success in the US is the only way to make an artist relevant is actually pretty laughable. You know what? you're right. "facts are facts", and the fact is that Shakira's influence worldwide is undeniable, if not she wouldn't be selling out concerts like crazy.
Receipts? SURE. Here are the facts: (cue without inverted commas )
Major European Countries:
France:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, over 5x Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, Platinum
Loca: #1 and #2, Platinum
Rabiosa: #5
JLAM: #1 (for six weeks and still running)
Germany:
Sale El Sol Album: #6, Gold
Waka Waka: #1, 5x Gold
Loca: #6, Gold
Rabiosa: #26
Italy:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, Platinum
Loca: #1, Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, 3x Platinum
Rabiosa: #6
Spain:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, 2x Platinum
Loca; #1 2x Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, 6x Platinum
Rabiosa: #1
Sale El Sol Album
#1:
Argentina
Belgium
Croatia
France
Greece
Italy
Mexico
Portugal
Spain
Switzerland
Colombia
Ecuador'
Brazil
Peru
Hoardes of other countries
Top 5:
Austria: #3
Singapore #3
Poland: #3
Hungary: #4
Slovenia: #4
Russia: #4
Top 10:
Czechoslovakia: #6
Germany: #6
Malaysia: #6
USA: #7
Netherlands: #10
Top 20:
Canada: #11
Sweden: #19
Certifications: Gold, MultiPlatinum, Diamonds throughout Latin America and Europe
ps Unreleased in the UK and Australia
Loca
#1:
Belgium
Czechoslovakia
France
Greece
Italy
Mexico
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Spain
Switzerland
Turkey
US Latin
Top 5:
Austria #2
Slovakia #3
Brazil #4
Hungary #4
Singapore #4
Malaysia #5
Top 10:
Germany #6
Top 20:
Finland #11
Denmark #12
Netherlands #15
Sweden #20
PS Unreleased in UK
Waka Waka
#1
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Meixco
Poland
Slovakia
Singapore
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
THROUGHOUT Latin America
Top 5:
Netherlands #2
US Latin #2
Norway #2
Bulgaria #4
Top 10:
Ireland #10
Top 20:
Canada #11
Japan #12
Scotland #17
Rabiosa:
#1
Greece
Mexico
Portugal
Spain
Top 5
Poland #3
Switzerland #3
Belgium #5
France #5
Top 10
Austria #6
Brazil #6
Czechoslovakia #10
Isreal #7
Italy #6
Denmark #9
Top 20
Slovakia #12
JLAM: (regional Release)
#1
France
Belgium
"no1curr" about Shakira? LOL. HEW MAD?
The fact is that minus the US and UK and AUstarlia, Shakira is going more than strongly. Her global impact is undeniable. Anyone who argues otherwise is sorely delusional or so basic that they think that as long as someone doesn't have relevancy in the US or UK, Australia, then they're "a flop" or that "no1curr" about them.
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I'm not reading that long ass comment.
But I agree with the parts that I dd read.
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People are saying Shakira wasn't Big here? O.O
Whenever Whenever was way bigger then any of Beys singles.
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Originally posted by Acclaimed
None, of course. Why would she have any outside the US? But has she even got any IN the US?
Oh well. Let's bury this thread.
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her last hit IN the US was in 2008 or 2009 i think
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I don't know I think both are pretty similar WW
I'm from Mexico so obviously Shakira is HUGE beyonce a flop here and all over latin america but US Bey wins
and in Europe I don't know but I think both
and Asia both are irrelevants
so..... hmmm BOTH are the same.
I don't know about Australia so Australia will decide who wins!
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Shaki
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Quote:
Originally posted by tcweh
People are saying Shakira wasn't Big here? O.O
Whenever Whenever was way bigger then any of Beys singles.
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Yes but she is nothing in Australia now. It's true. Her last hit was Beautiful Liar. She Wolf flopped because there was no promotion/hype about it (blame her.. she never comes to AUstralia) and Sale El Sol's album or singles were unheard of. Waka Waka got no rotation either.
