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Movie: Avatar sinks Titanic from #1
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Originally posted by Celestial
Of course Avatar is similar to other movies in its plot, why are people make such a big deal about that? It is impossible to be completly original, and nothing truly is unique. Every work (Movies, songs, novels etc) has similarities.
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Finally a smartie in this thread. It's 2010. Just wait til it's 3010, people are gonna see 500 different Avatar's. Just new enhanced CGI, plots, environment, etc.
These people seem to don't get it. Look at music these days, it's hard not to make a song with a beat that sonds like another. That doesn't make it a bad song.
Books also. TV shows also. All those stupid ABC/NBC comedy shows like Will & Grace seem like clones to me, but they are completely different. Some characters are annoying, some shows have more drama, etc.
The point is, Avatar is a comletely different movie that we haven't seen. It's nothing like these movies we compared them too. It's just a new enhanced plot that blows your mind away. These kids are just trying to find excuses to hate an epic movie.
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Originally posted by lawmak
Yes..it is totally Pocahontas if we're talking about the plot...and I mean..there are identical scenes...
but it is also true that is probably the most spectacular movie I've ever seen...
so if u want the special effects...go watch it!
if you're looking for a great(or even decent) plot...there ain't no way...
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Pocahonta's is a cartoon.
There are no blue people.
No are no epic environments, such as the floating mountains.
There is no poision atmosphere, unlike Avatar.
It takes place on a different planet; AVatar that is.
There were no creatures in this movie like Pandora, just a racoon and some hummingbird.
There was no science in it.
There was no machine guns and killing in it.
etc, etc, etc, etc.
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It's a completely different movie I just proved my point. Now shut the **** up and like it or hate it. This has nothing compared to any other movie. I've seen parts of Pocahontas and Avatar is far from anything being simliar to it.
You guys must not be educated at all, because Avatar is unique and one of it's own kind. Go disect a frog.
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And sorry I told you to **** off, I'm just annoyed by you guys who sit here and look at the smallest, very smallest grains of the sand in this movie and say omgggg it's like this movie, but don't look at the big grains of the movie that make it unlike any other movie created.
I watch movies for a living, this is nothing like any movie I've ever seen EVER. With the movies I own right now, I have a few that have similar plots, which is crazy because I have less than 200 movies in my name...
Obessed with Beyonce is similar to Enough with Jennifer Lopez.
But guess what TWO DIFFERENT MOVIES. And I judge them differently.
Orphan and The Good Son have the SAME EXACT PLOT.
Only difference is that it's an "Oprhan" girl and she's in her 30's, while the Good Son is a boy who's just messed up in the brain.
But guess what???? There two different movies, and I don't even compare the two.
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Just because Avatar has "blue people", guns and floating mountains doesn't mean it's got a completely different plot. They're minor details which have no effect on the under-lying story at hand. Strip both movies back and you have a very similar story indeed.
I love Avatar, and it's doing great no matter what, but there is no denying that the plot is similar to other movies, specifically Pocahontas.
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^ Coooooool
But let's wake up, it's 2010. It's almost impossible to be have an unoriginal plot. It's time to move on. Find any movie released now and it's like another movie. COOOL! You guys want a cookie that you found a plot similar to Avatar?
It's also similar to Ferngully more than Pocahontas. I own that movie. It's like 99.999999% right on.
So what? Why are we comparing movies though? That doesn't make it any different from the movie it is.
Avatar is still unique and unlike any other film out there. And yes it has similar plots. But Avatar is a million times better than the ones you guys keep comparing them too. I think you guys are just pressed because it's doing so epicly well.
Did you guys compare Obsessed with any other film when it was release? No...why not? Because it bombed at the box office and you guys were not pressed? What about Orphan? That was a bigger flop than Obsessed. How come no one made a big deal about that one? It was exactly a rip-off of The Good Son.
