[lightstheyblindme]

Originally posted by Matangi

BYE @ the Emilia haters. The queen of this world is flawless the way she is.

[Fruity]

I LOVE Dany, she is my wallpaper and everything, and I know her material isn't great at the moment. But whatever. I have to agree that Emilia is easily the weakest actor of the lead roles.

Her performances completely and utterly lack any kind of subtlety. Her delivery is always stumpy and one dimensional. It's as if she thinks moving her eyebrows and altering her face as much as possible will give depth and believability behind what she is saying. She reeks of all acting school but little talent to me. I just find her delivery so stale. It's only the epic monologues which work well because she assumes that stage style, trying-to-be-commanding/powerful voice with her every line.

[somehomo]

I've seen every episode of the show and I am just finally getting around to reading the books. Honestly my favorite part about the entire TV show is/was hearing High Valyrian and Dothraki spoken

[Skywalker]

idk I think it is weird now because I was completely convinced Emilia was in love with Khal Drogo and wanted that bitch that killed him to really suffer. It was great acting.

[WoozyFloozy]

I'm positive that if they gave Emilia a chance, she could show some variety. Watching interviews, it's so weird how most of the actors have an understanding of the characters that is way more in line with the sources than the writers' understanding, despite a majority of the actors not reading the books. Emilia sees the uncertainty and fear in Dany, which is a HUGE part of her character in the novels but the writers totally gloss over in order to make Dany some one-note bad bitch who burns slave masters and speaks High Valyrian and Dothraki. Emilia has potential, the show just needs to give her the opportunity. Until then, I unfortunately agree that her performance is among the worst, but it's not her fault. She was amazing in season 1 because she got to show that initial vulnerability, but after Drogo died most of the subtlety in her plotline died with him. Let's hope it comes back.

Carice Van Houten suffers from the same syndrome with Melisandre, but there's still plenty of time for the writers to expand on her character, and that scene a couple of episodes back showed it perfectly.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by WoozyFloozy

I'm positive that if they gave Emilia a chance, she could show some variety. Watching interviews, it's so weird how most of the actors have an understanding of the characters that is way more in line with the sources than the writers' understanding, despite a majority of the actors not reading the books. Emilia sees the uncertainty and fear in Dany, which is a HUGE part of her character in the novels but the writers totally gloss over in order to make Dany some one-note bad bitch who burns slave masters and speaks High Valyrian and Dothraki. Emilia has potential, the show just needs to give her the opportunity. Until then, I unfortunately agree that her performance is among the worst, but it's not her fault. She was amazing in season 1 because she got to show that initial vulnerability, but after Drogo died most of the subtlety in her plotline died with him. Let's hope it comes back.

Carice Van Houten suffers from the same syndrome, but there's still plenty of time for the writers to expand on her character.

There's so much vulnerability in Dany's character. Lol what have you been watching?

[WoozyFloozy]

Originally posted by rihannafan

There's so much vulnerability in Dany's character. Lol what have you been watching?

First, there's no need for the condescension, civilized conversation is possible every now and then. Could you give some examples? Again, I'm speaking from the perspective of a book-reader, where her self-doubt is a much larger part of her character. I've noticed it's been getting slowly better lately now that she's in Meereen - which is kind of a necessity considering the arc is all about testing her ability to rule - but even that is just slowly entering the fray and there was a LONG stretch of time where Dany never truly questioned if she was making the right decision. After Drogo died, the material she was given was mostly "give me what is mine by right, free the slaves, burn the masters, continue on to the next city." Compared to the books, where she is constantly repeating to herself "If I look back, I am lost" and wondering if she is turning into her father. It may have something to do with the fact that the show had to excise a major source of her paranoia from her season 2 arc. I'm not necessarily referring to the immediate past in this season, but it's a large reason why her acting has stagnated. The writing of her character just hasn't been subtle in a while, which is why I loved the Jorah scene. While she still maintained that "bad-bitch" face she does so well, it was obviously just a facade. If that's the vulnerability you were addressing, then fair point, and while it's promising, it's just one exception to the standard that was set from season 2 to early season 4.


