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Janet Thread | WE'RE BACK
Member Since: 7/7/2005
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WOW, I just knew yall was gon love this since its pop and this is a pop forum. I love the dance songs, her best this decade (never heard All For You) and Can't B Good. The rest sucks but her interludes are nice. No I'm not buying the album but I will buy the songs I liked. I think this might be her best album since All For You. Damita Jo had too much filler and 40 Y.O was just horrible. Her dance songs are better than Rihanna, ******* & Beyonce latests which shocked me. I'd definitely recommend this album before the others.
Now here comes the real..... its sad that this album will not put her back on the level of her peers like Mariah & Madonna and that we have to compare Janet to people 20 years younger than her. Thats a damn shame and its a damn shame how bad she is going to flop.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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OMG OMG!!!!
This album was really good yall are crazy!!! The only parts I didn't really like were some of the slow stuff but overall this was a great album, i'm buying it on tuesday!! The interludes were soo good!!!
My Favs right now:
01. Luv
02. All The Interludes!!
03. Rollercoaster
04. Greatest X
05. So Much Betta
06. The 1
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Member Since: 8/9/2004
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I'm really surprised. The album is incredible. The upbeats are AMAZING and the mid-tempos are definitely growers. The only song that truly sucks is "Rollercoaster" but the rest is fine. The interludes and the futuristic moments are brilliant. And most importantly, SO MUCH BETTA is Janet's best up-beat song to date. I've had this song on repeat since the leak. It's a revolution in music history. Discipline (the song) is jaw-dropping.
This album is like the best I've heard since "Blackout". Unfortunately, It will perform horrendously on the charts and I have no ****ing idea why she chose "Rock Wit U" as 2nd single when she has plenty of great choices. She's a dumbass. But welcome back to quality, Janet.
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Member Since: 9/11/2007
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the interludes getin annoying after uve heard the album like 3 times. i hate all the sexual stuff on the end of the album so lame
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Member Since: 10/14/2007
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i dont like , is funny how janet copy from britney's album, im talkin seriously, maybe britney should copy from janet no?
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Member Since: 3/19/2003
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I think Janet needs to lay off on the overkill of tracks on her albums. I noticed a pattern that her albums that had a gazillion tracks always flop. AFY was probably the only exception but then again that only went 2x platinum.
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Member Since: 8/9/2004
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Originally posted by Kaos
I think Janet needs to lay off on the overkill of tracks on her albums. I noticed a pattern that her albums that had a gazillion tracks always flop. AFY was probably the only exception but then again that only went 2x platinum.
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This post made absolutely no sense. LMAO.
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Member Since: 3/19/2003
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Originally posted by Peepshow
This post made absolutely no sense. LMAO.
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Overkill of tracks = too much too many in one album
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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Originally posted by Fercho
i dont like , is funny how janet copy from britney's album, im talkin seriously, maybe britney should copy from janet no?
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STFU!!!!!!!!! You are so ignorant, this album sounds nothing like "Blackout" with exception of "Feedback" & "So Much Betta". Janet doesn't need to copy her, Britney is a aspring Janet, stop bringing Janet VS. Britney in here cause it's all BS
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Member Since: 10/14/2007
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
STFU!!!!!!!!! You are so ignorant, this album sounds nothing like "Blackout" with exception of "Feedback" & "So Much Betta". Janet doesn't need to copy her, Britney is a aspring Janet, stop bringing Janet VS. Britney in here cause it's all BS
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its my opinion, again!
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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^well, you make no sense, you seem to not have even heard it, the way you are talking
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Member Since: 6/6/2006
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Originally posted by Fercho
i dont like , is funny how janet copy from britney's album, im talkin seriously, maybe britney should copy from janet no?
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STOP TALKING ABOUT BRITNEY! I don't know why you keep comparing them. Their albums aren't similar at all. I keep hearing people say "That singer is trying to be Britney!" when they are not at all. The music industry does not revolve around Britney.
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Member Since: 6/6/2006
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Originally posted by Kaos
I think Janet needs to lay off on the overkill of tracks on her albums. I noticed a pattern that her albums that had a gazillion tracks always flop. AFY was probably the only exception but then again that only went 2x platinum.
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The Velvet Rope had 22 tracks and All For You had 20 tracks. Janet is just known for having a lot of tracks and interludes on her album.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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Yeah and the album wouldn't be the same without the interludes!