Ohhhh because it's not in the Top 5 movies of all time. You guys just find ways to hate the film because of it's success. Are you jealous? Because Pocahontas didn't do that well? If that movie was in the Top 25, would we even be having this conversation?
What makes Avatar so different from Obsessed and Oprhan (two good example movies)? The only explanation is this: You guys are jealous and pressed because it's now the #1 movie of all time. If Avatar flopped, I bet no one would even care about thinking it was like other movies.
Still want that cookie?
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Originally posted by Departure
Troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll.
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I'm not about to entertain you with a thoughtful response because you never put any in yours.
Wow @ it pulling 54mil this weekend domestically. It was only estimated to pull 43mil. I can see this topping 2bil worldwide at this rate.
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I understand it is similar to another plot, but that shouldn't be an excuse to hate it or disect it and give it flaws. That's my intention of my essays in this thread.
You guys are giving this movie flaws because it has a similar plot. But like I said, so does any other movie release now a days. What makes those movies any different from Avatar? Do you understand where I'm going with this?
Just because it's #1 movie of all time, you guys don't need to be pressed. Either like it or love it! But don't give it "flaws" because it is similar to some other scripts. I could pull at least 100 movies out of my ass right now if you want that have similar scripts to other movies! What makes Avatar so different from those movies?
None of you guys gave those movies flaws because of the plots, because they weren't successful and they were rather not important. But because Avatar is so successful and epic and doing so much "press" on our culture right now, it gives you every advantage to pull this "flaw" i.e. "similar to another movie" mo-jo?
Come on, open your eyes!
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This is so going to pass Titanic.
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Originally posted by Erik
I'm not about to entertain you with a thoughtful response because you never put any in yours.
Wow @ it pulling 54mil this weekend domestically. It was only estimated to pull 43mil. I can see this topping 2bil worldwide at this rate.
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I speak the truth, only the truth. Erik your fine. So please don't make it start like there is a problem.
I'm more talking about Mr. Deeds and that other member here who hate the movie only because of the simple flaw "It's like another plot."
So don't start anything Erik, your great
And I don't consider myself a Troll on this forum when in the past month, this is the only thread I've posted in. ATRL is so boring now and I don't like posting here anymore. It's just lame.
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Originally posted by Flashing Lights
This is so going to pass Titanic.
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It's less than 200 million away! By the end of this week, it will for sure. If not, by the end of the 6th weekend.
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $505,067,000 31.2%
+ Foreign: $1,115,424,649 68.8%
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= Worldwide: $1,620,491,649
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by Erik
I'm not about to entertain you with a thoughtful response because you never put any in yours.
Wow @ it pulling 54mil this weekend domestically. It was only estimated to pull 43mil. I can see this topping 2bil worldwide at this rate.
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It is going to pass the 2 Billion mark, I've thought so for the last few weeks but now it is guaranteed.
Also the 43 million estimate was for the 3 day weekend I believe
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by Departure
I understand it is similar to another plot, but that shouldn't be an excuse to hate it or disect it and give it flaws. That's my intention of my essays in this thread.
You guys are giving this movie flaws because it has a similar plot. But like I said, so does any other movie release now a days. What makes those movies any different from Avatar? Do you understand where I'm going with this?
Just because it's #1 movie of all time, you guys don't need to be pressed. Either like it or love it! But don't give it "flaws" because it is similar to some other scripts. I could pull at least 100 movies out of my ass right now if you want that have similar scripts to other movies! What makes Avatar so different from those movies?
None of you guys gave those movies flaws because of the plots, because they weren't successful and they were rather not important. But because Avatar is so successful and epic and doing so much "press" on our culture right now, it gives you every advantage to pull this "flaw" i.e. "similar to another movie" mo-jo?
Come on, open your eyes!
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by Departure
I speak the truth, only the truth. Erik your fine. So please don't make it start like there is a problem.
I'm more talking about Mr. Deeds and that other member here who hate the movie only because of the simple flaw "It's like another plot."