Sorry if this sends someone on a tirade about book-readers' supposed superiority complex, just my perspective.

[theREALslimSHADY]

Originally posted by WoozyFloozy

Really not excited for the next episode, tbh. I don't think the writers have earned an entire episode focusing on just The Wall, there hasn't been enough build up. Maybe they'll fix that somewhat within the episode, though.



Are you confusing Quentyn with Trystane or have I forgotten the Trystane POVs?

nnnnnn;;; i WAS confusing Trystane with Quentyn!!! but WAIT.. why are they even casting Trystane.. just have some kid extra play his role of sitting on a chair in the background!! if they skip a sandsnake because of casting dat extra unnecessary martell!!!

Woozy fuking Floozy(love your name btw) i completely agree with you about episode 9!!! in season 2 the build up to the battle of blackwater was done very well.. but here they should have atleast shown the Men starting to build those ice-rock barrels, practicing Bow&Arrow or anything!!! i mean... they havent even gone on top of the wall even once this season!!! and the worst part is that they havent shown Mance even once!!! do people even remember what mance looks like?
the craster's keep plot looks so good in hindsight now because thats the only good thing that happened at/around the wall this season yet!

[theREALslimSHADY]

the conversations in this thread these days have been SO MUCH fun!!! shame i am in the middle of my exams and have to skip most of them! i have so much to comment tbh..
they end in a couple days right on time for the final two episodes!!

- I think Emilia has become too comfortable in her charachter.. feels like she isnt even trying. and the way Dany's charachter had fire and angst in the first two books.. now she just feels done. i mean has she even stepped outside of her castle yet? is this te kind of queen she wanted to be? why hasnt there been any new free slaves speeches since she came into meereen? her roaming among the meereen crowd, streets, markets, etc.
- why hasnt the dragon killed a human yet?
- why is Balon still alive?
- they carried out the entire Theon-Bolton arc so well this season.. i was really worried they were gonna mess it up!
- is Yara done for the season?
- the prospects for Sansa are so many and so great moving forward.. i can see her plot going anywhere!! but i think the little details revealed by GRRM till now have narrowed it down!
- Arya's plot has been one of the finest this season. considering how little they had to work with!! Bran should have been played out like her too.. there's way more scope for exciting travels beyond the wall!

[theREALslimSHADY]

ooh and i remembered.. do you think that they'll show stannis' entry like in the books.. the warged-eagle in the sky burts into flames as Stannis' army rides from the east.. along with Melissadre! mostly the eagle catching fire midflight!!?

[Matangi]

Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY

the conversations in this thread these days have been SO MUCH fun!!! shame i am in the middle of my exams and have to skip most of them! i have so much to comment tbh..
they end in a couple days right on time for the final two episodes!!

- I think Emilia has become too comfortable in her charachter.. feels like she isnt even trying. and the way Dany's charachter had fire and angst in the first two books.. now she just feels done. i mean has she even stepped outside of her castle yet? is this te kind of queen she wanted to be? why hasnt there been any new free slaves speeches since she came into meereen? her roaming among the meereen crowd, streets, markets, etc.

Its not her fault that she's only having a five minute appearance in one episode. Actually you could see how she rises as a queen this season but also what a long road she still has to go. Remember that scene in Meeren when she doubted herself on the balcony ? Or how convinced she was killing all the masters of the slaves but int the end she knew that it may wasn't the best decision when that one son came to her. You can really see how she's evolving.

