[AFullMoonlight]

Originally posted by SweetTalker

Why does it matter if she opened with 50k when they still sold the same amount of albums in the long run???????

I was trying to make a point which you obviously took the wrong way and don't understand. Carry on!

[StarsAllAligned]

Originally posted by AFullMoonlight

Let me break this down to you selrats for the one time.

Kiss N Tell sold that amount in the time span of 8 years.

ME sold around the same amount in A year.

ACTUALLY it only took Kiss & Tell a bit over 3 years to sell 900k in the U.S., I don't know where you're getting those extra 5 years and I'm not going to discuss WW sales bc there's no accurate source for them. Anyways Kiss & Tell had barely any promo, a flopped 1st single, it's 2nd single was only a top 30 hit AND her only WW promo was like 3 European countries & Mexico. My Everything era was literally promoted everywhere, the singles (which were nearly all top 5 and huge) were performed on every talk show/ award show possible, massive radio deals and it only barely scraped 700k if that.

And y'all say how can they compare an album from 2009 vs 2014 while y'all continue to compare singles from 2013/early 2014 to middle to late 2015 after the huge sales decline

[SweetTalker]

Originally posted by AFullMoonlight

I was trying to make a point which you obviously took the wrong way and don't understand. Carry on!

What point? That she sells the same amount of albums as her featured artists despite being bigger? Hmm gotcha.

[Caesar]

Originally posted by MonsterNavy

I mean, duh

Iggy Azalea, Big Sean, Ariana Grande & Max Martin in 1 track

That's just insane

Did anyone know Big Sean & Max Martin even worked on the track?
Does anyone go, omg i'm going to buy the song because Big Sean did the background vocals
and Max Martin produced it!
Does anyone really buy a song because a 30 second feature?
Bye girl

[Kkamjong]

Originally posted by Caesar

Not really, they had their major success AFTER collaborating with Ariana

Originally posted by JC_Arrow

Are the one who lacks logic? Mezter didn't say that. Reading is a must.

Why are you so fixated on Problem and Fancy? Problem's stats are more impressive than Fancy's. Well, you already probably knew that since you're such a stan!

[AFullMoonlight]

I'm tired of arguing with the deaf and useless. Y'all be on the lookout for DW when it drops May 20th.

[allisxn]

Being serious, I don't have anything against Ariana, I used to stan her back in 2013 but I still laugh at how brave their stans got after the ME era, yes it was big (not in album sales tho) but they act like she's a main pop girl now

[mosspillows]

Originally posted by jose168

Girl focus is literally a copy and paste no one expected good for you from selena, shes never done minimalistic rnb/pop

First of all, nothing about Selena's music is R&B. I was saying tt still sounded like a Selena Gomez song, and that's a good thing. You can't say the same about Ariana's disjointed sound and image. They're both mediocre so it won't matter in 5 years anyway

[Baby Boy]

Originally posted by ryanpittman97

No DW/Focus are way more innovative and risker than GFY so it's not surprising. However it is surprising to see that so many people care enough to make thread after thread about it

Crying 'cause Focus is just a rehash of Ariana's biggest hit.

[Jonathan]

yawn. aren't y'all bored.
being reductive for now 16 pages
go to sleep, see you tomorrow

[AFullMoonlight]

Originally posted by SweetTalker

What point? That she sells the same amount of albums as her featured artists despite being bigger? Hmm gotcha.

No that Ari didn't need her to sell ME or Problem. Like damn...

[Mars!]

Originally posted by allisxn

Being serious, I don't have anything against Ariana, I used to stan her back in 2013 but I still laugh at how brave their stans got after the ME era, yes it was big (not in album sales tho) but they act like she's a main pop girl now

And Selena stans don't do this?

[Fentydelspears]

Those Selena stans need to get your brain washed if you still get paranoid of Selena is bigger than Ariana.

HOW? EVEN IN THE US OR WW, ARIANA HAS STILL PEAKED HIGHER THAN SELENA.

Top 10 hits: Ariana 6, Selena 5
Problem's outpeaked all of Selena's singles on radio airplay, outsold every single by Selena and yet the video has almost creepped to 800M on VEVO/Youtube.

Selena's highest viewed video couldn't get half a billion views, Focus is coming for that 4th 500M+ views.

My Everything has outsold most of Selena's albums after one and a half year.

Ariana has 2 Grammy nominations, Selena has none.

S.T.O.P being paranoid.

[Rami328]

Originally posted by ryanpittman97

No DW/Focus are way more innovative and risker than GFY so it's not surprising. However it is surprising to see that so many people care enough to make thread after thread about it

Straight up lies

[allisxn]

Originally posted by StarsAllAligned

ACTUALLY it only took Kiss & Tell a bit over 3 years to sell 900k in the U.S., I don't know where you're getting those extra 5 years and I'm not going to discuss WW sales bc there's no accurate source for them. Anyways Kiss & Tell had barely any promo, a flopped 1st single, it's 2nd single was only a top 30 hit AND her only WW promo was like 3 European countries & Mexico. My Everything era was literally promoted everywhere, the singles (which were nearly all top 5 and huge) were performed on every talk show/ award show possible, massive radio deals and it only barely scraped 700k if that.

And y'all say how can they compare an album from 2009 vs 2014 while y'all continue to compare singles from 2013/early 2014 to middle to late 2015 after the huge sales decline

Educate them sis

[Mezter]

Originally posted by Kkamjong

Caesar is not me Like the good sis said, reading is a must!

[Caesar]

You guys are using the same STALE arguments from a year ago+
Go eat a donut fats

[MonsterNavy]

Originally posted by allisxn

Being serious, I don't have anything against Ariana, I used to stan her back in 2013 but I still laugh at how brave their stans got after the ME era, yes it was big (not in album sales tho) but they act like she's a main pop girl now

Same. I love Ariana then and I love Ariana even more now (Check my thread stats, I was the first one to make an Ariana thread, The Way, here on ATRL back in 2013)


But these Ariana stans are just so cocky and always discrediting Selena so of course I have to defend the Mexican Madonna

I love Focus, DW & Be Alright so much btw

Dont be mad at me. I love Ari just as much as I love Sel but yall Arianators need to stop dragging Sel

[Tristan]

Originally posted by allisxn

She went from 400k to 100k with another Max Martin track but solo, Iggy, Sean, their power

Are you really comparing 2014 sales to 2016's? Do you live under a rock? Sales have been rapidly declining. Since you're so up about stats I thought that you were smart enough to know that. Just so you know, Selena would only ever dream of debuting with 400k.

[allisxn]

Originally posted by Mars!

And Selena stans don't do this?

Not me, at least.