So don't start anything Erik, your great
And I don't consider myself a Troll on this forum when in the past month, this is the only thread I've posted in. ATRL is so boring now and I don't like posting here anymore. It's just lame.
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Next time you should make it a bit clearer because it seemed as though you laid that post out on me. I love Avatar to death and have been following it since its release, hoping for great success, so your comment just seemed trollish to me.
I was only trying to say that little details like that don't make a movie's plot different. Most movies, if you strip them down, follow a few basic stories, and it would be silly to deny its similarity to previously mentioned movies. It's how said story is projected to the audience that makes or breaks the movie. Those little details come into effect then, because a great movie can tell a story everyone's heard before in a new and/or thrilling way, which I think Cameron managed.
So, I agree with you in the sense that Cameron has told an unoriginal story in an original way.
The others are just trying to upset you so pay no attention to them. If you feed a troll it will continue to hassle you for more food, so just ignore or accept their opinions because in the end Avatar will continue to succeed no matter what comments they post.
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Originally posted by Celestial
It is going to pass the 2 Billion mark, I've thought so for the last few weeks but now it is guaranteed.
Also the 43 million estimate was for the 3 day weekend I believe
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Yeah, I've hoped so for a while and it does seem to strengthen as it goes on, so it should get more interesting to follow as it gets closer and closer.
And really? I wasn't sure when I posted the estimate as the site didn't specify since it was a holiday. Would make more sense seeing as that is a large difference.
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Hey Erik, thanks for your respect and all. I'm glad we both understand each other now. Glad to know that's behind us. You made a great point!
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It's how said story is projected to the audience that makes or breaks the movie. Those little details come into effect then, because a great movie can tell a story everyone's heard before in a new and/or thrilling way, which I think Cameron managed.
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Everyone has heard this story before, but how he projected it with minor details, like the Pandora environment made it in a new thrilling way. I agree!
I'm going to not feed them troll's anymore. They can hate on Avatar for that reason. It's thier loss. Everyone I have talked to says they have loved Avatar, going in with a negative view on the movie!
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Avatar Grosses: Release Date- Gross- As of
Argentina 1/1/10 $5,469,310 1/17/10
Australia 12/17/09 $68,827,952 1/17/10
Austria 12/18/09 $10,414,224 1/17/10
Bahrain 12/17/09 $298,982 1/13/10
Belgium and Luxembourg 12/16/09 $9,489,036 1/17/10
Bolivia 12/17/09 $885,828 1/13/10
Brazil 12/18/09 $33,870,855 1/17/10
Bulgaria 12/18/09 $2,722,028 1/17/10
Central America (Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama and Paragua 12/18/09 $4,063,388 1/17/10
Chile 12/17/09 $6,586,956 1/17/10
China 1/2/10 $75,580,571 1/17/10
Colombia 12/17/09 $8,119,190 1/17/10
Croatia 12/17/09 $890,576 1/13/10
Czech Republic/Slovakia 12/17/09 $8,120,306 1/17/10
Denmark 12/18/09 $13,988,111 1/17/10
Dominican Republic 12/17/09 $919,555 1/13/10
East & West Africa (Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, Tanzania, Zambia and Uganda) 12/18/09 $637,022 1/13/10
Ecuador 12/18/09 $1,914,755 1/17/10