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Quote:
Originally posted by loco
Basically:
I simply CAN'T at all these shallow, superficial people thinking success in the US, UK and AUstralia is ALL that matters. Your use of "doesn't have many smashes worldwide" is evidence enough. Besides the fact that Austria, Belgium, Canada, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Greece, Netherlands, Hungary, Italy, FRANCE, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Switzerland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Malaysia, Singapore aren't actually "Latin" countries, the fact that you claim that she's faded is one of the most delusional statements I have ever read. That's a classic comment from someone who believes that success in Anglo countries is all that matter. Well guess what? It's not. Because success in the US is ephemeral, unlike the worldwide grip that Shakira has placed in several states and territories. The bitch sold 500,000 copies of her latest SPANISH album in France ALONE. Shakira's online following remains stronger than ever - beating out all those "supposedly-more popular artists" such as Katy Perry, CHristina Aguilera, Kesha.
Sale El Sol continues to sell internationally with no promotion and by June 2011, it had already sold over 2 million copies worldwide in under less than a year (released in October) And don't go pulling that classic "oh 2 million is nothing for 9 months". You know what, it is, because this is a Spanish album - and the fact that she can dominate territories like Germany, Eastern European, some Asian countries (which don't even SPEAK english OR spanish) and Western European countries which largely don't even speak Spanish says a lot.
Not smashing in the U.S, UK, Australia. =/= Flopping. She's internationally known better than she is in the U.S. and that's fine.
I seriously CANNOT
at you thinking that just because she isn't popular in "Australia, US, UK, Japan" she is a "local" act. Seriously? They are by NO means the "ONLY" countries that matter. As mentioned above, for someone who makes LATIN music and to be smashing all those territories? Please, I haven't yet seen anyone who's currently "popular" in the "anglo" countries do the same. its hard for one artist to cater to asian, african, eurpoean and latin american tastes all at the same time since the languages and styles of music are so diverse between these continents. Can any other artist? NO.
Oh, and just in case you didn't know, SES and Loca remains Unreleased in the UK, and the album wasn't dropped until NOVEMBER 2011 in Australia.
Success in: Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, italy, Mexico, Poland, portugal, Russia, Dubai, Spain, Slovenia, Serbia, Lebanon, Morocco, Belarus, Switzerland, Malaysia, Singapore, plus ALL the latin countries such as Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, ecuador..
Moderate Success in: Denmark, Canada, Finaldn, Sweden, CHINA, South Africa
"Supposed Flop" in: Australia, US, UK, Japan
SOLD OUT TOUR SHOWS IN Puerto Rico, Ukraine, Brazil, Singaopre, Mexico, France, Switzerland, Germany, SPain, Morocco, Lebanon, Belarus, Serbia, Poland, Costa Rica, Panama, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Italy, Hungary, ALL the Latin countries,
You call this "LOCAL"? AHAHAHAHA.
Your grip on reality is seriously delusional. Even without "Waka Waka" Shakira has broken more records than ever before. Oh, and by the way, Waka Waka succeeded because it was the world cup song? Precisely. If there was no world cup, there would be no song.
When the album dropped, it went to #1 and Top 5, Top 10 in COUNTLESS countries, and so did the single Loca. Now don't go pulling the classic cliche "Oh but it flopped whatever in the US and didn't chart in the UK or Australia". Firstly, again those markets are NOT the most important, and for a SPANISH album to hit #7 in the US? wow. And also, as mentioned SES remains UNRELEASED in the UK and wasn't released in AUSTRALIA until November 2011 (when it was meant to be released October 2010) LOL. Flawed much?
"She hasn't had an international hit since 2006". LOL? You don't say it directly but you completely imply it. YOUR definition of "International hit" solely relies on success in Anglo Countries. Apparently, by your definition, if a song is a hit throughout Europe, LAtin America, Asia, but doesn't necessarily smash the US, it's considered not an "international hit".
Actually, Beautiful Liar in 2007 can be considered an INTERNATIONAL hit, and so can SHE WOLF in 2009 (hit top 5 basically everywhere besides the US). You can honestly say WHAT you want, but WAKA WAKA was an absolute international smash. But of course you'll resort to the "it's not an international hit because it flopped in the US". Classy
I love how you keep minimising her achievements; success in "a few European countries and South American countries", completely ignoring the myriad of other countries which contribute to her very A-list status. Your uni-directional belief that success in the US is the only way to make an artist relevant is actually pretty laughable. You know what? you're right. "facts are facts", and the fact is that Shakira's influence worldwide is undeniable, if not she wouldn't be selling out concerts like crazy.
