[ClashAndBurn]

Originally posted by Roberto

The Fame Monster...
Bad Romance, Telephone, Just Dance, Poker Face, Paparazzi, Alejandro success>>>>>>>

I mean, nobody remember Teenage Dream (song). It was so forgettable, like E.T. Firework was the only big hit of TD era.

California Gurls was a huge summer hit virtually everywhere, including a number one debut with a ten-week stay in Canada.

[Clump]

Originally posted by Allthatisholy

TFM easily since the combined album sales totaled 14 million.
TD 5-6 milion?

4.5

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by Entalan

Achieving anything respectable isn't important when you're a plastic bag.

[hairofglory]

Clearly the Fame Monster.

All Teenage Dream has to boast is the number one singles, most of which are forgettable. TFM beats it in all other aspects.

[Graduation]

Originally posted by hairofglory

Clearly the Fame Monster.

All Teenage Dream has to boast is the number one singles, most of which are forgettable. TFM beats it in all other aspects.

Also the fact that it's still selling, 2 years after the fact, while TF/TFM/BTW are no where to be seen on the charts now. Longevity speaks for itself.

[PopBoi]

ET and Teenage Dream are both brilliant, but thats it. The Fame Monster.

[EmaciatedHooker]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Well to be fair the CDT was about half as long as TMB. Katy had the attendance. She just priced her tickets really low.

Gaga's shows in 2011 alone practically outgrossed Katy's entire world tour and she was on her last leg and finishing the tour up.

Low ticket prices = low demand.

Originally posted by DejaVu

I'm not sure who you're referring too

You're seriously going to sit there and act like The Fame Monster didn't change the way people view pop music? That The Fame Monster and its theatricality didn't bring back what MJ started? Katy's entire image since TFM has been revolved around doing a watered down version of what Gaga has already done.

And honestly, I'm not even trying to shade 'cause I like Katy and all, but it's BS when people try to belittle the massive worldwide impact The Fame Monster had on pop culture.

Originally posted by GRADUAT10N

Also the fact that it's still selling, 2 years after the fact, while TF/TFM/BTW are no where to be seen on the charts now. Longevity speaks for itself.

It's still selling, yet it's struggling to outsell them? Longevity is only impressive if you're actually pulling in decent numbers. The Fame Monster only needed three singles to sell over 5m+ WW.

[Entalan]

Originally posted by GRADUAT10N

Also the fact that it's still selling, 2 years after the fact, while TF/TFM/BTW are no where to be seen on the charts now. Longevity speaks for itself.

The Fame only dropped out of the top 200 a few weeks ago. Lemme know if TD is still there in a year and a half and then we'll talk.

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by Andre

Ok let's do some math. If she raised the average ticket by just $10 or $20 that's hardly a significant increase that would affect attendance.

Yet at the same time it would greatly increase the overall gross.

Originally posted by GRADUAT10N

How dare she lower the price of her concert tickets during a recession! Ugh, what nerve...

[EmaciatedHooker]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Ok let's do some math. If she raised the average ticket by just $10 or $20 that's hardly a significant increase that would affect attendance.

Yet at the same time it would greatly increase the overall gross.

Artists don't dictate tour ticket costs. They're dictated by demand and venue size. Katy played at smaller venues or scaled down larger venues because she couldn't fill them since there wasn't enough demand. If there was a larger demand, she would have played larger venues and the tickets would have cost more.

This is common sense.

[hairofglory]

Originally posted by GRADUAT10N

Also the fact that it's still selling, 2 years after the fact, while TF/TFM/BTW are no where to be seen on the charts now. Longevity speaks for itself.

Yeah because she keeps releasing singles from it.

That's great that it's still selling though. It'll take some time to catch up to TF/TFM's sales.

[Graduation]

Originally posted by Entalan

The Fame only dropped out of the top 200 a few weeks ago. Lemme know if TD is still there in a year and a half and then we'll talk.

Aren't we talking about The Fame Monster, though? And if that's the case, we should wait until the TD re-release happens for us to settle this debate, right?

[Hooligan]

The era itself, Teenage Dream.

[Ale]

The one with actual GLOBAL hits.

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker

Gaga's shows in 2011 alone practically outgrossed Katy's entire world tour and she was on her last leg and finishing the tour up.

Low ticket prices = low demand.

Not necessarily. She had plenty of sold out dates. That's hardly "low demand"

[Entalan]

Originally posted by GRADUAT10N

Aren't we talking about The Fame Monster, though? And if that's the case, we should wait until the TD re-release happens for us to settle this debate, right?

No... you said TF/TFM/BTW, not specifically TFM. But you do have a point, I didn't consider the re-release.

We'll see.

[MP2K]

If this aint the largest poll results.

[EmaciatedHooker]

Originally posted by Ramcoro

Not necessarily. She had plenty of sold out dates. That's hardly "low demand"

No, she scaled venues down. Gaga was selling out complete arenas while Katy was cutting the arenas in half in order to "sell them out".

[Konichiwa]

The Fame Monster

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker

Artists don't dictate tour ticket costs. They're dictated by demand and venue size. Katy played at smaller venues or scaled down larger venues because she couldn't fill them since there wasn't enough demand. If there was a larger demand, she would have played larger venues and the tickets would have cost more.

This is common sense.

You keel reiterating this myth that Katy had low demand. She had over a million people in attendance. How the **** is that low?

How many people attended th TMB?

Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker

No, she scaled venues down. Gaga was selling out complete arenas while Katy was cutting the arenas in half in order to "sell them out".

reciepts.

Originally posted by Ale

The one with actual GLOBAL hits.

Firework and California Gurls were HUGE WW. Teenage and ET were big hits too. Last Friday Night was a mediocre hit, but it was a 5th single after all. TOTGA, yea that was pretty local. Part Of Me is shaping out to be big WW.