Egypt 12/16/09 $832,927 1/13/10
Estonia 12/18/09 $688,483 1/13/10
Finland 12/18/09 $3,934,353 1/17/10
France and Algeria, Monaco, Morocco and Tunisia 12/16/09 $115,281,799 1/17/10
Germany 12/17/09 $85,830,810 1/17/10
Greece 12/17/09 $10,756,994 1/17/10
Hong Kong 12/17/09 $15,079,818 1/17/10
Hungary 12/17/09 $5,118,583 1/17/10
Iceland 12/18/09 $752,512 1/13/10
India 12/18/09 $20,495,064 1/17/10
Indonesia 12/17/09 $5,171,058 1/17/10
Israel 12/17/09 $5,141,320 1/17/10
Italy 1/15/10 $15,249,577 1/17/10
Jamaica 12/16/09 $389,816 1/13/10
Japan 12/23/09 $66,406,836 1/17/10
Jordan 12/16/09 $408,413 1/13/10
Kuwait 12/17/09 $743,102 1/13/10
Latvia 12/18/09 $760,039 1/13/10
Lebanon 12/17/09 $731,664 1/13/10
Lithuania 12/18/09 $760,484 1/13/10
Malaysia 12/17/09 $6,098,894 1/17/10
Mexico 12/17/09 $32,448,646 1/17/10
Netherlands 12/17/09 $14,383,370 1/17/10
New Zealand and Fiji 12/17/09 $7,673,867 1/17/10
Norway 12/18/09 $8,756,740 1/17/10
Oman 12/17/09 $133,326 1/13/10
Peru 12/17/09 $3,506,842 1/17/10
Philippines 12/17/09 $4,577,317 1/17/10
Poland 12/25/09 $13,292,831 1/13/10
Portugal and Angola 12/17/09 $6,691,694 1/17/10
Qatar 12/17/09 $537,747 1/13/10
Romania 12/18/09 $3,753,520 1/17/10
Russia - CIS 12/17/09 $89,303,539 1/17/10
Serbia and Montenegro 12/17/09 $564,143 1/13/10
Singapore 12/17/09 $7,035,647 1/17/10
Slovenia 12/17/09 $1,364,852 1/17/10
South Africa (Entire Region) 12/18/09 $4,333,524 1/17/10
South Korea 12/17/09 $70,702,863 1/17/10
Spain 12/18/09 $69,168,329 1/17/10
Sweden 12/18/09 $14,368,600 1/17/10
Switzerland 12/17/09 $11,361,608 1/17/10
Syria 12/17/09 $81,779 1/13/10
Taiwan 12/18/09 $19,078,191 1/17/10
Thailand 12/17/09 $7,469,940 1/17/10
Trinidad & Tobago 12/16/09 $450,684 1/13/10
Turkey 12/18/09 $11,070,685 1/17/10
Ukraine 12/17/09 $5,604,863 1/17/10
United Arab Emirates 12/17/09 $4,621,093 1/17/10
United Kingdom and Ireland and Malta 12/18/09 $80,683,974 1/17/10
Uruguay 1/1/10 $502,606 1/13/10
Venezuela 12/18/09 $7,055,591 1/17/10
Vietnam 12/18/09 $835,523 1/10/10
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The Chinese government is pulling Avatar from the country's conventional 2D cinemas.
The Golden Globe winner is to be replaced by a biopic based on the life of Confucius starring Chow-Yun Fat, reports the Los Angeles Times.
The government has not stated why the film has been ordered off 2D screens. Avatar is still playing in many of China's 3D theatres.
A Hong Kong newspaper speculated that the Chinese government is opposed to the film's politics, especially the idea that indigenous people are uprooted from their homes.
It has also been suggested that the movie is taking up too much of the Chinese cinema industry's market share. Traditionally, domestic films take the place of foreign films in the nation's cinemas at the start of the Chinese New Year.
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It has been pulled from chinese cinemas, in 2d anyway
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Member Since: 10/21/2005
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^Their pressed
Read the last line. It's doing better than their own films. This movie is so epic, not even Country's can handle it.
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^I like your Avatar. What website do you go to figure out what yours look like? I assume you inserted a face picture and they created your Avatar from that!
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Departure
^I like your Avatar. What website do you go to figure out what yours look like? I assume you inserted a face picture and they created your Avatar from that!
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sorry,i just found that picture on the net.I don't know how to make them
oh,That's Mr. Bean!Not me!
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