Receipts? SURE. Here are the facts: (cue without inverted commas )
Major European Countries:
France:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, over 5x Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, Platinum
Loca: #1 and #2, Platinum
Rabiosa: #5
JLAM: #1 (for six weeks and still running)
Germany:
Sale El Sol Album: #6, Gold
Waka Waka: #1, 5x Gold
Loca: #6, Gold
Rabiosa: #26
Italy:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, Platinum
Loca: #1, Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, 3x Platinum
Rabiosa: #6
Spain:
Sale El Sol Album: #1, 2x Platinum
Loca; #1 2x Platinum
Waka Waka: #1, 6x Platinum
Rabiosa: #1
Sale El Sol Album
#1:
Argentina
Belgium
Croatia
France
Greece
Italy
Mexico
Portugal
Spain
Switzerland
Colombia
Ecuador'
Brazil
Peru
Hoardes of other countries
Top 5:
Austria: #3
Singapore #3
Poland: #3
Hungary: #4
Slovenia: #4
Russia: #4
Top 10:
Czechoslovakia: #6
Germany: #6
Malaysia: #6
USA: #7
Netherlands: #10
Top 20:
Canada: #11
Sweden: #19
Certifications: Gold, MultiPlatinum, Diamonds throughout Latin America and Europe
ps Unreleased in the UK and Australia
Loca
#1:
Belgium
Czechoslovakia
France
Greece
Italy
Mexico
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Spain
Switzerland
Turkey
US Latin
Top 5:
Austria #2
Slovakia #3
Brazil #4
Hungary #4
Singapore #4
Malaysia #5
Top 10:
Germany #6
Top 20:
Finland #11
Denmark #12
Netherlands #15
Sweden #20
PS Unreleased in UK
Waka Waka
#1
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Czechoslovakia
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Meixco
Poland
Slovakia
Singapore
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
THROUGHOUT Latin America
Top 5:
Netherlands #2
US Latin #2
Norway #2
Bulgaria #4
Top 10:
Ireland #10
Top 20:
Canada #11
Japan #12
Scotland #17
Rabiosa:
#1
Greece
Mexico
Portugal
Spain
Top 5
Poland #3
Switzerland #3
Belgium #5
France #5
Top 10
Austria #6
Brazil #6
Czechoslovakia #10
Isreal #7
Italy #6
Denmark #9
Top 20
Slovakia #12
JLAM: (regional Release)
#1
France
Belgium
"no1curr" about Shakira? LOL. HEW MAD?
The fact is that minus the US and UK and AUstarlia, Shakira is going more than strongly. Her global impact is undeniable. Anyone who argues otherwise is sorely delusional or so basic that they think that as long as someone doesn't have relevancy in the US or UK, Australia, then they're "a flop" or that "no1curr" about them.
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This alone deserves a thread of it's own and must be stickied! I'm going to do this for the nostalgia, "aaaaauuu!"
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Originally posted by emmanuel_punk
I don't know I think both are pretty similar WW
I'm from Mexico so obviously Shakira is HUGE beyonce a flop here and all over latin america but US Bey wins
and in Europe I don't know but I think both
and Asia both are irrelevants
so..... hmmm BOTH are the same.
I don't know about Australia so Australia will decide who wins!
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Shakira when she was big was bigger then Beyonce ever has been here. But Beyonces been more consistant and as the other poster said Shakira has been slack to her fellow Aussie's With touring and promotion. So the Answer is Bey i guess
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I can't believe this thread is still alive !
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Originally posted by emmanuel_punk
and in Europe I don't know but I think both
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In terms of impact, influence and how much they're in the news I would say they are equal in Europe. But Beyoncé's biggest European hit (after Beautiful Liar) was If I Were A Boy. Shakira has at least five songs that were bigger than that in Europe. So in terms of commercial success, Shakira is a lot bigger.
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I don't know, probably Shakira.
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BEYONCE!!! shes already took over brazil and france....
and shes way more popular in australia, US, europe..and thats all that matters
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Member Since: 10/6/2010
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Originally posted by .aR
BEYONCE!!! shes already took over brazil and france....
and shes way more popular in australia, US, europe..and thats all that matters
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You mean Shakira right?
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Shakira!
Not a fair comparison.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Shakira. Beyonce's only popular in like 3 countries.
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