[theREALslimSHADY]

Originally posted by Matangi

Its not her fault that she's only having a five minute appearance in one episode. Actually you could see how she rises as a queen this season but also what a long road she still has to go. Remember that scene in Meeren when she doubted herself on the balcony ? Or how convinced she was killing all the masters of the slaves but int the end she knew that it may wasn't the best decision when that one son came to her. You can really see how she's evolving.

well yeah you could spin those scenes like that.. but that sure isnt the best they could have done. The only reason she decided to stay here is because she dint want to be like the dothrakhi just destroying one city after another.. so they should atleast show that she cares about this city. or anything .. like literally there has barely been any charachter development for her this season.
again why i think that the Jorah scene should have been bigger than that. he was the only person left with her who was with her since the beginning. she trusted him blindly and when she finds out that he betrayed her so hard.. that was all she had to say or do about it? it was a bit underwhelming!

i hate being so critical of the show.. but when they do scenes like the Purple Wedding, Sansa's Escape on one hand, and those like Lysa's Death, Jorah's banishment on the other.. its kind of frustrating.

[Tena]

Will the next episode revolve around the wall only? I can't handle 50 minutes of Jon/Sam/Wildlings only

[Dark Miracles]

Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY

ooh and i remembered.. do you think that they'll show stannis' entry like in the books.. the warged-eagle in the sky burts into flames as Stannis' army rides from the east.. along with Melissadre! mostly the eagle catching fire midflight!!?

OMG I totally forgot about that but it would be awesome.

[Fruity]

Originally posted by Tena

Will the next episode revolve around the wall only? I can't handle 50 minutes of Jon/Sam/Wildlings only

I've heard other people say this. Where has this info come from? Sounds interesting.

I get the impression they have big things planned with the Jon scenes like including trolls and stuff. I saw somebody make a comment about the lack of dragons this season because they are saving the CGI budget for the last 2 episodes

[theREALslimSHADY]

Originally posted by Tena

Will the next episode revolve around the wall only? I can't handle 50 minutes of Jon/Sam/Wildlings only

looks like it.. but i dont think they can afford to spare an entire episode there.. or else episode 10 will be STUFFED!!!!!!!! specially Arya & Bran (and brienne unless they intend to show LSH this season and have Brienne meet her in the next one.. which i would personally prefer)

[CakeLike]

Omg this week is the 9th episode, I have a feeling its going to be huge, the 9th one is always a shocker Can't wait

[theREALslimSHADY]

also, in the Wikipedia article of GoT season 4 Osha and Rickon are mentioned in the cast "in the north".

can anyone think of any scenario where they might make an apearance in the remainder of the season?

[Smithy]

Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY

the conversations in this thread these days have been SO MUCH fun!!! shame i am in the middle of my exams and have to skip most of them! i have so much to comment tbh..
they end in a couple days right on time for the final two episodes!!

- I think Emilia has become too comfortable in her charachter.. feels like she isnt even trying. and the way Dany's charachter had fire and angst in the first two books.. now she just feels done. i mean has she even stepped outside of her castle yet? is this te kind of queen she wanted to be? why hasnt there been any new free slaves speeches since she came into meereen? her roaming among the meereen crowd, streets, markets, etc.
- why hasnt the dragon killed a human yet?
- why is Balon still alive?
- they carried out the entire Theon-Bolton arc so well this season.. i was really worried they were gonna mess it up!
- is Yara done for the season?
- the prospects for Sansa are so many and so great moving forward.. i can see her plot going anywhere!! but i think the little details revealed by GRRM till now have narrowed it down!
- Arya's plot has been one of the finest this season. considering how little they had to work with!! Bran should have been played out like her too.. there's way more scope for exciting travels beyond the wall!

I think Drogon will kill the child in episode 10, (or she'll be presented with his bones then, i doubt we'll see it kill the kid) and hopefully S5 will have a strong involvement of the whole greyjoy/kingsmoot story arc

[Eóghan Scherzy]

Originally posted by Tena

Will the next episode revolve around the wall only? I can't handle 50 minutes of Jon/Sam/Wildlings only

Yes and you have to deal.
They already paid it dust this season making it boring as hell when in the books it's extraordinary.