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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#1)
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Oh, I approve an Amos Lee colab!
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
Oh, I approve an Amos Lee colab!
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That gif is crazy  I'm glad you aprove disco I'm getting tired of the wait for this album at least we got a few good releases coming out before Taylor to tie me over until she blows my mind  but I'm ready for the new music now 
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
That gif is crazy I'm glad you aprove disco I'm getting tired of the wait for this album at least we got a few good releases coming out before Taylor to tie me over until she blows my mind but I'm ready for the new music now |
Queen Kylie Minogue is perfect I know.  And I feel the same tbh. And with the new perfume, the hype-o-meter has been -10 right now. 
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Queen Kylie Minogue is perfect I know. And I feel the same tbh. And with the new perfume, the hype-o-meter has been -10 right now. |
The perfume does nothing for me either but I know all those artists do things for more money. I mean Carlos Santana has a line of women's shoes he sells.  The B.O.B song kinda ruined the hype for me. I wish she stopped at Safe and Sound so I'd just have insane expectations for this album but most of the artists she's been working with on this new album are good so that is the one thing keeping my expectations high
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
The perfume does nothing for me either but I know all those artists do things for more money. I mean Carlos Santana has a line of women's shoes he sells. The B.O.B song kinda ruined the hype for me. I wish she stopped at Safe and Sound so I'd just have insane expectations for this album but most of the artists she's been working with on this new album are good so that is the one thing keeping my expectations high |
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And I'm not gonna expect too much from this album (sales wise and quality wise). Especially after the Bieber-fiasco and it would be delusional for me to expect LP4 to be as good as Fiona's album.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
jasdhewudbgashdbiucwewihdew
And I'm not gonna expect too much from this album (sales wise and quality wise). Especially after the Bieber-fiasco and it would be delusional for me to expect LP4 to be as good as Fiona's album. |
I always set high expectations for all the albums I listen too and the bieber thing is just what happens when your friens with people. I mean we had Mick Jagger work with Will.I.am cause he's friends with him. When your talented your talented and as long as she doesn't sell-out and put out generic music it should be good. The biggest worry I have is that she cares more about radio success than quality music because she has so much potential and I don't want to ever jump ship but I will if she goes that route.
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
I always set high expectations for all the albums I listen too and the bieber thing is just what happens when your friens with people. I mean we had Mick Jagger work with Will.I.am cause he's friends with him. When your talented your talented and as long as she doesn't sell-out and put out generic music it should be good. The biggest worry I have is that she cares more about radio success than quality music because she has so much potential and I don't want to ever jump ship but I will if she goes that route.
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And this is why you're my favourite Taylor stan.
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
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I've found a new favourite music forum to stalk  Ilxor. It consists primarily of music journalists.
These threads on Taylor are amazing:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelec...threadid=65680 (thread on Fearless)
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelec...threadid=81692 (thread on Speak Now)
Lots of posts on Taylor by journalists like Tim Finney and Jordan Sargent (both of whom write for Pitchfork) as well as Alex Macpherson (writes for The Guardian) and loads of others who I can't identify.
All of Tim Finney's posts are especially incredible. For example:
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My two biggest non-2008 obsessions this year have been Fela Kuti and Taylor Swift. Fela, of course, invented afro-beat. Taylor meanwhile is the latest young star of mainstream country, her 2006 eponymous debut album one of the best pop albums of this decade – certainly as a collection of confessional pop only Ashlee Simpson’s ‘I Am Me’ (and, perhaps, Kelly Clarkson’s ‘Breakaway) comes close.
Those suspicious of mainstream country tend to think that an example of greatness in this arena would require some fundamental undermining, subversion or, at least, transcendence of the style’s modus operandi. Taylor does none of this: her first album is glowing, maximalist studio-perfected country-pop, every inch of the stereo speaker filled with glowing guitars, hokey mandolins, gratuitous violin refrains. Taylor’s voice is just twangy enough to be clearly of its genre without seemed confined by it. Most difficult to pin down is Taylor’s songwriting, which manages to combine the generic with the idiosyncratic in ways that are just endlessly loveable (most famously, her first single “Tim McGraw” is a sweet curse laid on an ex-boyfriend to always think of her when he even thinks of country singer Tim McGraw, let alone hears ‘their song’). Rather than break with tradition, Taylor finds new and interesting ways to say things within that tradition; if you’ve never quite “got” with mainstream country I can’t think of a better gateway drug. Plus, she’s definitely one of the best lyricists in pop right now.
“Love Story”, as you might expect from a forthcoming second album arriving on the back of an ever-expanding public profile, is much more internationalist in feel. Oh, there’s a twangy mandolin throughout, but this is more than matched by the burnished sheen of the almost new wavey guitar and the unexpectedly subtle slow burn of the chorus. The tale of fantastic (in both senses) young love is also much more in line with the expectations of broader pop audiences – whereas Taylor’s first album was filled with the typically country concerns of failed romances, “what does he see in her?” pining, and one of my favourites, “Mary’s Song (Oh My My)” which covers about eighty years of a proudly domestic long term relationship like an ad campaign for life insurance.