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Member Since: 8/9/2004
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plus the interludes are like harmless 15 seconds maximum and she doesn't use them to stretch her album to a double-disc like Gagilera does, for example.
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Member Since: 6/26/2005
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Originally posted by Kaos
I think Janet needs to lay off on the overkill of tracks on her albums. I noticed a pattern that her albums that had a gazillion tracks always flop. AFY was probably the only exception but then again that only went 2x platinum.
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um... what about Rhythm Nation and Janet.... Rhythm Nation had like 21 songs and Janet 27 (with interludes) and they were huge successes. and Velvet Rope didn't do bad either... it had 20-some songs on it. All of her albums have had a whole slew of tracks because of interludes... except Control, which had no interludes and only 9 songs... other than that, i think 20 Y.O had the least at 16.
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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Janet's good at delivering quantity, but not so much quality
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Despite any suspicions that the title of Janet Jackson's new album, Discipline, might be referring to the secret behind the singer's recent weight loss, the single-word designation was encouraging for those who prefer Janet taking control and cracking the whip (both as leader of her Rhythm Nation and the boss of her bedroom) over the vapid, single-girl come-ons of her last three albums. Disappointingly, the title track doesn't hark back to the self-empowerment of Control, but rather the S&M of The Velvet Rope. Lyrics like "I touched myself/Even though you told me not to" and "Daddy, I disobeyed ya/Now I want you to come punish me" invite all kinds of psychoanalysis that only grow more disturbing when you remember who her daddy really is, which would be fascinating if she hadn't already written the sexier (and less creepy) "Rope Burn." Velvet Rope was Janet's finest statement as an artist in that it found her internalizing the political, but simply rehashing her deep-seeded desire to be dominated isn't a step forward.
And moving forward is exactly what Janet hasn't been able to do, at least creatively, since she split with covert co-writer/hubby René Elizondo Jr. The fact that she got dumb on All For You over the prospect of finding new dick was excusable, but Damita Jo, her first record after shacking up with Jermaine Dupri and exposing her star-shaped hardware to 90 million people, wasn't exactly the examination of identity and media that it should have been. The woman who once accused Madonna of having no class has spent a decade and a half telling us how, when, where, and by whom she likes to get her ***** eaten. ("The Meaning"—an interlude in the vein of Velvet Rope's "Speaker Phone," in which she forced a friend to listen to her masturbate—literally finds Janet reading from a dictionary while pleasuring herself.)
Janet's second favorite pastime, of course, is dancing, and the suspicion that her interest in nonsexual themes might have been outsourced was hinted at nearly two decades ago when she followed up the trio of socially-conscious tunes that were to ostensibly set the tone for Rhythm Nation with: "Get the point? Good. Now let's dance." (As if you couldn't get the point while dancing, but I digress.) Discipline does address some of the problems with her last few albums: Lead single "Feedback" is only a notch above 2004's "All Nite (Don't Stop)," (EXACTLY! I told ya'll "Feedback" is no different from "All Nite") but it possesses all the lyrical sass and club-affability that was promised with 2006's 20 Y.O. and is thus somewhat of a comeback for Janet. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis's absence (for the first time since Control) is, not surprisingly, a non-issue; aside from a track or two, they haven't really produced anything inspired for their biggest client since the 1990s.
A slew of big-name producers, both new and old, fill in for Jam and Lewis, including Dupri, Rodney Jerkins, Stargate, The-Dream, and Tricky Stewart. As usual, Dupri's contributions are a mix of pleasant surprises and disappointments: Last time out, JD gave his girlfriend an '80s freestyle track to call her own ("Get It Out Me"); here, he offers up a slice of spacey Euro-disco with "Rock With U," co-penned by Ne-Yo. The slow jam "Never Letchu Go," however, is like an '80s power ballad without the power—and with two garish soap-opera guitar solos. Janet has delegated all songwriting responsibilities, but the results aren't any kind of marked improvement, consisting of bits of wisdom like, "Strobe lights make everything…sexier." Really, Ne-Yo? They usually just give me a headache. Questionable lyrics like "Hoo-ooo, make me cry" aside, the title track, also co-written by Ne-Yo, does boast some interesting vocal arrangements, making it one of Janet's most successful sex ballads in years.
