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Fan Base: Avril Lavigne
Member Since: 1/6/2011
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David Hodges unfollowed Avril on Twitter.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Lippy
I don't think she is working on the album anymore. She may have written like 3-4 basic songs when she was inspired by Lyme, then maybe some Xmas ones and ultimately she realized all of that sucks and Epic would ruin the era anyway and she's so irrelevant that she would have to open for that Nick Carter guy, so now she's just enjoying her $ doing nothing.
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Kiii i agree
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Member Since: 9/8/2011
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Originally posted by greeneyedsoul
David Hodges unfollowed Avril on Twitter.
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All her producers end up doing it eventually
But well, let's not act like his work on AL was amazing. He was involved on the best AL songs but she can still find a better songwriter/producer, so it's not a huge waste even if they had a conflict.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Lippy
All her producers end up doing it eventually
But well, let's not act like his work on AL was amazing. He was involved on the best AL songs but she can still find a better songwriter/producer, so it's not a huge waste even if they had a conflict.
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but really... is she really that difficult to work with or what?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I actually liked David I wanted her to work with him again I'm gonna go and look if she's still following him, maybe there's hope
I was watching the google hangout interview she did with fans back in September 2013, I noticed how she didn't wanna talk about other artists at all, she didn't wanna talk about her influences nor people she'd like to work with.
With all the fallouts she had with her ex producers like The Matrix, Chantal, Butch, the guy from Boys Like Girls and now David, it really makes me more curious about how she's treating her writers & producers. I guess this is why we never get to have the studio documentary we all wanted last era
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Member Since: 1/6/2011
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Avril still follows him. He just mad because none of his songs were hits and he didn't get any money from it...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by greeneyedsoul
Avril still follows him. He just mad because none of his songs were hits and he didn't get any money from it...
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Can we take a moment to appreciate the real concepts of GL & AL The accoustic GL with Gone, Fine but still has hit songs written by Bonnie Mckee, The Runners..etc & The dark AL which was a mixture between GL & UMS, which was all tripod songs, aka the only good songs she made in the last three years
I guess he has the right to be bitter about her not releasing these songs. Justice for Hello Heartache.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Also I wanna take the discussion between me & musicman to the base:
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Off of LG she should've released ABO and then TINS instead of Losing Grip. With UMS, MHE should've been the lead followed by FTP, then DTM and close the era with NH. KHO should have been a single with a MV and proper release, it was a smash waiting to be released. , hense why it's still one of her biggest hits even with the way they treated it.
And don't let me get started with TBDT, if they were planning to do a sell out why cut the era like that and not trying to milk it even more. After the huge success of GF, the follow up should've been Runaway in summer followed by When You're Gone in winter. start the tour and rerelease the damn album with IWB as the lead single. It could'be a huge radio smash in 2008, Which could've been followed by Innocence as a close up to the era, I know by that point it'd be three back to back ballads but that would've fixed her image and gave her a more grown up AC artist view that can help her later on the radio with raw, mellow releases such as GL and AL (the original versions).
This way they could've reduced the period of the hiatus between TBDT & GL, by extending TBDT and changing her image so that her label would no longer see her as a pop punk bratty girl and try to release more versions of GF.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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VEVO views update of the week
#1 Girlfriend 305.772.560 (+985.000)
#2 Wish You Were Here 250.206.665 (+616.000)
#3 What The Hell 247.241.499 (+545.000)
#4 When You're Gone 244.507.956 (+713.000)
#5 Smile 128.688.282 (+417.000)
#6 Here's To Never Growing Up 117.346.976 (+395.000)
#7 Hello Kitty 102.370.425 (+558.000)
#8 Complicated 99.017.895 (+565.000) VEVO certified in 2 weeks
#9 Let Me Go 98.139.727 (+342.000) VEVO certified in 5 weeks
#10 Hot 96.331.061 (+211.000) VEVO certified in 14 weeks
#11 My Happy Ending 66.521.102 (+511.000)
#12 Sk8er Boi 65.354.349 (+422.000)
#13 I'm With You 65.129.616 (+368.000)
#14 Rock N Roll 60.747.100 (+276.000)
#15 Nobody's Home 37.871.454 (+249.000)
#16 The Best Damn Thing 32.117.903 (+140.000)
#17 Girlfriend (remix) 29.585.562 (+10.000)
#18 Don't Tell Me 27.596.176 (+181.000)
#19 Give You What You Like 24.574.639 (+177.000)
#20 Alice 18.923.399 (+75.000)
#21 Losing Grip 16.407.702 (+136.000)
#22 My Happy Ending (Explicit) 7.210.183 (+8.000)
#23 He Wasn't 7.043.934 (+21.000)
#24 Fly 3.245.123 (+39.000)
#25 Don't Tell Me (clean) 2.049.001
#26 Girlfriend (remix clean version) 1.626.385
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Black Umbrella
Also I wanna take the discussion between me & musicman to the base:
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Yes to all of that
Her eras have been done so wrong, and it's only gotten worse with each album. GL and AL would have done so much better if they were released how Avril originally intended and with singles that actually represented the albums well. I still think GYWYL and Hello Heartache should have been the first two singles from AL.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Black Umbrella
Can we take a moment to appreciate the real concepts of GL & AL The accoustic GL with Gone, Fine but still has hit songs written by Bonnie Mckee, The Runners..etc & The dark AL which was a mixture between GL & UMS, which was all tripod songs, aka the only good songs she made in the last three years
I guess he has the right to be bitter about her not releasing these songs. Justice for Hello Heartache.