Taylor’s capacity for astonishingly on-point specificity is largely jettisoned as she paints more a widescreen, mythological tale of love found, lost and regained, but even if the eventual marriage proposal has an air of broad brush strokes about it (I liked this denouement in “Mary’s Song” just a little more), Taylor finds space to inject the mythic with her own sensibility. “You were Romeo/I was a Scarlet Letter”, she sighs, encapsulating the imagined and then real disapproval of her father and a broader conservative community at her shameful seduction (“Romeo” gets off scot free, of course). It’s rare for pop to find a way to express the intimacy of love while simultaneously painting in the landscape of the outside world, and most songs ultimately plump for one or the other. But Taylor learns as much from ‘Romeo & Juliet’ as you could hope for from an adolescent, and in “Love Story” each world traces the outline of the other, throwing the contours of the other into relief - abandonment is even harder to bear in the face of the whole world's "I told you so..."
In an odd way, I’m reminded of Vanessa Carlton, who at her best combined that earnest literateness with giggly youth and a deadly grip on a good hook – “Love Story” is a companion piece to “White Houses” in my head at least. Taylor is typically funnier or nastier or more voluptuously morose than Vanessa, but the distance is smaller than usual here: “Love Story” sacrifices such shadings for the sake of providing proof that she can deliver an anthem “straight”, without a tear or a chuckle. It’s not all of what I want from her, but it’s as much as I could ask from a wistful, heart-pumping pop song.
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And the Ashlee stanning I can't. I'm never going to bed. Just gonna read ilxor posts about Taylor instead.
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Great Username
I've found a new favourite music forum to stalk Ilxor. It consists primarily of music journalists.
These threads on Taylor are amazing:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelec...threadid=65680 (thread on Fearless)
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelec...threadid=81692 (thread on Speak Now)
Lots of posts on Taylor by journalists like Tim Finney and Jordan Sargent (both of whom write for Pitchfork) as well as Alex Macpherson (writes for The Guardian) and loads of others who I can't identify.
All of Tim Finney's posts are especially incredible. For example:
And the Ashlee stanning I can't. I'm never going to bed. Just gonna read ilxor posts about Taylor instead. |
Something to pass my time with. <3
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by Great Username
I've found a new favourite music forum to stalk Ilxor. It consists primarily of music journalists.
These threads on Taylor are amazing:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelec...threadid=65680 (thread on Fearless)
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelec...threadid=81692 (thread on Speak Now)
Lots of posts on Taylor by journalists like Tim Finney and Jordan Sargent (both of whom write for Pitchfork) as well as Alex Macpherson (writes for The Guardian) and loads of others who I can't identify.
All of Tim Finney's posts are especially incredible. For example:
And the Ashlee stanning I can't. I'm never going to bed. Just gonna read ilxor posts about Taylor instead. |
Will never leave the internet. 
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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I was watching NBC and the commercial for the Macy's fireworks came on and guess who's name was announced first so much promo for sparks fly! 
I know this song has references to sparks and fireworks and all, but I'm surprised they didn't pick a more patriotic song. 
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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I'm a stranger in an all night diner, waiting for her love to find her
Lonely like a harbor light, thats never seen a boat
Just a line in an old love letter, than no one ever wrote
I need a studio version of this song
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
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a lot of it is how disciplined and attentive her songs are -- they're about extremely specific situations, not just detail-wise but emotionally. so like instead of a song that's just generically about how much she loves you, there's a song ("mine") about how she's been living with you for a while and feeling her usual fear of commitment and edginess because she had a difficult relationship with her father in ways that aren't made explicit but the emotional effects of which are clear, and about how you have confounded her expectations and reassured her and provided the support and love she'd been compulsively afraid of not getting. and the song is really well-structured: every line simultaneously moves forward the present-tense plot (you and her) and fleshes out the past-tense one (her and her dad); there's no dedicated flashback verse or explicit descriptions of her childhood.
part of this structural thing is that she uses words much more carefully and with much more attention to their effects than a lot of other pop stars: cf. the multiple implications of the word "mean" in the song "mean"; the thing in "back to december" where she wishes she could go back to december (so she could fix a mistake) but also does go back to december (as in obsessively remembers it) all the time, and there's this huge poignant gulf between the two meanings of the phrase; in "sparks fly" she keeps saying "DROP EVERYTHING NOW" and means both "drop what you're doing" (so you can **** her) and "drop your hesitations and moral qualms about this probable bad idea" (so you can **** her). at her best there's this economy of language that's really really great.
all that stuff is lyrical obv but on the last album she's gotten a lot more interesting sonically -- become a much better performer, grown more in command of her songs, learned how to sell the different characters she adopts for them, spontaneously giggles more. one of the things that's cool about her is that she actually seems to be working on her talent, which is likely to grow.
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Will never leave the internet. |
They over analyse her songs way too much, stripping from it any lyrical merits that are present.
I'm reading the SN thread, btw.
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Amazing.
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Originally posted by Icannot
They over analyse her songs way too much, stripping from it any lyrical merits that are present.
I'm reading the SN thread, btw.
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And that's why they are called as journalists.  (And of course, I'm still there)
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Amazing.
And that's why they are called as journalists. (And of course, I'm still there) |
If being a journalist means completely missing the point of her song writing and finding offence from them, then okay.
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Originally posted by Icannot
If being a journalist means completely missing the point of her song writing and finding offence from them, then okay.
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Chill dude. And I actually did the same thing once. Over analyzing *****. 
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its been a while since i posted here so any news about her album?
in btw Hola everyone
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Voted even if we have no chance of winning
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