If one were to try to identify some kind of evolution in Janet's latest bout of dirty talk, it might be sex with robots. Throughout the album, she talks to and interacts with a rather compassionate computer DJ named Kyoko, and her voice is robotic and synthetic on tracks like "Feedback" and the Daft Punk-sampling "So Much Betta"—not necessarily such a bad thing for an artist whose vocals often consist of unintelligible murmuring to begin with. At 22 tracks, Discipline is anything but disciplined, but it's also Janet's most cohesive album in a while. Just don't call it a comeback—at least not until she reunites with her "greatest ex."
- Slant (3.0/5.0 stars)
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They really sum this **** up. Her loony fans are so desperate for her to be a success, they are looking past the horribleness of this album. They don't even have this promoted at Wal*Mart, which I just left to buy Lupe's album  *.
Anyways, yeah, Janet's career is over. She is a legend, an icon, blah blah, but its sad she can't continue to shine a light on that plaque. People want to bash Britney or Madonna for being all sexual and controversy, but Janet is just them but without as much as controversy. And I can't believe she called Madonna unclassy.  This bitch who likes to have her crunchy puss disciplined? Calling someone who is nearly a decade her senior and can still sell albums unclassy? Bitch, move on.
As for the Britney discussion, stop it here. This album doesn't sound anywhere near "blackout". "Feedback" only sounds like anything from that album. The only thing "Discpline" and "BO" share is both of them not writing a single track, but I must say this album is 1000x more digitalized than Barney's, and more sexual. But of course Janet fans won't call her out on it. 
Anyways, I was ready to buy this album, but after hearing the **** that it is, like I said I went and spent the rest of my money on Lupe. **** Janet and her cooing about heavy periods. When she REALLY gets back on track with creativity, because "Velvet Rope" was still pretty nasty, but at least the music and writing was better, then I can respect her again.
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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Originally posted by Hit The Lights
Anyways, I was ready to buy this album, but after hearing the **** that it is, like I said I went and spent the rest of my money on Lupe. **** Janet and her cooing about heavy periods. When she REALLY gets back on track with creativity, because "Velvet Rope" was still pretty nasty, but at least the music and writing was better, then I can respect her again.
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Rico--AMAZING commentary as always. I was just thinking back to the late 90's when The Velvet Rope and Ray of Light came out around the same time. It seemed like coincidence that the two leading ladies of pop delivered each of their best albums around the same time. It's a shame about Janet, but about the whole classy argument, give me an F-ing break. Madonna's lyrics have never been anywhere near as graphic as Janet's have (listen to Erotica, most of the songs are about heartbreak, not sex) and at least Madonna learned what her boundaries were after the SEX book debacle. Janet hasn't learned squat from her last two (soon to be three) disappointments AND the superbowl incident. She needs to give it up. It's seriously pathetic. nuroad, I am entitled to these opinions and it bears repeating that Janet has seriously lost her touch. I am sorry if you think these are "hateful" criticisms but I stand by what I say. See, Janet hasn't mastered the art of innuendo. Madonna tries to grow with her music and not rest on her laurels. Madonna has made some missteps but at least she's making effort, and even when her music is superficial (i.e. COADF) she knows how to make it fresh. Janet can still be sexual, I mean, look at Madonna and the way she simulated that orgy in the "Hung Up" video. I just think she needs to take a new approach to it. The Velvet Rope was kinky, but her mind wasn't focused exclusively on sex and shenanigans. She addressed domestic abuse, self-esteem, AIDS...her music had a purpose back then. Not everything has to be bogged down in social commentary, but the least she could do is make her music sound more than just phoned in.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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^very true. Janet used to have reasons in her music, now nothing in her songs seem to point at anything. nothing in her personal life, going on the world. nothing. she's trying to hard to bare herself down to the youthful music of today, and she's baring too much.
"I am sorry if you think these are "hateful" criticisms but I stand by what I say."
And I'm happy with that comment. Fans are gonna take what I said, and bash me for saying it, 99% most likely to throw Britney in the mix, and I'm just gonna ignore it, cause I WAS really interested to see how this record would turn out, and it turned out what I unfortunately predicted, but didn't want to believe.
My prediction for next week, 200k+ first week, depending on the promo + single releases, at this point releasing "Rock Wit U" as the 2nd single doesn't look like they'll be smart with the releases, is if its have longevity. Janet has done no promo prior to this, besides interviews. Doing last minute performances in Times Square isn't gonna push people to buy it, so they messed up not whoring her around.
Its sad Mariah is gonna foreshadow Janet even before her era begins.
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