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Will we ever get to hear these unreleased leftover songs?
A lot of them are probably better than some songs that actually made it onto GL and AL.
Avril needs to start at least releasing proper bonus tracks, not the "acoustic" versions of album tracks. I mean all-new songs that would otherwise be left to collect dust amongst her other unreleased songs. I wish she was more generous with her music like other artists are.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Sk8er Boi
VEVO views update of the week
#1 Girlfriend 305.772.560 (+985.000)
#2 Wish You Were Here 250.206.665 (+616.000)
#3 What The Hell 247.241.499 (+545.000)
#4 When You're Gone 244.507.956 (+713.000)
#5 Smile 128.688.282 (+417.000)
#6 Here's To Never Growing Up 117.346.976 (+395.000)
#7 Hello Kitty 102.370.425 (+558.000)
#8 Complicated 99.017.895 (+565.000) VEVO certified in 2 weeks
#9 Let Me Go 98.139.727 (+342.000) VEVO certified in 5 weeks
#10 Hot 96.331.061 (+211.000) VEVO certified in 14 weeks
#11 My Happy Ending 66.521.102 (+511.000)
#12 Sk8er Boi 65.354.349 (+422.000)
#13 I'm With You 65.129.616 (+368.000)
#14 Rock N Roll 60.747.100 (+276.000)
#15 Nobody's Home 37.871.454 (+249.000)
#16 The Best Damn Thing 32.117.903 (+140.000)
#17 Girlfriend (remix) 29.585.562 (+10.000)
#18 Don't Tell Me 27.596.176 (+181.000)
#19 Give You What You Like 24.574.639 (+177.000)
#20 Alice 18.923.399 (+75.000)
#21 Losing Grip 16.407.702 (+136.000)
#22 My Happy Ending (Explicit) 7.210.183 (+8.000)
#23 He Wasn't 7.043.934 (+21.000)
#24 Fly 3.245.123 (+39.000)
#25 Don't Tell Me (clean) 2.049.001
#26 Girlfriend (remix clean version) 1.626.385
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The views this week are bad MHE having more views than LMG, RnR, Smile, Hot & HTNGU
8#, 9# & 10# are taking forever to get certified.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by NoRhymeOrReason
Yes to all of that
Her eras have been done so wrong, and it's only gotten worse with each album. GL and AL would have done so much better if they were released how Avril originally intended and with singles that actually represented the albums well. I still think GYWYL and Hello Heartache should have been the first two singles from AL.
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Well what can we change now
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Originally posted by NoRhymeOrReason
Will we ever get to hear these unreleased leftover songs?
A lot of them are probably better than some songs that actually made it onto GL and AL.
Avril needs to start at least releasing proper bonus tracks, not the "acoustic" versions of album tracks. I mean all-new songs that would otherwise be left to collect dust amongst her other unreleased songs. I wish she was more generous with her music like other artists are.
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I guess we'll just get them when she pass by Labels are horrible for making artists go back to studio and forcing them to make radio material.
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Member Since: 6/14/2007
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Let's all watch the timeless iconic classic COMPLICATED
We need to start 2016 with an accomplishment
Btw are they going to add her preVEVO views or why they don't appear anymore?
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Originally posted by greeneyedsoul
David Hodges unfollowed Avril on Twitter.
