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News: Baltimore Riots: Discrepancy Over Shooting; Tensions Back
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Anderson is so ugly and ew
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
That is not the issue here. The city is being destroyed, burning up resources that could be used to build a better city. The areas affected were in a constant struggle as is, and this has made the lives of so many who already have a difficult life even harder. To believe this only has physical, tangible side-effects is completely unrealistic.
All I am seeing is more black youths throwing away their lives. This isn't just the destruction of a physical city, but the destruction of a community, some of which were fighting for injustice and seeking answers, as well. I hope this encourages elder black people to really get through these younger children and send them on the right path. I do love that some people of Baltimore are helping to clean the city.
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But not the pigs taking their lives away, right? That is the issue here.
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Originally posted by konaa
But not the pigs taking their lives away, right? That is the issue here.
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No it's not. They are both issues. But as far as I can tell no rioters and looters have been killed by police. *sips coffee*
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Today its been very peaceful
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Originally posted by jinzo
You improve these communities through investment and gentrification. How are you meant to attract either when you're seen as some destitute crime-pit where people set their own facilities on fire and then destroy the fire trucks trying to help?
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Tf? Don't use big words you don't understand Jinzo . If their neighborhoods were gentrified, they could no longer be a part of it to experience the benefits. Gentrification always displaces poorer/black residents.
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Originally posted by konaa
But not the pigs taking their lives away, right? That is the issue here.
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Mess. They are both issues here. If you read carefully you'd notice how I do not want more black lives to go to waste whether it is by the cops or at the hands of themselves. Your view point is black and white. Just because I do not support rioting and want to see black America thrive doesn't mean I find Freedie's death justifiable. Or you could, I don't know, look into his family's response - since you care so much - and see how disappointed they are to witness how the burial of their son turn into a riot. You are not seeing the bigger picture here, at all.
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Originally posted by YouDaIcon
I am having an intelligent conversation with you. You have to be able to recognize the reality some people in Baltimore are living. Baltimore literally has over 16,000 vacant homes. Why would you care about "property" if there are literally thousands of abandoned houses in your neighborhood looking like this.......
I mean I get what you're saying. But thats probably because you probably live in a nice community. We're talking about one of the most improvised cities in America with a 33% GRADUATION rate at some schools. And you want them to protest peacefully and not destroy anything? Its obvious these people have had enough. The last thing they need are policing literally breaking their spines and killing them with impunity. Rioting isn't Protesting? Well brutality ain't policing.
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Mess. They are both issues here. If you read carefully you'd notice how I do not want more black lives to go to waste whether it is by the cops or at the hands of themselves. Your view point is black and white. Just because I do not support rioting and want to see black America thrive doesn't mean I find Freedie's death justifiable. Or you could, I don't know, look into his family's response - since you care so much - and see how disappointed they are to witness how the burial of their son turn into a riot. You are not seeing the bigger picture here, at all.
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I dont think you've grasped the significance of MLKs quote. Black people have exhausted all means to reason with these people get the white establishment continues to treat them like trash. The cops crossed the line and it was the straw that broke the horses back, rioting is pretty much their last tactic to be heard. And actually, it has worked so far. Although the attention may have diverted from Freddie Gray to the riots, in the long run peole are going to want a solution to qwell the hostile environmment. And a response is what the black community want. We seem to be forgetting that the Birmingham riots was critical in the civil rights era and prompted desegregation/anti-discrimination legislation.
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Originally posted by Javan
I dont think you've grasped the significance of MLKs quote. Black people have exhausted all means to reason with these people get the white establishment continues to treat them like trash. The cops crossed the line and it was the straw that broke the horses back, rioting is pretty much their last tactic to be heard. And actually, it has worked so far. Although the attention may have diverted from Freddie Gray to the riots, in the long run peole are going to want a solution to qwell the hostile environmment. And a response is what the black community want. We seem to be forgetting that the Birmingham riots was critical in the civil rights era and prompted desegregation/anti-discrimination legislation.
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Not you acting like all this looting and riots is some kind of organized tactic. Don't kid yourself.
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Originally posted by jinzo
You improve these communities through investment and gentrification. How are you meant to attract either when you're seen as some destitute crime-pit where people set their own facilities on fire and then destroy the fire trucks trying to help?
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Wrong choice of words? All that does is displace the poor and working-class families. They won't see the improvements when they asses get evicted and their homes are rebuilt for some well off people.
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Originally posted by konaa
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They're just trying to survive from all the looting of the blacks.
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Reminds me of the London Riots in 2011.
I have just one question: These people photographed, will they be arrested and charged like the 2,000 in the UK were?
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Originally posted by Goosey
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Oh wow, times must be hard for the people of Baltimore to steal toilet roll.
It doesn't make much sense seeing as they're destroying their own homes, shops, etc which was paid for by themselves.
Tax increase for 2016 to pay for the damages, yay.
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Originally posted by Javan
I dont think you've grasped the significance of MLKs quote. Black people have exhausted all means to reason with these people get the white establishment continues to treat them like trash. The cops crossed the line and it was the straw that broke the horses back, rioting is pretty much their last tactic to be heard. And actually, it has worked so far. Although the attention may have diverted from Freddie Gray to the riots, in the long run peole are going to want a solution to qwell the hostile environmment. And a response is what the black community want. We seem to be forgetting that the Birmingham riots was critical in the civil rights era and prompted desegregation/anti-discrimination legislation.
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I never referenced MLK, but while we're here I will say that we live in a different era. Not one without racism, but one where our means of reaching out has changed drastically. There are wonderful people in Baltimore petitioning/protesting for change - demanding answers from the cops while using the resources they have. These people have taken off work and changed their lives to make way for change. The black community does not want the same thing these rioters/looters want. The black community wants justice, to put an end to racism, and to strengthen the understanding between the 'us' and the 'them' so that black people stopped getting killed. Many black mothers are so afraid their sons are going to get killed, but watching your black son throw his life away is also depressing - which is why I applaud that mom for gathering her son. That is what I meant by my last post. It is all around just sad.
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Originally posted by Goosey
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I don't see what's wrong with taking items like tissues, milk, water, diapers, etc. when the city is a dump and you're running out or could possibly run out of these things because everything is destroyed.
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Lol what a joke. Thug mentality at its finest again. Thugs trying to justify the death of a thug. Black lives matter; any life matters actually. But these are thugs trashing and thrashing their own city. This is just sad. After they destroy their city, do you think people would like to live there anymore? This will translate in loss of investments, increased unemployment, and more thugs running down the town.
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Originally posted by MP2K
I don't see what's wrong with taking items like tissues, milk, water, diapers, etc. when the city is a dump and you're running out or could possibly run out of these things because everything is destroyed.
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What happens when they run out again though? It's not like Obama is going to say 'oh look, the people of Baltimore have burned their own city to the ground, let's spend billions to rebuild it.' They're making progress a lot harder, not better..
The city was a dump before the riots and now it's an even bigger dump. Internationally known as such, as well.
I realise times must be hard for these people and it must be very frustrating, but this isn't the way to go about it.
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Originally posted by jinzo
You improve these communities through investment and gentrification. How are you meant to attract either when you're seen as some destitute crime-pit where people set their own facilities on fire and then destroy the fire trucks trying to help?
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