[Lights and Waves]

Did she lie though?

[Venus]

Originally posted by DG1

Countdown samples Boyz II Men "Uhh Ahh." So again everyone credited on the Boyz II Men song was credited on "Countdown." And people say she doesn't give credit.

BTINH has 2 versions, and Bey and Babyface changed the original to what was released, so again everyone from the original was credited along with everyone who made an update to the song.

You legally have to give songwriting credits when you sample a song.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

I mean FIVE completely separate people in the music industry say the same thing about Beyonce, plus the Oscars thing (her coincidentally having been the one with the least amount of input into the song), plus all the other demos that have appeared online that are virtually identical to the final versions where she inexplicably has a writing credit and.....people still doubt it?

"People" don't doubt it at all. Tons of logical human beings have provided facts and the hive is refusing to acknowledge the theft that seems to occur every time she releases new music as evidenced by all for these unchanged demos floating around and first-hand accounts from several songwriters who HAVE worked with her before.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Chimier

Bangladesh didn't say she wasn't a writer there.

Beyonce isn't listed as a songwriter on If I Were a Boy, even if she owns publishing for it.

Where did Rob Fusari say she DIDN'T write Bootylicious, though? He's saying there that he was the one who came up with the idea to use the Stevie Nicks sample. Not the same thing.

Frank Ocean hadn't worked with Beyonce when he tweeted that.

Bangladesh heavily, heavily, heavily implied she wasn't a writer and got things handed to her that she then put her name on. You'd have to be completely delusional not to get that from his statement, c'mon.

Beyonce isn't listed as a songwriter because BC Jean threatened to sue her, Beyonce came to a settlement with her where they would duet to help BC's career (which never happened).

That quote proves two things: 1) she lied about coming up with the idea, 2) her father is extremely calculating and was focused on making her seem like more than she was, particularly in the songwriting department. Those two things absolutely add evidence to the claim that she does not write her own songs at all, and just changes very minor things and claims publishing.

Frank Ocean had not worked with her but he was actively involved in the music industry and I'm sure knew producers who had worked with her.

[NEUTRON]

15 pages?

[Superpower]

Originally posted by Summer

The Hive responses in here.

Saying that melody and harmonies and a couple of runs and riffs are enough to get writing credit.

It is enough and these are essential parts of any song. All the songwriters, critics and the ASCAP agree.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by Summer

The Hive responses in here.

Saying that melody and harmonies and a couple of runs and riffs are enough to get writing credit.

[Johnny Cash]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

I mean FIVE completely separate people in the music industry say the same thing about Beyonce, plus the Oscars thing (her coincidentally having been the one with the least amount of input into the song), plus all the other demos that have appeared online that are virtually identical to the final versions where she inexplicably has a writing credit and.....people still doubt it?

LOL Exactly, like what other proof do they need?

They keep bringing that songwriter of the year award which is for songs she wrote with 4 or 5 other people, and she's the one who got the awards because she's the singer in those songs

They keep bringing the melody and vocal arrangement subjects to it but refuse to admit that Beyonce can't actually write LYRICS!!!

[Summer]

Halo, Irreplaceable, and Smack Into You. The demos are literally identical to the final versions.

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by Summer

The Hive responses in here.

Saying that melody and harmonies and a couple of runs and riffs are enough to get writing credit.

Songwriting/Songwriters

"Professional songwriters can either be employed to write either the lyrics or the melody "

You were saying?

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Venus

You legally have to give songwriting credits when you sample a song.

And nobody says she doesn't give credit They say she takes credit that she doesn't deserve.

[Superpower]

Originally posted by Venus

You legally have to give songwriting credits when you sample a song.

And your point is?
Everyone who has worked with Beyoncé has gotten songwriting credits.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by PULSE.

Songwriting/Songwriters

"Professional songwriters can either be employed to write either the lyrics or the melody "

You were saying?

What melody did she write on "Smash Into You"? The melody is literally the same as the demo sung by the original artist. Same with "Irreplaceable", "Halo", etc.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

And nobody says she doesn't give credit They say she takes credit that she doesn't deserve.

Some people need to actually read before they comment.

[PULSE.]

Originally posted by Summer

Halo, Irreplaceable, and Smack Into You. The demos are literally identical to the final versions.

But the people who ACTUALLY wrote the songs say Beyonce's is different from theirs

[Summer]

Originally posted by PULSE.

Songwriting/Songwriters

"Professional songwriters can either be employed to write either the lyrics or the melody "

You were saying?

You must be deaf to not here that the melody is literally the same as the demo.

[paulyyyozd]

The Hive just CAN'T accept the truth

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by Summer

The Hive responses in here.

Saying that melody and harmonies and a couple of runs and riffs are enough to get writing credit.

That's based on what we know of the legal definition of songwriting.

[Superpower]

Originally posted by Summer

Halo, Irreplaceable, and Smack Into You. The demos are literally identical to the final versions.

Sis you are late to the party. Click that Prev button and read what we already said about this. That is if you want real information instead of gossips.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by PULSE.

Songwriting/Songwriters

"Professional songwriters can either be employed to write either the lyrics or the melody "

You were saying?

I think we all can agree that actual words and lyrics are the most important part of a SONG. You would have nothing to build a melody around otherwise.