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Awesome
Now go with a BIG / GOOD producer for next era.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 9/25/2011
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Originally posted by Black Umbrella
Also I wanna take the discussion between me & musicman to the base:
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Off of LG she should've released ABO and then TINS instead of Losing Grip. With UMS, MHE should've been the lead followed by FTP, then DTM and close the era with NH. KHO should have been a single with a MV and proper release, it was a smash waiting to be released. , hense why it's still one of her biggest hits even with the way they treated it.
And don't let me get started with TBDT, if they were planning to do a sell out why cut the era like that and not trying to milk it even more. After the huge success of GF, the follow up should've been Runaway in summer followed by When You're Gone in winter. start the tour and rerelease the damn album with IWB as the lead single. It could'be a huge radio smash in 2008, Which could've been followed by Innocence as a close up to the era, I know by that point it'd be three back to back ballads but that would've fixed her image and gave her a more grown up AC artist view that can help her later on the radio with raw, mellow releases such as GL and AL (the original versions).
This way they could've reduced the period of the hiatus between TBDT & GL, by extending TBDT and changing her image so that her label would no longer see her as a pop punk bratty girl and try to release more versions of GF.
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Spot-on statement
They went over-the-top with her bratty image, even marketing her to children and young teenagers with her clothing line. Runaway was a solid "mid-point" between the brattiness and AC that WYG and IWB would've been, and that she could've endorsed for AL4. But they later focused too much on "re-create" Girlfriend success and two albums and eras were ruined because of that, not only success-wise, but music-wise. I hope they let her do her thing FOR REAL next album...
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Originally posted by NoRhymeOrReason
Yes to all of that
Her eras have been done so wrong, and it's only gotten worse with each album. GL and AL would have done so much better if they were released how Avril originally intended and with singles that actually represented the albums well. I still think GYWYL and Hello Heartache should have been the first two singles from AL.
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Definitely, it was all ruined by the ****ing labels. And those songs would've represented the album very well, and she could've SLAYED at AC charts if given the chance. But what's done is done, I hope they took notes for next era
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Black Umbrella
Well what can we change now
I guess we'll just get them when she pass by Labels are horrible for making artists go back to studio and forcing them to make radio material.
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Ugh labels are the worst. I wish I could be in charge of a record label and just let artists do their thing and make the music they want to make. Avril does not do well with being forced into making "radio-friendly" music.
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Originally posted by Jack Jackson
Spot-on statement
They went over-the-top with her bratty image, even marketing her to children and young teenagers with her clothing line. Runaway was a solid "mid-point" between the brattiness and AC that WYG and IWB would've been, and that she could've endorsed for AL4. But they later focused too much on "re-create" Girlfriend success and two albums and eras were ruined because of that, not only success-wise, but music-wise. I hope they let her do her thing FOR REAL next album...
Definitely, it was all ruined by the ****ing labels. And those songs would've represented the album very well, and she could've SLAYED at AC charts if given the chance. But what's done is done, I hope they took notes for next era
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I'll be so happy if Avril's next era is done right. Proper music, proper image, good singles, everything lining up how it used to for her. She's had two strikes so far and I don't know if she can afford another one. :/ I'm ready for her to be an AC artist and stop aiming for Hot 100 pop. It'd work a lot better for her.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by greeneyedsoul
Avril still follows him. He just mad because none of his songs were hits and he didn't get any money from it...
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who? Evan could write better than him tho (#NowPlaying Push, Hot, Innocence, Everyone Hurts >>>>>>> )
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Member Since: 1/28/2010
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Originally posted by greeneyedsoul
David Hodges unfollowed Avril on Twitter.
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Is she one of producers on Avril Lavigne?
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Member Since: 1/28/2010
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Everyone seems to be lazy to post anything here
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Originally posted by Black Umbrella
Also I wanna take the discussion between me & musicman to the base:
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What a ****ing mess obvioulsy no
Maybe you weren't here during her early eras but Let Go and UMS were handled perfectly as well as TBDT I agree that KHO should have a video and maybe Hot shouldn't be a single during that time but now it is one of her best songs such as the video so I would't change it maybe the 4th single yes but it wasn't officially released and it was obvious TBDT was going to be one (actually the lead single was between GF and TBDT)
What should have changed was after that, obviously no long break and WTH should be released like in 2009 (it would be #1 without a doubt) then alice as soudtrack and everything as it was
So in 2011 GL finally released but with WYWH as the lead single also she should get larry as manager just after TBDT era to gain some publicity and stuff since 09
About the AL era well I don't know just better promo and less mess for the label same for GL as we all obviously know also tbh music could be better I mean the production on AL
But doing all things right this time queen can easily comeback specially after all this hard time, she should start her comeback next year so by 2017 she's on top of the world once again!
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